# hey guys

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/51433>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [July 26, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/51433 "2011-07-26T03:12:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![jordangoody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@jordangoody](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jordangoody)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/51433/1 "2011-07-26T03:12:48Z")

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hey there forum. whats goin on?

26yo gay guy here… ive actually been interested in [pheromones](https://a314.com/) for a long time, but just got caught up with other things and never really looked into it. i read an article a few months ago about how gay guys are attracted to the same stuff as straight women, and that must have stuck with me, cause earlier today buying other things on amazon, i found NPA, and, after some reading, bought it right away.

further reading, and now im here. im wondering how the NPA will work for me, and if there’s any tips or anything, but also, if i should really pick something else up while im at it… specifically maybe instant shine, or a314, really idk.

a bit about me/my goals - im a pretty masculine guy, but i really dont take the lead very well with strangers at all. once you get to know me, i’m really quite confident and easygoing, etc., but in social situations where everyones new, i can be pretty unapproachable and isolated. i’m one of those who checks their phone too much and ends up standing between several different conversations i’m not a part of. i just don’t bullshit well, and come off like i dont want to, either lol. unfortunately, that also means i dont make a lot of new friends… also, at work, im a programmer at a company where nobody really saw me coming, and even with some pretty impressive results (saved us $300k last year with scripts replacing overtime) its still hard to get my boss to see me as an adult who deserves more money and responsibility.

so, ideas? hows the NPA gonna treat me?

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**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/51433/2 "2011-07-26T03:30:54Z")

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Hey there,nice to meet you.

Im still pretty new to the pheremone game myself so probably better if the experts help you out a bit.Havent really looked into NPA but with the 25$ gift certificate and 5 dollar store voucher you can get some goodies to try out.They also ship really quickly and usually throw in a free gift which is awesome for here.

Think you already qualified for it but you can check it out anyway

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934)

Your pretty similar to me then.I find it really easy once i know the person but dont really feel like i fit in and keep quiet in new situations or groups.Hmm,instant openess got recommended for me which is supposed to be a pretty good ice breaker.might help you with getting you more included in conversations.Haha,im also a programmer although probably not as good as you if you save that much money using your program

For work and your boss,you could try A314 or IG with instant honesty to give more of an alpha vibe and feeling that they can trust you with more responsibility.IG supposed to be pretty good but think its still out of stock.

Probably should let the experts give you better advice and hope you have a great time here.

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**Author:** ![extraballislit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/extraballislit/32/712_2.png) [@extraballislit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extraballislit)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/51433/3 "2011-07-26T05:09:34Z")

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Hi Jordan.

Welcome on board.

I can´t really say anything about NPA, because I´ve never tired it. Some users seem to like it quiete a lot. Do an advanced in thread titles and you will find some of them. They are easy to find. Nevermind, i made the search for you. Take a look here: `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/search.php?searchid=691482`

If you want to be seen as more mature in the office, i would suggest you get some A314. If you read the prodcut decription in the store, it says: "One way you can think of A314 is as an **all access pass** to people, some of whom may have been previously "out of your league. Both men and women will give you their attention and respect, and will want to take your lead. You’ll find more people than ever “bending over backwards” to be of service to you, and, surprise, surprise… they’ll love every minute of it.

A314 is a great and very effective product. I´ve usd it with great success in a sales environment. However, sometimes it may be a little overbearing. One of my senior bossess seems to be a little bit intimidated when i wear it, and tends to argue with me. When he is around, i tent to use some IG, that still gives the respect vibe, but tends to make people like you more. Some days ago, the other senior boss in the organization said to me: “I don´t know how you make it, but everybody seems to like you”. I just smiled. Was wearing 1 drop A314 and 2xIG.

I would sugegst you to get some A314 pray version (it´s cheaper) and also soem IG and give them a try. However, IG is right now out of stock, but will be back soon. If you don´t want to wait, you can give [IG](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) test pack a try: [Instant Gentleman Variant Test Pack :: Experimental Test Mixes :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/). They are different variations of the product, with maybe one ingredient added, so basically they should be the same.

Instant shine is also a great product. It enhances your likeability, makes you feel good and relaxed, and has similar efects in people around. It´s effects do not last as long as A314 or IG´s, but it´s also worth giving a try.

AMMO is an attraction product. It´s basically androstenone, the same [pheromone](https://a314.com/) present in NPA, but it´s buffered with some other things and it´s easier and safer to use. I´ve worn one and even two sprays at teh office without any bad reactions or comments, something that, from what I´ve read, you should not do with NPA.

I would also sugegst you read some of the following threads, if you have not already done it:

[An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003)

[Updated AndroticsDirect Pheromones for newbies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/updated-androticsdirect-pheromones-for-newbies/39802)

[The Snook’s big book o’ pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879)

[What works: CLUBBING/“PROWL” MIXES (eg sex: as in One Night Stands)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-clubbing-prowl-mixes-eg-sex-as-in-one-night-stands/224)

[What works: BUSINESS APPLICATIONS (sales, meetings, etc)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220)

Hope this helps.

Hope this helps.

Talk to you soon.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 10:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/51433/4 "2011-07-26T10:54:46Z")

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> [@jordangoody](#):
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> so, ideas? hows the NPA gonna treat me?

Hi Jordan - Welcome to Pherotalk.

NPA is an intersting phero but not the easiest to use. To get the best out of it, you are going to need to get the hang of accurate mixing in cologne and initially be fairly methodical in finding the dose ranges that work for you.

**Do not apply it straight from the bottle, drop by drop!** - For starters, the NPA dropper is not accurate and its concentration means you are liable to OD every time.

Also its unscented formula means you are liable to stink quickly and it needs to be well mixed with a scent to diffuse properly.

So that said, the following threads have or link you to a lot of info on NPA and how to use it effectively:

> [@I want to know more about NPA....](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/i-want-to-know-more-about-npa/27499):
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> Okay, I will always be a loyal Androtics customer, but I really want to know more about this NPA product from “Love Scent”… I just want to know is it really necessary to mix NPA with other colognes and after shaves?? Can’t I just wear NPA by itself?? Also, can anybody share any good NPA stories about sucessful “hits”?? Thanks all!

> [@How to apply NPA effectively????](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-apply-npa-effectively/27698):
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> Okay, today I experimented with NPA for the first time and my results were not so good. I tried to pour 1 drop on my wrist, but the bottle leaked what I guess was approximately 5 drops all at once. So, I immediately washed off a small amount of NPA. I then smeared some of the remaining NPA all around my wrists. I then applied 3 sprays of MX292 to my wrists… I won’t go into details, but I had really TERRIBLE results with the above mixes while at a fast food restaurant and then at work. So… …

And this thread covers all the basic info on how to use/choose and observe the effects of pheros in general:

> [@An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003):
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> Welcome to an exciting world of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). By joining our community you have taken a HUGE step in progressing a science that is cutting edge and still in its infancy. This community is globally important in recognizing pheromones, and Neuroinfluence Technology ? and their impact on human communication. There are thousands of posts here and thousands more users. Each one of us, including you, adds a unique dynamic to the community from our individual perspectives, experiences and our research an…

Have fun! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-guys/51433/5 "2011-07-28T22:40:44Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Jordan!

I am glad you finally decided to put in your introduction and placed an order. I am not sure if there are a good amount of gay guys on this forum with journals but I hope you start one to assist others and to share your experiences with us.

**Your gc was issued! 😉**
