# Hey there! Pheromones for Attraction, to Help End the cycle of being The Friend. M/32 **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 5, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there-pheromones-for-attraction-to-help-end-the-cycle-of-being-the-friend-m-32/66833 "2017-01-05T01:55:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheExecutive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@TheExecutive](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheExecutive)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there-pheromones-for-attraction-to-help-end-the-cycle-of-being-the-friend-m-32/66833/1 "2017-01-05T01:55:12Z")
Hey, everyone! I’m a 32 year old male. Pretty much my entire life, I’ve been the shy, quiet introvert. I’ve only had one serious girlfriend my entire life (yes you read that age right). Partially, I blame my social failings on the fact that I’m deaf in one ear, which makes it hard to follow conversations in a loud, social setting. When the group looks to me to weigh in on the topic, I can’t, because I didn’t hear what the topic was. So frustrating. Despite this, I’ve actually gotten very good at faking extrovertedness - making jokes and being the resident funny guy around the office to hide the fact I can’t think of anything interesting to say, conversationally. I’m a tall and decent-looking homeowner with a great career, strong income, perfect credit, and no kids. Pretty much everything a woman in her late 20’s-early 30’s should want (ha!) but I haven’t had much luck in that department. I haven’t had much trouble making friends. The women that gravitate to me tend to be already taken - only looking for a sweet “guy friend” they can vent to about their loser boyfriends. I read up on [pheromones](https://a314.com/) years and years ago. They sounded interesting to me, but I didn’t want to take the chance their benefits could be nothing but a placebo effect. Now, after my third rejection in a row, I don’t care if it IS a placebo. I’m really willing to try just about anything at this point to give myself the best possible chance at ending the cycle of being the “friend”. I’m keeping an open mind. I look forward to seeing any results. I’ve already picked up a bottle of Ammo and it’s on the way. Being the nerd I am, I thoroughly researched the forum and beyond to find out which pheromone gave the most obvious hits. The consensus seemed to be Ammo so I went with that. I’m more than willing to try any other combinations or products you all might suggest. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there-pheromones-for-attraction-to-help-end-the-cycle-of-being-the-friend-m-32/66833/2 "2017-01-05T02:10:15Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum. I understand the deafness thing although mine is not as bad as yours. Mine is environmental but I have a hell of a time following my wife’s voice/conversation in similar environments. It is very frustrating. OTOH I am not shy at all. I might be quiet to get the lay of the land in a new situation, but shy, no. I think you have chosen a great first product. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is just the thing to let the ladies know you are interested in friendship PLUS in a polite but straightforward fashion. Being friendly but not too aggressive can be a fine line sometime, and Ammo is a great tool to help you do that. And reading up on everything isn’t nerdy as much as it is smart. Please let us know if there is anything we can do to help. bosshank ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there-pheromones-for-attraction-to-help-end-the-cycle-of-being-the-friend-m-32/66833/3 "2017-01-05T03:35:59Z")
Hello TheExecutive, welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear about your streak of (bad) luck. But there’s always hope, especially now that you’ve come here. Ammo is a good choice indeed. If you want to be convinced of pheromones, a good product is ammo, and also [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). IH is a good one too because once you start hearing people wanting to confide in you or reveal deep stuff or just plain babble, you’ll be amazed. However none of this stuff is magic potion so don’t get your hopes up too much. And it takes a bit of testing to find your ’ sweet spot’. As for wanting to be taken away from the friendzone factor so women can see you for the catch that you are, you can use A314 or IG. This will tend to give you the appearance of a man who is perfect for settling down with. A man who’s a responsible and committed man. TUTH can be a good one too but it’s not recommended to use during daytime use or in otherwise normal public settings, at least not until one is quite familiar with it and knows how to make mixes with it that compliment it and buffer it.. but that isn’t a newbie thing to focus on. I think your choice of ammo is a good start. If anything, some A314 could be good too and IS to accompany the ammo. ---
**Author:** ![TheExecutive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@TheExecutive](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheExecutive)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there-pheromones-for-attraction-to-help-end-the-cycle-of-being-the-friend-m-32/66833/4 "2017-01-05T04:58:17Z")
Thanks bossshank and Jdub for the comments and advice! I’m definitely not expecting some type of magic potion. But I’d also like to see even some small, albeit noticeable, improvement - or reaction. Perhaps “reaction” is the better word to use. Silly question, I’m sure, but I’m extremely tall - just under 7 feet. Do things such as body type/size affect how much to use and where on the body to use it? ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there-pheromones-for-attraction-to-help-end-the-cycle-of-being-the-friend-m-32/66833/5 "2017-01-05T05:32:45Z")
I wouldn’t say it should affect it too much. I’ve never heard of this being an issue. I suppose if you spray on your neck and you’re like 2 feet higher than some chick perhaps the mones will hit her differently, fall on her..? I guess.. I’d imagine your cloud might be more effective that way. The only thing I can think of is if you generally have more surface area of body you might produce slightly more natural mones. But I don’t know how that would translate, perhaps you’d need a little more product for effects. Honestly though I think it would be negligible. ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there-pheromones-for-attraction-to-help-end-the-cycle-of-being-the-friend-m-32/66833/6 "2017-01-05T11:59:42Z")
Welcome to PheromoneTalk, TheExecutive! Your GC is now in your email. 🙂 Great starting point, the AMMO. But I hope this GC would really push you to get a bottle of IShine and CTTM2 to back you up in the social interactions and the healthy, happy vibe departments. It’s not important to be sexy alone if they can’t view your oozing happy to be with vibe and an approachable aura. Besides, those two would help you cope up in case a rejection comes along with the interactions. You will remain in the happy zone and if it started to infect the other girls around, they will begin to see you in a different light. For the applications, I think you should check this: [Application points 101: a guide to where on the body to apply pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101/53343) On a more personal note, I think you should be more honest with yourself too, specially about your condition. You should consider medical help too to help you in coping up with the environment you are in. I know you are a survivor and you’ve been creative enough to put that issue behind the drawer and get yourself into a nice job with nice set of friends. But if you are looking for a good relationship with a woman who can love and take care of you at the same time, I think you should transform that disability into your strength. You can use it to inspire others, and maybe, thru it you can find the girl who is just suited for your kind love. 🙂 Back to mones, if your body is now in tune with IShine, and the shyness is now gone, you can begin tinkering with either IG or A314 to change your status vibe for good. 🙂 Happy Pheroing! 🙂 =========== _ **Disclosure:** I’ve edited your thread title from **“Hey there! Lifelong shy and quiet guy who’s tired of socially faking it. M/32”** to **“Hey there! [Pheromones for Attraction](https://a314.com/product-category/sensual-pheromones/), to Help End the cycle of being The Friend. M/32”** for topic clarity and forum readability. It’ll also generate more “reads” to your thread. If you want to opt-out simply let me know. Thank you!_ ---
**Author:** ![TheExecutive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@TheExecutive](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheExecutive)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there-pheromones-for-attraction-to-help-end-the-cycle-of-being-the-friend-m-32/66833/7 "2017-01-06T00:49:33Z")
Thanks for the GC and the info! That application points thread is a big help. Is IShine primarily for self-effects, or is it 50/50? ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there-pheromones-for-attraction-to-help-end-the-cycle-of-being-the-friend-m-32/66833/8 "2017-01-06T01:32:26Z")
Definotely 50/50. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there-pheromones-for-attraction-to-help-end-the-cycle-of-being-the-friend-m-32/66833/9 "2017-01-07T16:05:17Z")
Welcome TheExecutive, Great choice with Ammo! What I would do for right now is test the Ammo solo and find your best dose which should be somewhere in the 2-4 spray range. I would do this for right now since you will have the product anytime. You picked the very first one to start with so this is perfect. Now when you are ready to make an order and to go with what you have I would look into the socials. IO should be one of the ones to look into. This is an icebreaker and will help open people right up to you. Since you are very tall I would consider putting this one more on your wrists because your hands might be closer to your targets nose. Maybe like 1 spray on your throat and 1/2 spray each wrist I am thinking would be perfect to spread this mone around. My next one to compliment what you have will be IShine. You can not go wrong with this one as it goes with everything and every environment. Will boost your confidence and put everyone in a great mood. If anything else I would get these 2 socials to go with what you have. Also a bottle of TUTH is handy to have around also. TUTH is highly sexual and this one is best used last in the process of attracting women and when a woman is more comfortable with you. A little goes a long way. Whatever you do use the Ammo to start instead of this one as TUTH to start can be perceived as coming on to strong and may scare her away. The key with it is to build up to it. I think these would compliment the Ammo really well. What I would do is look in Jdub’s signature block at Mix 1 and Mix 2 and you will find some really incredible results with attracting women and think this is right up your ally. I hope you check out that mix 1 and 2 as I think you will be quite shocked on how well they work. Good luck and if I can help you out in anyway please let me know! ---
**Author:** ![TheExecutive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@TheExecutive](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheExecutive)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there-pheromones-for-attraction-to-help-end-the-cycle-of-being-the-friend-m-32/66833/10 "2017-01-07T18:44:42Z")
Thanks everyone! Ammo arrived a few days ago. After about a day and a half I haven’t seen any obvious hits, aside from a slight possible hit yesterday where a conversation with a 28 y/o female co-worker lasted a bit longer than usual. I used 2.5 sprays on this day, around the neck/chest area. IShine and CTTM2 arrived in the mail today, perhaps after adding those, the hits may become more obvious.