# Here's what's coming - any tips?

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**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 22, 2007, 3:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164 "2007-02-22T15:42:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![vkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vkat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vkat)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 3:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/1 "2007-02-22T15:42:04Z")

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My orders have been a little backed up plus I ordered some stuff wrong, but Jasmin has me all straightened out. Of course what happens is that you get the inspiration to get this stuff and then later are not sure what you were thinking. I’m glad it’s on the way because my stash is depleted and it’s led me to try experiments with what I have left (mostly cops of one kind or another, Cleo and Scent of Eros) that I’m even ashamed to admit to- although nothing unpleasant has happened. In fact, I have quit wearing Instant Openness because I can’t have more people standing around my desk than already are.  
What do I want? Well, I want it all. Things have really changed for me at work and I want that to continue. I am not dating anyone and I would like to. So I want to work harder on attraction, and taking that to next level too, I am tired of torturing people at work because that’s my only venue - it always has to be so carefully tempered and softened with other pheros, behavior and dress. I want a man to play with so I can take the gloves off. Hopefully a man who can take a few scratches 🙂 I really have to be careful because I have playfully touched or smacked or whatever some of these guys around me and I seem to be doing it a lot harder than I meant to. Too much energy. They always like it, though, and I apologize profusely.  
Anyway, what’s coming is:  
A314 mutant white cap  
P79 10 mcg/spray  
[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)/w to-go  
TAL 10 mcg/spray  
More MX134 (I need a bigger bottle, puhleeeze…this is a keeper)  
TAF 10 mcg/spray  
MX207-215  
MX136-140  
Pre-release Dirty (forgot the 5x cops, dang it)  
Instant Sexiness…it was my intention to order B, but I don’t see it carrying over into the comments and may have bungled that somehow. I’ll have to see what I get, it’s all good.  
I still have:  
Instant Honesty, reg. strength  
Instant Openness series  
TAH, 10 mcg/spray (I have used high doses of this and just not sure what I’m getting.)  
All kinds of cops - Lust after me, Pherone W-9, EOW (thanks Ail for the tip on not mixing EOW and Lust After Me, I probably would have tried that…any other cops that don’t go well together here?)  
Scent of Eros  
Edge/w Gel Packs  
Edge for women spray  
Cleo

Obviously some of this is limited in it’s usefulness as long as I am mostly being around co-workers or people tied to my job in some way. Unfortunately, even my social life seems to be springing from that for now. But I want to be prepared if I get a chance to expand my little world.  
Gosh, when you list all this stuff…it’s kind of embarassing, especially for a single mother that is desperately struggling…BUT…I should point out that the intention was always an investment in a better life AND I am now making almost twice the amount of money I was, SINCE I started wearing pheros, and after YEARS of nothing budging. So I like to think all sorts of other things are possible too.  
I sort of wish I’d ordered more MX102. I have noted a strange effect with that that I am now certain of. A few minutes after I spray it, I get a heart-pounding caffeine like rush. I always think, “what did I drink, a triple espresso” and then remember I haven’t had ANY coffee. It is definitely the MX102. The rush does subside in 20-30 minutes.  
I think Jas can tell you from our last conversation that I am becoming increasingly sassy and demanding. So this should be interesting, and I might want to take care to soften things, although of course I should try this all out.  
My job also requires extreme mental focus, on demand.  
So that’s what the P79 and TAF (I think that’s why I ordered TAF-see, I need focus) are there for…anybody used those together?

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/2 "2007-02-22T16:51:20Z")

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well i don’t know - it looks like life in general has been taking a turn for the better. I have no clue on the effects of your soon to be stash - other than the A314, and you’ve seen my experiences.

I have to ask - what were your thoughts on cleo? And how’d you like Scent of Eros?

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**Author:** ![alseides](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alseides/32/1039_2.png) [@alseides](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alseides)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/3 "2007-02-22T21:54:32Z")

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I agree - definitely looks like you’re living the good life, VKat! 🙂 Congratulations.

That’s a huge arsenal you’ve developed there. I must say [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) is one of my favorites, and I too have the regular strength, but a couple sprays to the hair and back of neck usually do the trick - makes for an intimate atmosphere, a “best friend” sort of feeling. I would pair it with something lighter if you’re wearing it in a work setting though. Do you have any Shine around?

You’re not alone in not knowing what exactly you were getting with TAH. I had a 2.5mcg bottle that I’m returning because of this confusion. I also have a 10mcg bottle due here tomorrow though! Let me know what results you get with it!

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**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/4 "2007-02-22T22:34:34Z")

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> I would pair it with something lighter if you’re wearing it in a work setting though

Is there any specific reason or experience you had that makes you say this? I’ve never worn IH to work, so I wouldn’t know.

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**Author:** ![alseides](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alseides/32/1039_2.png) [@alseides](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alseides)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/5 "2007-02-22T22:45:00Z")

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> [@LaurieNY](#):
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> Is there any specific reason or experience you had that makes you say this? I’ve never worn Instant Honesty to work, so I wouldn’t know.

Indeed there is. IH lends an intimate vibe to situations where I’ve worn it, and like it says on the bottle, “you won’t believe your ears”. All sorts of things can come out, and not all of them are necessarily pleasant. Sometimes conversations will shift over to a more serious side. One time in particular, my cousin ended up crying on my shoulder, and she is not one given to crying. That’s why I suggest pairing it with something else.

I personally don’t respond to [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), but others around me do, which is why I mentioned that. I would suggest TAA, as it’s a component of IS, but I have never tried that out. I usually pair IH with one of the Liquid Sunshine mixes to ensure that I get positive results.

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**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/6 "2007-02-22T22:54:14Z")

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Fabulous information; thank you! Rep point to you!

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**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2007, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/7 "2007-02-22T23:42:50Z")

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I say take a 30 ml bottle and fill it half with all of the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) and putatives you have on your list. (perhaps 2 drops each) and fill the rest with your cologne of choice. Shake that up really good. Once it settles spray on at least 3 sprays and cover with more cologne of your choice and see what happens. Of course I’d wait for about 20 minutes after applying to go out. See my Love Potion#13 or Witches Brew mixes. You can do alot with all those products. Have some fun.

I still use them both to a more or lesser degree and get awesome results.😉

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**Author:** ![vkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vkat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vkat)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 2:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/8 "2007-02-24T02:25:29Z")

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Thank you Countess, you are one of my biggest phero-heroines so I will look up those brews again. I remember reading them way back when I was first looking into this. Your posts really captured my imagination.  
Alesaides, I am wearing Instant Honesty pretty regularly now, but I find it a bit of a two-edged sword myself. I can’t wear it when I am depressed. I try to keep it where it will get to others more than me and that seems OK. But I don’t necessarily notice that big of a difference since people have always seemed inclined to spill it all to me. I always wondered about that but now that I know there is a phero that encourages that, I think it must be a big part of my natural signature. It’s also true that it is safe to do with me, wonder if that is what the phero is, something that signals people that it would be OK to be candid with you?  
Same thing with [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). It’s good for opening me up, though, as I noted in an earlier thread. Sometimes that has real value. Particularly during PMS when I want to obsess and feel paranoid. Anyway, I may start saving those for special circumstances and not daily use.  
Nunya, I don’t know what I think about Cleo and Scent of Eros. It is really hard when you don’t have a romantic partner to try it out on, or a larger social circle where your behavior is not so constrained. Although mine has suddenly grown hugely, most of these people are somehow connected to work and so there is always a bit of necessary reticence on my part.  
I do know that both Cleo and SOE - particularly Cleo - make me feel very sexually inclined. Don’t know what it’s doing for anyone else.  
I have worn both this week and I do notice that men seemed to make little excuses to be around me more. Hardly anyone walks by without stopping to chat. They ask for my help, etc. Now this is work so it is all friendly and aboveboard, and I would not say there is anything I would call extraordinary or sexual about any of the individual instances - only that when I think about it, the frequency is about, oh, 10x what it used to be. They seem more inclined to touch me, too, in light socially acceptable ways. Like normal interactions only way more of them.  
I am just sliding past ovulation and I have been feeling very dominant, though. A bit too much so. I am not very patient and while I never was, I used to be able to hide it better. Now I can hardly keep my foot from tapping.  
I have unhappily had a couple of situations this week where respect vs. being liked got put to the test. I don’t think it should be a choice, but sometimes others do. I chose respect, every time. Even with a guy that I am really attracted to. Blew that one forever, I guess, but who needs somebody you always have to suck up to? (And not in a good way). I even chose it knowing that it can cut me off from some things that I need. However, I will not be emotionally blackmailed. I’ll find another door to kick open if these close.  
Maybe they’ll like me again someday. I certainly hope so. I can’t say it doesn’t make my heart sink, but in the past I would have suffered so much more. Now I know there is no consequence worse than how I feel when I do what I don’t feel I should, just so someone won’t be angry with me and thus motivated to punish me somehow. I like people all the time that don’t agree with me, or like them despite conflict. If they can’t do the same for me, they can hit the road I guess. That type of affection is too heavy for me to bear.  
I sprayed quite a bit of TAH on today, 5 of the 10 mcg and it did nothing to soften me up. I was talking to a superior today who said “I think I want to stay on your side.” Yet people (mostly) seem to enjoy me too. The biggest problem seems to be people I had relationships established with earlier. I guess I’m renegotiating our social contract and that is rarely comfortable.  
Unfortunately, my orders will be a little longer - my est delivery date was today but has been extended to the 27th - so I won’t have it to play at a party I am going to tomorrow night, and another on Sunday. (Remember when I never went anywhere?) But it is definitely on its way, hooray. Right now I am most looking for the focusing pheros as I have an enormous workload personally and professionally and the only way I am going to make it is if I can focus intensely.

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 7:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/9 "2007-02-24T07:14:20Z")

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yeah screw whoever tried emotional blackmail. you know what? if he’s worth a damn, he’ll respect you for not allowing you to manipulate him. If he can’t handle it, you don’t need to deal with him anyways. Interesting that cleo makes you feel sexually inclined. It just makes me really upbeat and confident and witty. post-ovulation. hehe.

so what are you planning for your party mix?

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**Author:** ![vkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vkat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vkat)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/10 "2007-02-24T14:42:01Z")

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> [@Nunya](#):
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> yeah screw whoever tried emotional blackmail. you know what? if he’s worth a damn, he’ll respect you for not allowing you to manipulate him. If he can’t handle it, you don’t need to deal with him anyways. Interesting that cleo makes you feel sexually inclined. It just makes me really upbeat and confident and witty. post-ovulation. hehe.
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> so what are you planning for your party mix?

Well, I see I screwed up by trying to abbreviate estimated, which turned it into a phero (one I’m not getting). So none of this stuff will be here in time for that.  
I don’t know what to wear tonight. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) could be overwhelming with these people. And it is again, somewhat work-related, in that these are people from work (but many I am just getting to know socially) or they were from work or they are connected to someone from work.  
I am playing with the idea of taking MX135 out for a cautious ride, maybe one spray to the back of the neck or Jasmin’s devil horns thing. But that introduces the chocolatini scent and I don’t know if I’m in the mood for that. Maybe some Instant Honesty, to temper the alcohol and my own chattiness. I don’t want to run my mouth - I’d rather listen, I think. I’ve been pretty open and honest and chatty and copulined lately…I am probably going to wear Tabac Blond as my cover scent or Femme. So I seem to be wanting to go somewhere smoky and reserved and slightly taboo, yet friendly enough. A Mona Lisa mix…  
Hmmmm…

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 3:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/11 "2007-02-24T15:00:45Z")

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chocolate goes with smoky and reserved. think pipe tobacco. hee hee.

How about this - that cleo you have? Put a drop of that in your hair - so that it won’t affect you as much, but will make others chatty - layer with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), and then some to your chest as well, with the MX135.

oh wait - i forgot about the chocolatini vs. neroli thing. I had that problem last night too, but i figuered if I just sprayed the Instant Honesty in my hair and let it die down all the way, it would jsut leave a note like some hair product and not exactly a scent, when i put the pink sugar on.

Maybe use the cleo (is it the a or b version?) in your hair, MX135 on your neck and chest, and maybe a dab or IH under your nose, so that it doesn’t mix scents, but you still get the Beta Androstenol affect?

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**Author:** ![alseides](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alseides/32/1039_2.png) [@alseides](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alseides)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/12 "2007-02-24T18:29:04Z")

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> [@Nunya](#):
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> How about this - that cleo you have? Put a drop of that in your hair - so that it won’t affect you as much, but will make others chatty - layer with Instant Honesty, and then some to your chest as well, with the MX135.
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> oh wait - i forgot about the chocolatini vs. neroli thing. I had that problem last night too, but i figuered if I just sprayed the Instant Honesty in my hair and let it die down all the way, it would jsut leave a note like some hair product and not exactly a scent, when i put the pink sugar on.
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> Maybe use the cleo (is it the a or b version?) in your hair, MX135 on your neck and chest, and maybe a dab or Instant Honesty under your nose, so that it doesn’t mix scents, but you still get the Beta Androstenol affect?

I am in favor of this method. I don’t have any Cleo myself, but I’ve used MX135 with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) many a time, and nothing negative came from it. Probably my favorite combo, actually. 🙂

None of my 'mones are scented, though, so I can’t comment on that.

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**Author:** ![vkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vkat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vkat)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/13 "2007-02-25T02:34:36Z")

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Well, I’m all 'moned up and no place to go. Terrible ice storm that far exceeded predictions, at least in my area. It’s a long drive and in this weather, would probably take over an hour. It took me forever to even get around the block to come back home 🙂 No way would I probably even make it alive, and if I did, I would have to stay the night which I don’t want to do and cannot do because I have an important project I have to work on early tomorrow morning.  
I smell wonderful, though. And there pretty much went the rest of my MX135 😠 Although yes, chocolate goes fine with smoky sexy leathery perfumes.

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**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/14 "2007-02-25T02:43:45Z")

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Glad you made it home safely, love. That drive must have been scary. 😮

ETA: _giggles at being at 69 posts_ Yes, I’m 12.

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 2:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/15 "2007-02-25T02:55:32Z")

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> [@vkat](#):
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> Well, I’m all 'moned up and no place to go. Terrible ice storm that far exceeded predictions, at least in my area. It’s a long drive and in this weather, would probably take over an hour. It took me forever to even get around the block to come back home 🙂 No way would I probably even make it alive, and if I did, I would have to stay the night which I don’t want to do and cannot do because I have an important project I have to work on early tomorrow morning.  
> I smell wonderful, though. And there pretty much went the rest of my MX135 😠 Although yes, chocolate goes fine with smoky sexy leathery perfumes.

damn! that sucks. I’m sorry. ☹

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/16 "2007-02-25T02:56:36Z")

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maybe you could order a pizza or something and experiment on whatever brave soul is willing to drive out to you?

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**Author:** ![vkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/59ef9b/32.png) [@vkat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vkat)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/17 "2007-02-25T03:37:34Z")

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> [@Nunya](#):
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> maybe you could order a pizza or something and experiment on whatever brave soul is willing to drive out to you?

I’m telling ya. I thought of going to a nearby bar by myself, although that might be a little strange, or someplace to at least have myself a nice dinner - but it’s too yucky for even that.

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2007, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/heres-whats-coming-any-tips/2164/18 "2007-02-25T03:47:15Z")

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yeah - bars alone can be sketchy, unless you are already comfortable there. are you gonna be around people tomorrow? if so, why not skip the shower tonight and see what residuals do for ya, if you can get away with it?
