# Hey Everybody **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 14, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833 "2009-12-14T23:56:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Trancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Trancer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trancer)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/1 "2009-12-14T23:56:28Z")
I’ve been checking out the forum for about a week, trying to learn all the basics. I just joined, and this is my first post. I ordered IShine (4X - it was all they had in stock) on Friday, and it was at my door today. They don’t mess around! I’m looking forward to ordering several more, and I’ve already got a pretty good idea what I want to get. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/2 "2009-12-15T00:09:58Z")
That’s good that you have a pretty good idea on what you want to get. However, let us know more about you, what your goals are with [pheromones](https://a314.com/), and any other tidbits of helpful information you can give us and you’ll be able to qualify for a $25 GC. We’d love to give you some pheromone help as well along the way. 🙂 > [@Trancer](#): > > I’ve been checking out the forum for about a week, trying to learn all the basics. I just joined, and this is my first post. > > I ordered IS (4X - it was all they had in stock) on Friday, and it was at my door today. They don’t mess around! I’m looking forward to ordering several more, and I’ve already got a pretty good idea what I want to get. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/3 "2009-12-15T00:53:37Z")
Welcome! Like mikoto said, knowing a bit more about you can help us think of some suggestions for you. What type of personality do you have? Are you more introverted or extroverted? What do you hope to get out of using pheromones? ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/4 "2009-12-15T03:44:04Z")
Wow. Instant SHine x4 for your first purchase? You sound like a pro! What are you looking for in [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) use though? ---
**Author:** ![Cherub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cherub/32/1282_2.png) [@Cherub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cherub)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/5 "2009-12-15T06:06:07Z")
Aloha and welcome to the boards..Like everyone else is saying tell us a little more about yourself.Age,geographical location,targets etc and they can help recomend some stuff for your next order!..happy testing! ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/6 "2009-12-15T18:30:54Z")
Thanks so much for joining PheroTalk, I’m super excited to have you here. It’s always great when a new member discovers a world so full of endless possibilities. The only limits to mones is our own imagination 🙂 While I would love to issue you the $25 Gift Certificate for saying hello I do kindly request you post some more about yourself here. If you are unsure about what qualifies as sufficient to obtain the gift certificate I am just itching to email you, please have a look at this thread: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) I wrote it to help everyone in writing the perfect introduction. Of course the choice is yours and your privacy is very important. If you just don’t feel comfortable providing additional info we will all still do our best to assist you anyway. Welcome to PheroTalk ---
**Author:** ![Trancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Trancer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trancer)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 4:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/7 "2009-12-17T04:29:20Z")
Let’s try this again Hi Everybody, Well, I didn’t read the Intro before I posted my first “Hello,” so I didn’t really cover the bases. Okay, I guess if you’re gonna say it, say it like you mean it: My name is Doug, and I graduated from college in 1997. I live in the Midwest. I officially joined the forum a couple of days ago. I actually stumbled on this forum by typing the following into Google: “I want girls to flirt with me.” When I found PheroTalk, I was stunned. I had no idea that pheromone R&D had progressed this far. I knew the basics of pheromones, and I’d looked at some of the -none based products a few years ago, but I just wasn’t impressed with what was available. The [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) available at Androtics Direct, based on the descriptions of people using them, sound phenomenal. I’ve been reading the forum and product descriptions for over a week. I ordered IShine (4X - they were out of everything else!) last Friday and got it on Monday. I’ve tried it out twice, and I definitely noticed a feeling of being “on.” As far as my personality, I tend to be more introverted than extroverted, though I am _very_ good at guiding conversations - as a result of the fact that I’m a master practitioner of NLP, and also a master hypnotist. I also have more conscious control over what I’m communicating with my voice tone and body language than 99.99% of the population. So I have no problems talking to people, it’s just that I don’t tend to initiate conversations with people I don’t know. I don’t have a problem talking to people where conversation is a normal part of the context (girl behind the counter at the book store or movie theater, for example), but I won’t just go up to someone outside of that kind of context and start a conversation. I don’t have the highest self-confidence in the world, UNLESS I’m “on,” which is pretty hit-and-miss. I’ve got a decent looking face, but I’m short and I’m an ectomorph, which is not typically what women are looking for. I’m also not extremely masculine, which isn’t _necessarily_ a negative, but by the same token, there are circumstances where it doesn’t help. All of this combines to make my social life generally nonexistent. I very seldom do bars and clubs at all, unless I’m with a group of friends. As the vast majority of my friends are spread across the country, it just doesn’t happen very often. Though there have been some notable exceptions, I tend to be socially “invisible.” I’ve done a lot of research on the forum and reading the product descriptions and user comments, so I’ve got a pretty good idea of what I want to start off with: As I mentioned, I’ve already got IShine 4X. I got this for the “confidence” and “feeling good” effect. Also the “youthful shine” that’s mentioned, as I’m interested mainly in women in the 22-30 range. I’m familiar with the feeling of being “on” (and when I’m in that state, I get highly positive responses from women), and that’s exactly the effect that IS gave me, though I need to work with it a little to “tune” the effect. At the top of my list to pick up next is CTTM2. As I said, I’m very good with conversations, assuming someone is interested in being in a conversation with me in the first place. I’m much more interested in this than in IO/IH, because of the even balance of alpha and beta androstenol. What I’m mainly hoping to get from this is either A.) women initiating conversations with _me_, OR B.) making the initiating of a conversation much more natural and less “clunky.” Sort of “greasing the skids.” After that, the single most important thing on my list is androstadienone. I’m extremely disappointed that Androtics Direct no longer produces IFM, but I’m hoping that they’ll be getting A1 back in stock. I’ve seen the product page, but there’s no indication if they’ll be making it available again. If anyone knows anything about this, please let me know. This one is non-negotiable. I’d _much_ rather get this from AD, because they make it available pre-mixed and ready-to-go in a spray bottle, but I have seen one other site selling it. Next is probably A314, followed closely by AMMO. Though from what I understand, A314 doesn’t really have the sexual edge of AMMO. Given the fact that AMMO isn’t available right now, I’ll likely be getting A314, which I know is a really incredible product. One question I do have is about the A314 variants that are available. Anyone who understands the differences between the variants, your recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I could probably safely get away with using TUTH instead of AMMO, because the rest of the lineup I’m putting together would probably buffer it sufficiently to avoid the typical problems. Again, any advice would be appreciated. Last but not least, I’d like to add P83 and P79 to the mix. Yes, I understand that these are more for research use by themselves, without being mixed with other products, but I’ve read enough to get a solid sense that these would work well with what I’m putting together. I particularly want P83 for its ability to increase “sensuality” in the right combinations, but it’s currently unavailable. Again, if anyone knows when it will be available again, I’d appreciate a heads-up. For anyone who knows of other products from Androtics Direct that might work in place of, or even better than, some of the choices I’ve made, please let me know. I need all the help I can get. I know there are a lot of putatives and experimental mixes that I know literally nothing about, and I’d appreciate any information more experienced users can give me. Well, there you have it. Hopefully that will give everyone a good enough idea of what I’m looking for to be able to give me some good advice. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 5:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/8 "2009-12-17T05:03:03Z")
You seem to have done your research and have done a great job choosing products for yourself. IO is a great choice to make people more likely to approach you, and some users report a decrease in approach anxiety. Definitely something you would want to pick up, I have seen great reactions from it myself. I also think you would benefit from getting A314 early. Don’t be discouraged that it doesn’t have a sexual edge, it shows power and importance, and that can be a very sexy thing to ladies.Steer the conversation in the right direction and you can get what you want from it. I personally have not used it, but I have used IG which is a less intense form of it and love it. A314 and IO or IS tends to be a winning combination, and I think it would suit you quite well before diving into the p-series Good luck and happy experimenting! Any more questions feel free to ask! ---
**Author:** ![Cherub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cherub/32/1282_2.png) [@Cherub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Cherub)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/9 "2009-12-17T05:19:33Z")
Aloha and welcome to the boards! I also recomend A314 ..its a great product.I have personally tested this is so far is my favorite!Its also good for work!I have just recently purchased all the instant lines and currently testing now…I would buy everything if i could afford it!HAppy testing and keep us up to date! ---
**Author:** ![Trancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Trancer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trancer)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/10 "2009-12-17T05:36:17Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > You seem to have done your research and have done a great job choosing products for yourself. IO is a great choice to make people more likely to approach you, and some users report a decrease in approach anxiety. Definitely something you would want to pick up, I have seen great reactions from it myself. > I also think you would benefit from getting A314 early. Don’t be discouraged that it doesn’t have a sexual edge, it shows power and importance, and that can be a very sexy thing to ladies.Steer the conversation in the right direction and you can get what you want from it. I personally have not used it, but I have used IG which is a less intense form of it and love it. A314 and IO or IS tends to be a winning combination, and I think it would suit you quite well before diving into the p-series > > Good luck and happy experimenting! Any more questions feel free to ask! If you had to choose, would you go with IO or CTTM2? ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/11 "2009-12-17T06:02:08Z")
As far as Androstadienone is concerned, Androtics will not be getting it back in stock. It has very negative effects on a small proportion of men. IIRC, it causes suicidal feelings and really severe depression in these individuals. As a result, Androtics won’t sell it. ---
**Author:** ![Trancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Trancer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trancer)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/12 "2009-12-17T07:19:26Z")
> [@tezza23](#): > > As far as Androstadienone is concerned, Androtics will not be getting it back in stock. It has very negative effects on a small proportion of men. IIRC, it causes suicidal feelings and really severe depression in these individuals. As a result, Androtics won’t sell it. Hmmm… Do you know if Androtics sells any other pheromone mix that has similar effects to A1 on women (without the negative effects on some males)? ---
**Author:** ![Trancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Trancer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trancer)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/13 "2009-12-17T07:22:35Z")
> [@LucidDreamer](#): > > Wow. Instant SHine x4 for your first purchase? > > You sound like a pro! > > What are you looking for in pheromone use though? I like to do my research before I jump in. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/14 "2009-12-17T17:58:53Z")
Hello and welcome to PheroTalk. I am so happy you were able to discover this most amazing community. We consider each other like family here and are totally committed to helping each other out. There are so many great people here and now another too 🙂. I will be issuing your GC in just a short while to your email. I would love to be able to personally respond to every new user signing on, but because I want to ensure you get the GC in time I can only reply with this message at this time. I’m sure you are anxious to get started, just like the rest of us were too 🙂. Its cool! Of course Steve is available to answer any question you might have regarding mones. Please call our hot-line and select extension one and Steve will be able to consult you one on one. Welcome to the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everybody/34833/15 "2009-12-31T17:49:30Z")
CTTM2 isn’t something that I have tried yet. I could tell you from experience that IO works very well, not sure what the difference between the two are. I know that CTTM2 is an equal mix of anol and bnol. anol makes more quantity of conversation were as bnol ( also found in IH) improves the quantity. With that said I can’t give you a good opinion of the two because I have only used one. Just remember that your probably not going to get people coming up and starting full blown conversations with you. Look for mundane or somewhat dumb things to be said to you. Its usually a sign they are trying to start a conversation, than get them started and you might be wishing they would shut up lol.