# Hey everyone

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everyone/59799>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [August 15, 2013, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everyone/59799 "2013-08-15T06:41:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![westie1000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/94ad74/32.png) [@westie1000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/westie1000)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everyone/59799/1 "2013-08-15T06:41:29Z")

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Hey, all. I’ve been curious about [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) for a while now. I’m a writer who acts on the side. I’m not extremely attractive, but can pull off a sophisticated gentleman look well. Still, I’ve been a little unlucky with women. My blood type is A, btw.

My problem is mostly not knowing how to close, and sometimes, how to begin. I have a lot of confidence when I’m comfortable, and when I’m comfortable I am charming and funny, but sometimes I don’t have the confidence to make it to the next step. My general personality is one of kind of a witty rogue who balances low culture and high culture. The women that I’ve attracted tend to be quite attractive, intelligent, creative, and that’s where problems happen. When I find women that I don’t find appealing, it’s quite easy to be myself, but for obvious reasons, I’m not interested.

I’m curious if pheromones can help me be more confident in attracting women, making moves on women that are attracted to me, and if that turns into a relationship, maintaining that positive and confident mindset that attracted women to me in the first place? If so, are there any particular pheros you’d recommend for me?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 8:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everyone/59799/2 "2013-08-15T08:19:59Z")

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Hi,

If I understand correctly, you do not have a problem attracting women, but keeping them interested once they have approached you? i.e you lack the confidence to keep them interested in you?

I have found Instant Shine a very useful mood-lifting product. Albeit Ammo is an all-purpose product which for me - at least - has had some good self-effects. Albeit to a much lesser degree than Instant Shine. If the problem is in bonding with those women, then try [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and enjoy deeper conversations it promotes. It does not have any self effects I am aware of, but other than that it is damn good. 🙂

On the other hand you could try out P75. It is not a main line product and not once usually recommended for newbies, but it helps a lot confidence-wise. In both self effects and how other people see me. It is a bit tricky though, and you should limit it to around 2,5mcg per use (you can customise the mcg per spray if you were to place an order), though I have used even 15mcg and more - with buffering of course (other more social products, i.e Instant Honesty)

Frankly speaking there are a lot of products at Androtics, and a lot of information in the forums. The journals are particularily useful.

I hope you will enjoy your stay. 🙂

Welcome onboard.

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**Author:** ![westie1000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/94ad74/32.png) [@westie1000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/westie1000)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 9:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everyone/59799/3 "2013-08-15T09:16:38Z")

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Hey, Styr. I think I wasn’t too clear in that first post. It’s not that I am seen as unappealing to women. It’s basically that if I don’t see a CLEAR signal to make a move, I don’t make a move, even when I know she wants me to make one. If a woman gives me a CLEAR signal, I interact with them in a way that I think is flawless, but if not, things get awkward rather quick, and I get friendzoned.

The stuff about the relationships is that when a confidence-breaker happens in it, it’s hard for me to recover and be smooth, and it leads to me falling off in confidence, and her losing the once strong interest she had.

Thanks for your help. I just want to be smooth even when things are difficult or unclear, that’s what I’m looking to see if pheromones can help me with. Please tell me if you’d alter your suggestions.

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**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 10:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everyone/59799/4 "2013-08-15T10:21:18Z")

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I misread a little myself. 🙂

You should try out [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). It makes you extremely approachable, and more outgoing girls might even approach you first. Combine Instant Openness with Ammo\*, and at the very least you would notice their interest.

\*Ammo makes you interesting for them, Instant Openness helps them demonstrate their interest.

I will still stick with my first recommendation, i.e you need to be more confident.

Basically:  
P75 makes you more confident.  
Instant Shine makes you and others happier.

Once you become more confident then the girls will have a tougher time putting you into the friend zone. It may happen that you do not need more than Ammo (And instant openness). Then again, I am pretty sure you won’t stick with just one order once you see the effectiveness of the products here. .)

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**Author:** ![westie1000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/94ad74/32.png) [@westie1000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/westie1000)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 10:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everyone/59799/5 "2013-08-16T10:07:03Z")

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These products look really great. I just have a few more questions. Styr, or anyone, feel free to answer:

1. I work in solitary situations for extended periods of time as a writer. Let’s say I go out to a social situation two days a week, can I use these mones only on those days, as effectively as someone whose lifestyle necessitates a more social outlook?

2. Are there any positive or negative side effects that have been reported by men using pheromones to their health or appearance? I can definitely see the increase in mood and magnetism, but I’m wondering if there’s anything beyond that - good or bad, or if the mones just allows your best you to shine.

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everyone/59799/6 "2013-08-16T16:39:40Z")

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Welcome Westie,

This is a super informal and not so tailored response if you will.

I would luuuuuuuv to spend more time assisting you especially since you are a newbie.

We are short staffed and these gift certificates are done manually.

It takes a great deal and I am back logged.

I am hoping that when I catch up on my work, I can start answering these intro threads the way I use to

In fact, I am hoping that soon, someone more experienced than me can come in so I get to do what I am great at, customer service.

Thank you for giving pheromones a chance.

Your gc was issued!

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**Author:** ![westie1000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/94ad74/32.png) [@westie1000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/westie1000)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everyone/59799/7 "2013-08-18T01:46:52Z")

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Thanks, Mickaelia - I got the GC. Definitely curious about the mones.

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**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everyone/59799/8 "2013-08-20T02:43:20Z")

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> [@westie1000](#):
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> These products look really great. I just have a few more questions. Styr, or anyone, feel free to answer:
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> 1. I work in solitary situations for extended periods of time as a writer. Let’s say I go out to a social situation two days a week, can I use these mones only on those days, as effectively as someone whose lifestyle necessitates a more social outlook?
> 
> 2. Are there any positive or negative side effects that have been reported by men using pheromones to their health or appearance? I can definitely see the increase in mood and magnetism, but I’m wondering if there’s anything beyond that - good or bad, or if the mones just allows your best you to shine.
> 
> Thanks!

Wow! You questions have a lot of answers. Frankly you’ll have to test.

Here is #1 though. Yes, slap them on when and only when you think you need them. I wear them about 5 out of 7 days I’d say, 2 or 3 because I want the effects, the other half the time to test, the other days off to reset and gauge the new me. They ARE a vehicle to personal change for many a person on this site and others.

As for #2, there are so, so, so many answers to that question. You’ll have to test, test, test.

Ie Some peeps LOVE how Ammo makes them feel. For me it either puts me off or mildly annoying. Others slap on P75 for wood or to work out. I slap on IG + IH to be the man, add some MX297 to feel great and/or Bliss. I’ll also slap on some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) in general to make the peeps around me feel great, but the boost I get from it isn’t that noticeable if I’ve been using it more than once a week.

Downsides… A lot of men find A1 to minorly to majorly depress them. Too much Instant Shine will burn out most people. Another supplier, PheromoneXS’ products in general will burn me out if I forget to wash them off. Ditto on AD’s but I have to slap on a whole ton that day. (8 or 9 combined sprays).

What you do with all these mones is entirely up to you. You can make a mix for most situations. Either in bed (TAC, TUTH, P83) or chatting (IO or Odyssey/Spaceland) or deep rapport (IH) or feel good (Instant Shine or Bliss among others). Some will be for status. Yet to muck about with A314, but peeps have saluted me about a dozen times in the last 3 months just due to IG. Got maybe two salutes in the 20 years previous to that.

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**Author:** ![westie1000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/94ad74/32.png) [@westie1000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/westie1000)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2013, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-everyone/59799/9 "2013-10-24T13:55:58Z")

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Wow. It’s been a while. I have to say I was skeptical before, but this stuff really works. I moved to a new town shortly after purchase, and immediately became the center of attention. Here’s some reviews of what I bought:

[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) - Eh. Didn’t work too well for me. I need to be more open and aggressive. This would be good for guys who need to tone it down, not amp it up. I’m not sure why I bought this. I think this would be good for some men, but not me.

Ammo - This is an amazing product. It made me the center of attention, very personable, charismatic, funny, a bit of a wiseass. Loved it.

P91 - This was complementary when I purchased! This is an interesting product. Kind of like Ammo, but slightly toned down; but it also allows you to project a masculine yet sophisticated authority, if the situation calls for it.

Can’t wait to get some more purchases! I ran out of Ammo & Gentleman, and running low on P91
