# Hey all **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [October 15, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452 "2008-10-15T18:47:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![1nsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/c4cdca/32.png) [@1nsight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1nsight)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/1 "2008-10-15T18:47:02Z")
Hey, joined yesterday, but forgot to stick a thread up in here. Im a 21 yr old dude from england, ive dabbled in game theory a fair bit, more in terms of thought process and current approach augmentation, rather than trying to change myself drastically. Neil strauss and Mystery style stuff isn’t my thing at all, im more into the deeper mental stuff, than canned lines and routines. I developed a number of my own routines, but I felt it took away the fun and unpredictability of dating and relationships, wheres the fun in planning everything in advance? There is some good stuff from carlos xuma and david deida out there, that I enjoyed, but the whole game thing just seems seedy and played out to me these days. I recently read some stuff about pheremones, had a think about it and came to the conclusion that they could be rather exciting things to experiment with. I particularly enjoy reading about the enhancement of feelings and atmosphere, that people have reported. My interest is now rather high, and I really just need to try some things out! Im looking forward to my first experiences with them! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/2 "2008-10-15T19:01:54Z")
Welcome to the forum! For a 21yo looking for dates, Ammo and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) are good. Less chance of OD ing on nones, but still plenty of sexiness. A social or two will help girls feel good and trust you. Instant openness is good for lighthearted banter, and Instant honesty for creating connection. ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/3 "2008-10-15T19:03:28Z")
Welcome to the forum!!! Tell us what types of situations you are wanting to use pheros in (work, clubbing, personal relationships, etc) and what you are hoping to get out of them. It will help us to give better recommendations to you. ---
**Author:** ![1nsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/c4cdca/32.png) [@1nsight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1nsight)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/4 "2008-10-15T19:06:32Z")
Thanks! Yeh, I started a thread about what to get for my first order, before I realised there was an intro forum. Instant gent I am definately getting a full bottle of, but I cant decide what else to get. There are so many that sound appealing! ---
**Author:** ![1nsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/c4cdca/32.png) [@1nsight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1nsight)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/5 "2008-10-15T19:20:48Z")
Thanks river. Situation wise, im looking for a mix of two pheremones to wear to uni, one of which I have decided is going to be instant gentleman. Im rather dominant as it is, so im hoping instant gent will help me keep that side around, but soften it and smooth it out a bit. I guess I want to seem warmer and more approachable at uni. For the other half of the mix, I was thinking of one of the socials, but I cant really decide between p74, cttm2 and openness. I want people to feel that they can approach me, I generally get a lot of iois, but women rarely seem confident enough to approach me. When im out clubbing its not a problem, because im willing to do the approaching, but at uni, I just want to be more social and make more friends. It would be nice if someone actually approached me to talk for what would be pretty much the first time ever! I think I will buy togos of tuth and ammo to mix with the gent when I go out, and perhaps a togo of female magic just to try it out on some of the more ice cold women. Do you think gent + ammo would be too much for uni? I definately want to buy 2 full size bottles, to have a lengthy trial period with a mix and report back. So I guess my question is, gent + what for uni?? ---
**Author:** ![1nsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/c4cdca/32.png) [@1nsight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1nsight)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/6 "2008-10-15T20:46:22Z")
Awww, my post vanished again, so ill type it yet again lol!! Thanks river! Situation wise, im looking for a nice mix for uni, a mix that will soften my alphaness a bit and perhaps bring some warmth to my persona. Im thinking instant gentleman is the way to go, so im going to get some of that. Im not sure what to team it with, originally, I was going to get another full sized bottle, but now im thinking ill just get a load of togos, and experiment to find out what works for me. So far im thinking x2 openness, x2tuth, x2 shine and female magic. Im thinking ill try different combos of shine, openness and gentleman for uni and then add some Turn Up The Heat to the mix for nights out and see what happens. I think ill keep the female magic in my jacket pocket, for situations where I suspect ill have an ice cold lady to deal with. Im going to try and do some proper testing of the different mixes and will report back on here. Any thoughts on p74 btw, because im still mulling over getting some of that as well, though the high doses are putting me off (because a couple of uses and a togo will be all gone!). ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/7 "2008-10-15T20:51:30Z")
Those are some good choices! You will have a little bit of everything in your arsenal to start experimenting. I use p74, but you may want to read in the men’s forum what exactly in does on men. I gather it gives off a cool guy vibe, but am not sure about the precise workings. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/8 "2008-10-15T21:04:43Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum. I think [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) would be good but I would be careful with hitting the club with TUTH already on. I think you would do a lot better to go with Ammo and maybe some IO and Shine. If you want to get some TUTH I would save that for a little later when things seem to be heading in that direction. I would also recommend buying a couple empty TO Go bottles if you are getting everything in the 30 ml bottle size so you have a “resupply” on hand. ---
**Author:** ![1nsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/c4cdca/32.png) [@1nsight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1nsight)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/9 "2008-10-15T21:21:19Z")
Do you think that I can use ammo at uni? Perhaps a combo of instant gent and ammo might be worthwhile? Or should I go for instant gent and openness at uni and save ammo for the club? ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/10 "2008-10-15T21:25:25Z")
As long as you do not wear too much cologne and become the “cologne guy”, Ammo at school ought to be fine. Read my thread about A314 vs [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) (in my signature block). I alternate between the two and you can do the same with Ammo and Gentleman. Try wearing one for a few weeks. Then you can switch to the other. After a few weeks go back. After you have been doing this for a while - say several months - you may need to shorten the switch times to just a week or so which is what some of us longer-term users do. ---
**Author:** ![1nsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/c4cdca/32.png) [@1nsight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1nsight)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/11 "2008-10-15T21:32:26Z")
Thanks for the help. I think im sorted on what im going to get now, although ammo is out of stock on the togos, which is slightly annoying! ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/12 "2008-10-15T22:00:32Z")
Heed Boss’s advice about Turn Up The Heat! He knows what he’s talking about! And, yeah, like Butterfly said, read up on the [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/). You might get a better idea of when and how much to use from the men’s threads. Looks like you’ve already got a great combo ideas so I don’t have much to add other than keep us posted on your adventures! Good luck!!! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-all/21452/13 "2008-10-16T01:09:34Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 Great suggestions from the members. IG AMMO are both good to start with. TUTH would probably be to over the top for you. I do suggest at least one social like IO or Ishine. Ammo will be in stock in to-go soon. They are pretty quick restocking consumer products. If you have questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way 😃** Tisha