# Hey guys **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [July 23, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/16085 "2008-07-23T03:27:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Beaverlord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Beaverlord](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Beaverlord)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/16085/1 "2008-07-23T03:27:29Z")
My name is Raymond, I’m a senior in high school and I live in California. I’m really leaning towards the shine right now cause everyone seems to like it so much. I’m athletic but I wouldn’t call myself a jock. I’m pretty shy and I’m just looking to start a nice relationship with a girl. Would the instant shine or instant openness be more suited for me? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/16085/2 "2008-07-23T09:35:33Z")
Hi there, Welcome to the forum. For new user, I suggest you try out the social pheros. IO is a conversation phero. It makes people want to talk to you. Try it and you will like it. IH on the other hand can make the conversation more meaningful and deeper. The talks will last longer. To counter your shyness, use shine can uplift the mood of yourself and the people around you. It boost confidence too. Have fun. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![K24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k24/32/1513_2.png) [@K24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K24)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/16085/3 "2008-07-23T09:46:31Z")
Hi Raymond, welcome 🙂 as you are still a senoior in high school i would highly recommand the social products. IO and Ishine are great choices and would be a great start for you, easy to see results and great for beginners. for relationship with a girl you should also look into IH to create a “bond” with the girl and establish deeper communication. hope you have a good time here 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RaiderMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@RaiderMagic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RaiderMagic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 9:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/16085/4 "2008-07-23T09:54:01Z")
Hi It depends on the ethnicity of the girl really. If the girl is asian, then I suppose [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) would be better for you as from my experiences, Instant Shine made the girls extremely giddy around me. So in order for us to determine an accurate dosage, we need the ethnicity of the girl. ---
**Author:** ![RaiderMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@RaiderMagic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RaiderMagic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 9:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/16085/5 "2008-07-23T09:55:40Z")
Hey! It depends on the ethnicity of the girl really. For example, Asians tend to like [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) better, and in my experiences Instant Shine worked wonders over Instant Openess. We need the ethnicity of the girl before we can accurately suggest which pheromone to use 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/16085/6 "2008-07-23T21:39:04Z")
Hello Raymond Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 I suggest IO for you if your shy. It will increase communication and make you and others fell more confortable. They do sell to-go bottles (there is a 2 bottle minimum on them) you could try both out and see what you think before investing in a larger bottle. If you have any questions just ask. 😃 **Your GC has been sent** 😃 Have fun Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Beaverlord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Beaverlord](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Beaverlord)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/16085/7 "2008-07-24T01:28:01Z")
Thanks guys. I’m still leaning towards Instant Shine more than [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). I’m pretty shy but I can usually get over that fairly quick. I am asian so most likely I’ll be looking for an asian girl. I have a question though, if I get a girlfriend after using pheros and stopped using them after we get together, will it have an effect on the relationship? I don’t want to have to rely on this stuff just to have a relationship. Also, I was giving Ammo a lot of consideration but I don’t know if it’d be better than the Shine. I don’t really want to have a cologne smell on me. Basically I just want the best stand alone product. Something that will turn her on, make her enjoy talking to me etc. ---
**Author:** ![SiriusC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/siriusc/32/1764_2.png) [@SiriusC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SiriusC)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 12:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/16085/8 "2008-07-24T12:45:06Z")
Dude, Honesty Honesty Honesty! I was sorta like you in HS. I was more of a one on one kind of person. I don’t really like Openness & people suggest you use it in social situations, but if you’re looking for just one girl then use honesty. And some sexual pheros when you build some kind of relationship with her.