# Hey fellow Phero users!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [May 22, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213 "2009-05-22T04:35:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Mr\_Discovery](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr_discovery/32/460_2.png) [@Mr\_Discovery](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr_Discovery)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/1 "2009-05-22T04:35:18Z")

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Hey guys and gals I’m new to the world of pheromones and this fab forum.

I’ll start off by saying my name is Aaron. I’m 20 years old from Canada. My reason for getting into pheromones primarily is I am a pretty socially shy creature. I do have social anxiety and find it very difficult to approach the opposite sex much less hitting on them. I usually don’t go to parties or any social events much which makes it further difficult to meet anyone. However I do like going to the gym frequently and that’s usually my remote chance to meet or talk to any females at all. like I said though I find it very difficult to even make eye contact with the opposite sex but would much prefer they approach me and or atleast show initial interest.

I currently own Phurlere (yes I know it’s junk) and alpha 7 scented. However I am underdog because I am a younger fella and alpha-7 + intense gym workout = bad from what I heard.

. What do I hope to gain from using these fab products? Well I’m hoping to become more socially acceptable. I want to talk to people easier and come off as less intimidating and offending as I naturally am. As for my long term goals. I really hope to find and meet the right partner for me. I am pretty lonely and usually am hard to get to know or understand so I think investing faith in phero products will boost and possibly ignite a inner flame to push me in that direction of meeting someone perfect for me. I’m out for love and long term commitment. I do believe myself to have the odds against me but I’m keeping my chin up and am willing to experiment with some Phero products. I’m a pretty introverted fella all and all I like daydreaming, thinking, creating, learning philosophy. I am interested in Alot of internal things rather then external stimuli. Which to say I’m not boring! I love travel and really want to go to Japan someday for it’s immense culture and spirituality as well as it’s modern day style and zest.  
I am also a fan of body building and weight lifting. I’m a beginner/ intermediate, so I’m getting up there! My dad was one so I guess I’m following in his footsteps.

I pose two questions. does sweating affect any pheros one might have on? and can you OD on any [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) such as instant openess?

Thanks for reading guys!

Much love , Mr D

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/2 "2009-05-22T04:41:04Z")

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Hi Aaron, welcome to the forum!  
I too am shy,i too dont go to parties much or social events.  
I started useing [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) a month or lil more ago, not sure exactally and they have done great for me!

i would recommend socail pheromones to start off with, openness will help you with talking to people, it will not force you to and will not make them talk to you, but it will help them want to talk to you, and once you and they start talking, they keep talking 🙂 but you got to initiate it.

please tell us what you want to gain from pheromones. what are your goals with them?  
Do you want respect from your peers? want to attract women?  
thanks, and welcome  
-nate

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/3 "2009-05-22T05:02:02Z")

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SOE is a good product and I think you would find it worth experimenting with. I’ve found Chikara less useful personally.

This is an androtics forum and mostly we talk about their products here. They have excellent quality control and many of the users here buy exclusively from them, for good reason.

You will not get around having to open conversations, even with pheromones. However, nol based products like io and ih will make conversations flow easily and naturally once you let the ladies know it’s ok to talk to you by giving them an opening signal. I highly suggest you try those two products.

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**Author:** ![silentscope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/silentscope/32/2218_2.png) [@silentscope](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/silentscope)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/4 "2009-05-22T05:33:37Z")

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Hi Aaron and Welcome to the forrum.

Im still shy somtimes myself. I go out but I try to go the bars and clubs once in awhile. SOE is a good product with a pleasent scent I bought with the combo pack. I would also start with the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) , Instant Openness and Instant Honesty for you could open up more mand Instant Shine.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Discovery](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr_discovery/32/460_2.png) [@Mr\_Discovery](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr_Discovery)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/5 "2009-05-22T06:42:12Z")

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Thanks guys. I’m seriously considering starting with instant openness.

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 2:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/6 "2009-05-22T14:07:08Z")

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sorry for not reading your first post better, tiredness was getting the better of me!  
I would say openness for talking to people, works good but gota strat the convo still.  
instant gentlemen is great, it gives you respect, but not to alpha that people are intimidated by you, that is another good one.  
instant shine! is one my faves. it makes you happy! and the people around you happy!, everyone likes happy people… ok most everyone.  
Ammo, is great for attraction, and is safe to ware just about everywhere. i would also recomend doing the style life challenge, by neil strauss, in his book the rules of the game, it is a 30 day chrash course in life skillz/ pua.

im glad to see your here and hope pheromones help you as much as they help me 🙂

id like to know more about you still, what kind of things do you like doing!?  
i like riding motorcycles alot, I have rode a motorcycle to almost all the states in america! whats some intersting things about you?!

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Discovery](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr_discovery/32/460_2.png) [@Mr\_Discovery](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr_Discovery)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/7 "2009-05-22T18:18:56Z")

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> [@bedojo](#):
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> id like to know more about you still, what kind of things do you like doing!?  
> i like riding motorcycles alot, I have rode a motorcycle to almost all the states in america! whats some intersting things about you?!

@ bedojo

Lol well thanks for the kind words and eagerness to get to know me. Sounds like you have quite an adventure packed life at such a young age. good for you bedojo. I like motorbikes myself too but never rode one unfortunately!! So I don’t know the true power and freedom one can give I can only imagine I hear good things! LUCKY YOU! I’d love to own a Harley fatboy hehe.

As for me shucks I haven’t done anything as satisfying or fun as that. I’m a pretty introverted fella I like daydreaming, thinking, creating, learning philosophy. Alot of internal things rather then external stimuli. Which to say I’m not boring! I love travel and really want to go to Japan someday for it’s immense culture and spirituality as well as it’s modern day style and zest.

I am also a fan of body building and weight lifting. I’m a beginner/ intermediate, so I’m getting up there! My dad was one so I guess I’m following in his footsteps.

Well that’s me, the basics of me lol I don’t want to ramble on. I have a story to tell like everyone else and I don’t want to crash the servers on here telling it all day hehe. I hope that fed your curiosity!

Much love, Mr D

PS quick question for you in return. How would you think Instant honesty would work as a icebreaker? I admire instant honesty social power. would it work for breaking the ice and getting a good deep convo going? wold perhaps others approch me?

Thanks for the insight in advance.

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/8 "2009-05-22T21:19:48Z")

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Oh cool, I need start working out again, i used to, but school, electrical and computer engineering, is quite a challenging major. lol.

As for your question, I have not tested instant honesty as much as openness, but I have used honesty on my friend(gril), and she talked about alot of stuff she enver talked about before, like her dad beating her her whole life, so i would have to say it works for deep convo. (hasnt talked about it before).  
Now for openness I have used this a bit more, it opens friendly chit chat, that keeps on going and going.  
but neither of these will make others approch you, but will both help the conversation once you open, and other people will recive you as “friendly”, and be more willing to talk to you.  
instant shine might help you also, it puts of a happy positve vibe, and makes you and people areound you happy, generally.  
I would recomend starting off with [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) first, instead of sexual. If you want something that is attractive, Ammo would be your best bet, it is more socaily acceptable, opposed to tuth = i want to f~ right now.

would also recomend doing the style life challenge, in Neil Strauss book, rules of the game.  
It is not only intro course into PUA, but an all over life style change, helps become more social. helped me alot!

Ill bee lookin forward to seeing what you get 🙂  
-nate

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/9 "2009-05-22T23:41:54Z")

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

I see you have a little experience with some products. I am sure you will love the products here.

> [@](#):
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> I pose two questions. does sweating affect any pheros one might have on? and can you [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) on any social pheromones such as instant openness?

If your sweating profusely from a work out it can diffuse them quickly especially if your using a towel to whip off. Mild sweating wont hurt them.

The classic OD effect as we describe it here only occurs with anone products however you can use to much IO and make people sort of zone out or to much Ishine and give yourself a headache and sort of a burn out feeling. This is why its important to find the correct dosage for you Now if you want to mega dose just for testing purposes that fine it wont harm you.

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> PS quick question for you in return. How would you think Instant honesty would work as a icebreaker? I admire instant honesty social power. would it work for breaking the ice and getting a good deep convo going? wold perhaps others approch me?

You may want to consider CTTM. This is a 50/50 mix of the primary mones in IH and IO. IO is more ice breaking. IH is deeper and helps people connect and converse about more personal subjects. While it can break the ice on its own I think if your shy the using a combo or using IO while be more effective.

**Your GC is on its way**

If you need help just let me know.

Have fun

Tisha  
Hostess/Guide

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/10 "2009-05-23T00:54:26Z")

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Snort 😃 Ummm I had a typo and said… Whip it off instead of wipe it off LOL . I was not being perverse although there have been moments.

Sorry 😛

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Discovery](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr_discovery/32/460_2.png) [@Mr\_Discovery](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr_Discovery)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/11 "2009-05-23T00:59:27Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Snort 😃 Ummm I had a typo and said… Whip it off instead of wipe it off LOL . I was not being perverse although there have been moments.
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> Sorry 😛
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> Tisha

LOL! it happens Tisha I’m alot worse believe you me hehe.

Thanks for the wonderful gift cert too!!! very happy about that. That’s a awfully nice and helpful thing you do for folks. Much love and much thank yous again!!

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Discovery](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr_discovery/32/460_2.png) [@Mr\_Discovery](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr_Discovery)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/12 "2009-05-23T01:26:31Z")

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I think I will announce to all you wonderful peeps that I will try the instant openness as my social tool and I shall give you any updates if I see any sort of results.

Wish me luck guys and once again thanks for the $25 cert It helps alot.

Much love and best of luck to all fellow Phero men and women in your experiences.

Yours truly- Mr D

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/13 "2009-05-23T01:37:11Z")

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if your going to buy to-gos, with it or 30ml?  
if getting togos get a few differnt togos, otherwise shipping will cost more in the end 🙂

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Discovery](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr_discovery/32/460_2.png) [@Mr\_Discovery](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr_Discovery)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 2:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/14 "2009-05-23T02:17:46Z")

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> [@bedojo](#):
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> if your going to buy to-gos, with it or 30ml?  
> if getting togos get a few differnt togos, otherwise shipping will cost more in the end 🙂

Hey bedojo,

I decided to go with the 30 ml instant openness I want to be well stocked I know i get more selection with to-go but I just thought if instant openness works then I’ll have a good amount to last me awhile. I have faith so wish me luck.

best of luck to you also.

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**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 7:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-fellow-phero-users/29213/15 "2009-05-23T07:50:25Z")

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Good luck!  
Remimber you still need  
to initiate 🙂  
hope to hear successful storys from you!  
_getting laid isn’t the only success, success is different for each person_  
-nate
