# Hey kind people

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-kind-people/59422>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [June 25, 2013, 7:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-kind-people/59422 "2013-06-25T07:26:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 12:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-kind-people/59422/7 "2013-06-26T12:16:42Z")

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That’s a very tricky question, Minie. A314 is certainly not a unisex product, but many women are annoyed that there isn’t a female version. So some women have gotten creative. I believe a user named Silly Kitty laid the groundwork for experimenting with it. The main problem is that A314 on its own can be very rough, masculine, and intimidating. Some women have experienced ghosting when wearing it straight. Others have reported that people are afraid of or hostile to them.

In order for a woman to wear it, it would need to be highly buffered by feminine and social pheros. It has been suggested that A314b be used in small amounts when used with a base of straight TAL and a few other steering mones.

Some women have tried to create their own female version from scratch, using TAL as a base, and adding other pheros to steer it.

Here are two threads to get you started: [Equivalent to A314 for Girls - #4 by Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/equivalent-to-a314-for-girls/58318/4)

> [@Interview for a VP position](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/interview-for-a-vp-position/59048/11):
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> How do you think that might translate for a female mix? Could it be effective as-is or might it need to include TAL?

If you want to experiment with either a female equivalent to A314 or a way for women to wear it, I would be thrilled to hear about your experiences!

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