# hey guys - ammo or TUH? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 10, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys-ammo-or-tuh/3049 "2007-04-10T21:14:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![acyzaak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@acyzaak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/acyzaak)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys-ammo-or-tuh/3049/1 "2007-04-10T21:14:13Z")
hey guys i’m gonna be making my order real soon and cant decide on the fnial list. the products i def. wanna get are: instant shine instant openness A314 Turn up the heat OR ammo (need help in deciding which one) - for bars and clubs? 😕 im gonna be 21 in in a few months, i dont want any long term relationships just yet so that kinda rules out instant female magic in terms of long term products. I’m already social and energetic but want a little more ‘edge’. My main aim: socialise more, be fun and have people around me enjoying themselves and feel good around me - and of course, more female attention. Now i’m stuck between choosing TUH and ammo. I have read that ammo and TUH are BOTH GOOD for club/bar enviroments, however, after looking through posts i seem to find that people prefer TUH to ammo in club scenes - if anyone could add any views here, that would be great. so basically, they tend to have both similar outcome objectives. I know ammo is meant to give you the added edge, but due to its ambiguous detail compared to TUH - i’m starting to side with TUH ? I’m also really interested in Honesty - but dont have the money to buy all of these products (maybe i’ll get some testers 2 try out?) - unless i add it 2 the list - will see. So if i could only get one or the other, which one? ammo or TUH OR should i not even be thinking of substituting [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) with TUH and be gettin em both? any opinions will help big time. Thanx evry1 ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 11:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys-ammo-or-tuh/3049/2 "2007-04-15T23:34:21Z")
Both Ammunition and TUTH are androstenone products. Ammo is the more stand-alone “balanced” (buffered) one and probably less overpowering. Turn Up The Heat is lightly buffered, closer to raw androstenone (like [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) or Primal Instinct). They each have their place. As a younin’ you may not need the strength of TUTH, but then again, if you are only looking for ONS type things that may be the way to go. I’d tend to say get both in the small To Go sizes and see what works best for you. You could also consider (eventually) getting straight Experimone Androstenone. The one drawback I’ve found to TUTH and Ammo is that both have pretty decent built-in (but different) cover scents which might clash with what other fragrances you might be wearing. If you want a good grab-and-go all-in-one Ammunition is great. It’s been said that one thing to do is hold off on applying something like TUTH until the “time is ripe.” My problem with that at the moment is that the TUTH scent is rather strong and distintive especially when freshly applied, so your “target” would probably be well aware “something” is “in the air.” I personally prefer a more subtle approach and would rather not have such a noticable scent to announce things so to speak. I’d almost think it could break the flow. Then again such a change could be a positive thing to some people… Don’t know… Just my opinions. ---
**Author:** ![muffinman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/muffinman/32/1031_2.png) [@muffinman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/muffinman)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys-ammo-or-tuh/3049/3 "2007-04-16T05:41:32Z")
Well said Rbt! I wish there was a thread with a run-down of what [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are included in each product so newbies (such as myself) could make better informed decisions on which products to get/buy. It would also be great in avoiding possible OD and ‘clashing’ of scents. I know if some of the pro-pheromone users could spend a couple of minutes of their time to do up a guide like that. It would be extremely excellent and could serve as ‘sticky’ material? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Helix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/helix/32/1270_2.png) [@Helix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Helix)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2007, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys-ammo-or-tuh/3049/4 "2007-04-16T05:45:42Z")
yea the tuth smell is rather strong and overpowers a lot of the rest that i notice anyway