# hey i need concrete proof plz **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 7, 2009, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-i-need-concrete-proof-plz/34679 "2009-12-07T04:49:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jonnydeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@jonnydeep](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jonnydeep)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-i-need-concrete-proof-plz/34679/1 "2009-12-07T04:49:21Z")
Hello Im just trying to figure out if you guys are serious. Im 22 yrs old and have a pretty decent social life and luck with women . I was sitting here bored at 1130 pm and just clicking on random stuff online and I came across this site. So naturally I have a few questions Are you guys serious about this stuff because it seems like you have to mix cocktails to get minimal results. I am a bit of a party boy so which one(if any) will help me grab more attention there?(at clubs) It seems a shame to shell out money for glorified cologne. I am not trying to annoy anyone but I just need to know. Many people tout snake oil online but you guys have thousands of folks attesting to this so Im inclined to believe that [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are believable but Im just skeptical. Again I sincerly apologise to anyone I might offend with my “ignorance” but I just need to know. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 5:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-i-need-concrete-proof-plz/34679/2 "2009-12-07T05:13:06Z")
Welcome. The only way you’ll know is to try it. The gift cert and the small to-go sizes make testing relatively painless. There’s a post at the top of this forum explaining how to qualify for the gift cert. Basically, tell us about your personality and what you’d like to achieve. With that information you should get some interesting suggestions on where to begin. ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 5:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-i-need-concrete-proof-plz/34679/3 "2009-12-07T05:42:16Z")
Hi there, Welcome. You can read the posts here on the result of pheromones. The pheromones do help but it is not a magic potion. Why don’t you try it yourself to see whether pheromones really work? You can get the $25 gift certificate to purchase the togo bottle to try. To get the gift cert, you got to tell us more about your objective of using pheromones. and who are your targets. Cheers ---
**Author:** ![wes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wes/32/1182_2.png) [@wes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wes)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-i-need-concrete-proof-plz/34679/4 "2009-12-07T05:50:01Z")
hey my name is wes i just joined this forum today and i must say that the people here are very friendly… anyway i must say i still am a little bit skeptical my self but that one guy is right, you wont know until you try it. to me [androticsdirect.com](http://androticsdirect.com) seems like a very legit company because they have this forum (obviously) where regular people like you and me can express freely about the products they sell. they currently have an A- on the BBB (Better Business Burrow) which is very good. they don’t use cruel and shady marketing techniques (unlike all the other “[pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) companies” on the internet in which try and scam you)… in fact i have not found anything about this company scamming people. so i believe these are the real deal products… but i will not know for sure until i have tried them out for my self. but there is nothing to loose because [androticsdirect.com](http://androticsdirect.com) gives you a whole year for a double your money back guarantee if the product does not work… i hope this helps 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 9:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-i-need-concrete-proof-plz/34679/5 "2009-12-07T09:24:35Z")
Please understand, there pheromones for sexual, ltr, respect, feel good, social and so on. If you can tell us your purpose of using pheromones, then we can recommend the right pheromones for you to try. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-i-need-concrete-proof-plz/34679/6 "2009-12-07T10:43:01Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 You do not need to apologize for asking questions of being skeptical. Most of us felt the same way in the beginning. > [@](#): > > Are you guys serious about this stuff because it seems like you have to mix cocktails to get minimal results. Yes were serious, if you look in the consumer line you will see products that are stand alone. You dont need to mix and match to get results. You will find many people who do because its become sort of a fun hobby and they are going for a specific effect. Keep in mind that the consumer products are already mixes. When you see people talking about mixing putatives those are single [pheromone molecules](https://pheromonelabs.com/) that are sold for testing and for making your own mixes. > [@](#): > > I am a bit of a party boy so which one(if any) will help me grab more attention there?(at clubs) My first suggestion would be AMMO but its out of stock. If you give more information on your personality and situation you will get a $25 GC and with that you can get two to-go size bottles free to test out and see what you think before investing anything. I suggest you get TUTH and IO . Use TUTH sparingly because you are young and make a lot of Testosterone on your own. So Use something like 1 spray of TUTH and 3 sprays of IO to buffer it. This is a good mix for parties and clubs. > [@](#): > > It seems a shame to shell out money for glorified cologne. I am not trying to annoy anyone but I just need to know. Many people tout snake oil online but you guys have thousands of folks attesting to this so Im inclined to believe that pheromones are believable but Im just skeptical. > Again I sincerly apologise to anyone I might offend with my “ignorance” but I just need to know. Even in the pheromone world you have people selling snake oil so you have to be careful where you buy products. The products here are effective and definitely not snake oil but you need to learn to use them. Its not as easy as just spraying it on. You need to consider dosage diffusion sillage environment etc etc. That’s why this forum and others like it are good places to explore if your interested in mones. A lot of experienced people using pheromones for many years can give you the ins ands outs of how best to use them. Your question should be… do these products really work like pheromones not if pheromones are real though. Science has known for many years that one of the ways all mammals communicate is through pheromone signaling. We use all 5 senses. Its something we all do naturally from birth when we bond with our parents. Since spraying them on is not natural to us it takes a little research and practice to be able to enhance your natural signature but it definitely works and its fun. So dont feel bad about asking and just jump right in and have fun. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![jonnydeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4bbf92/32.png) [@jonnydeep](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jonnydeep)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-i-need-concrete-proof-plz/34679/7 "2009-12-07T23:49:38Z")
Hope this works:o. Ok so Im a biracial male thats lives alone. .I am 5’9 with a very athletic physique.I have a fairly good job as a pipefitter and that basically governs my life. I don’t think I’ll need 'mones to say get a promotion as that automatically comes with time in my work field. I guess I would like to see if this helps in social situations. I would like for people to gravitate towards me more. Ive tried striking up more conversations and it works fairly well but will this give me say an edge(its not magic I know). Yes I did say I party alot but I also attract older people to me(my best friend is 30 my ex also 30). I know this is an intro but a question I have is :do I give off a pheromone that makes younger people intimidated or distract them and if so is there a 'mone to say mask it? ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-i-need-concrete-proof-plz/34679/8 "2009-12-07T23:58:01Z")
Hey There, Welcome to the forum, Tisha is very experienced and has given you some great things to think about. Having said that if you are intimidating girls at clubs whilst attracting older women perhaps the problem is more to do with your already high androstenone levels. You may find more benefit in using products like Instant Openess and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to Create the young vibrant attitude that will go well with your already (potentially) high levels of the pheromone Androstenone. Shine was the proover for me and I’ve ordered several times from here, so I’m either really stupid or these things work. I’ll let you decide 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-i-need-concrete-proof-plz/34679/9 "2009-12-08T00:01:50Z")
You probably give off a lot of Androstenone which in vast amounts can scare away younger women. A social like IO, CTTM2, or even Spaceland can make you more approachable as it has been said that younger girls are into Alpha Androstenol as seen in the socials I mentioned. Older women are more into higher Androstenone levels that’s why you see a lot of cougars going for the younger guys. > [@jonnydeep](#): > > Hope this works:o. Ok so Im a biracial male thats lives alone. .I am 5’9 with a very athletic physique.I have a fairly good job as a pipefitter and that basically governs my life. I don’t think I’ll need 'mones to say get a promotion as that automatically comes with time in my work field. > I guess I would like to see if this helps in social situations. I would like for people to gravitate towards me more. Ive tried striking up more conversations and it works fairly well but will this give me say an edge(its not magic I know). Yes I did say I party alot but I also attract older people to me(my best friend is 30 my ex also 30). > I know this is an intro but a question I have is :do I give off a pheromone that makes younger people intimidated or distract them and if so is there a 'mone to say mask it?