# Hey there! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [October 28, 2013, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338 "2013-10-28T08:44:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ID1701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ID1701](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ID1701)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/1 "2013-10-28T08:44:03Z")
Hey everyone I’m Ian, a 27 year old male, and am looking forward to trying this out. I plan on getting Instant Shine as a starter, I would like to get others but I wouldn’t mind some opinions first. I am going to be going on job interviews soon and would like something to help with the process, does anyone have any recommendations? Perhaps [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) or Openness? Also I was thinking about some Turn Up The Heat but I’m gay, would this work for me? Is there another phero that would be more appropriate? ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/2 "2013-10-28T09:59:55Z")
Welcome to the forum! Mind telling us how you found out about pheromonetalk? Also, what sort of jobs are you going to be interviewing for? That could play a roll in what type of approach you’ll want to take… Instant Shine is a popular starter, as it works very well for a lot of people. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is a great ice breaker… so if you’re looking to start conversations and get people to open up, then it’s perfect. However, at a job interview, you’ll likely already be conversing, so the idea would be to solidify the image that you’re respectable and trustworthy (hireable). So the first product that comes to mind is a314. It says status/respect/trust all in one. Add to that Instant Honesty, and it deepens the rapport and trustworthiness even more. Check out the a314 sprays a and b… sprays hit harder and faster than the oil, and they’re also available in 5ml to-go bottles. A is slightly more potent. I haven’t done much reading on the effects of certain mones on gay men, but logic tells me they’ll work the same regardless. With TUTH, you want to make yourself more sexually desireable, so that will work with straight woman as well as gay men. I urge you to do some reading and browsing. Check out the sticky threads at the top of the Men’s forum, and use the Search tool to focus in on products that have worked well for your sexual orientation. Post back with your thoughts and any other questions! ---
**Author:** ![ID1701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ID1701](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ID1701)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/3 "2013-10-28T10:42:17Z")
Hey there shark, thanks for getting back to me, I actually have known about this site for quite a while. About 4 years ago in college I had a friend who introduced me to phero’s from this site, I tried some of his instant shine a couple of times and noticed that my friends seemed a little friendlier to me. I haven’t given it much thought since then, but now that I’m on the job hunt I thought that it might give me a edge and in this economy you need any help you can get. As for jobs i’m looking for, I’m hoping for an office job but ideally not in sales, I had an i.t. background so social skills are generally considered unnecessary, but I want to come across as accessible and confident as possible. Frankly I have a hard time being open with people and was hoping that the phero might effect me as well as the interviewer. I’ve read that the a314 is good for business purposes but unfortunetly it is out of stock right now, not to mention that it is considerably more expensive than the other pheros. I realize that this is probably a “you get what you pay for” deal but I was hoping to try this out with a minimum of start up costs. That’s why I was asking about the openness and honesty. I’ve done some research on the gay phero issue and as far as I can tell gay men are attracted to the same male phero’s as straight females, I feel TUTH is probably what I will go with but was wondering if there are any gay users here that could give me their take. I have tried searching the forums here but haven’t really gotten any definitive answer. Looks like I might just have to give it a try and find out for myself. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/4 "2013-10-28T10:46:19Z")
> [@ID1701](#): > > Hey everyone I’m Ian, a 27 year old male, and am looking forward to trying this out. I plan on getting Instant Shine as a starter, I would like to get others but I wouldn’t mind some opinions first. > > I am going to be going on job interviews soon and would like something to help with the process, does anyone have any recommendations? Perhaps Instant Honesty or Openness? > > Also I was thinking about some Turn Up The Heat but I’m gay, would this work for me? Is there another phero that would be more appropriate? Have a look here: [The Killer Pheromone Newbie Kit :: Spray Pheromones :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/) ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/5 "2013-10-28T10:47:00Z")
Hello and welcome to the forums! I had an elaborate post for you but in vanished… [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is my #1 favorite, it’s a great first choice. As far as being a gay pheromone user I can’t comment and there aren’t a lot of threads around that I recall seeing however the most recent journal I’ve found is [Another Gay Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-gay-journal/58141) ---
**Author:** ![ID1701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ID1701](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ID1701)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/6 "2013-10-28T10:49:32Z")
Interesting I didn’t see that on the store before, I may have to consider that one. It would give me a good idea of what they are all like individually. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/7 "2013-10-28T10:54:15Z")
> [@ID1701](#): > > Interesting I didn’t see that on the store before, I may have to consider that one. It would give me a good idea of what they are all like individually. I would also recommend buying TAH 12.5mcg/spray and experiment with that as well. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/8 "2013-10-28T10:55:26Z")
As for the job bit, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and mayhap Alpha A314 should serve you well (along with the IS). The beginner’s kit is a great first buy and worth checking out as previously mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![ID1701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ID1701](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ID1701)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/9 "2013-10-28T10:59:47Z")
> [@still18](#): > > I would also recommend buying TAH 12.5mcg/spray and experiment with that as well. Still18 would you mind telling me what kind of effects this one gives you? The store page doesn’t say anything and there are no reviews for it. Why would this be good for me? ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/10 "2013-10-28T11:07:05Z")
> [@ID1701](#): > > Still18 would you mind telling me what kind of effects this one gives you? The store page doesn’t say anything and there are no reviews for it. Why would this be good for me? > [@what do TAL and TAH do exacltly?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-do-tal-and-tah-do-exacltly/53402): > > I can’t seem to find any threads about these two [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and what they do exactly. I found plenty saying that they mixed it with other mones but I can not find any where someone reported using exclusively TAL or TAH, I did find out that TAA was really good for charisma. Has anyone ever tried using TAH or TAL solo? If so can you report here and tell me what you experienced? Post 2 and 3 in that thread ^ are 2 of the most knowledgeable people on here explaining TAH ---
**Author:** ![ID1701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ID1701](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ID1701)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 11:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/11 "2013-10-28T11:13:23Z")
Interesting, but it doesn’t sound like it’s for me. I know it says it can be used for males as well, but I really don’t see the need for any feminine qualities in my pheros. I don’t see myself as a marylin monroe. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 11:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/12 "2013-10-28T11:14:56Z")
> [@ID1701](#): > > Interesting, but it doesn’t sound like it’s for me. I know it says it can be used for males as well, but I really don’t see the need for any feminine qualities in my pheros. I don’t see myself as a marylin monroe. I suggest you get the kit, experiment with things 1 product at a time, start a journal on here in the appropriate section and go from there. I’d include gay in the journal subject too so that others might find it easier. It would be a nice contribution to the community. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 11:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/13 "2013-10-28T11:24:22Z")
> [@ID1701](#): > > Still18 would you mind telling me what kind of effects this one gives you? The store page doesn’t say anything and there are no reviews for it. Why would this be good for me? I’m not gay but have experimented a lot with TAH, alone it is too weak and soft, and on a woman it is different, that is why some say it resembles Marilyn Monroe. However on a man when using it with AMMO for example it increases approachability, lowers intimidation and it will increase chances of guys complementing you and hit on you when they like you, if that is what you want. It is slightly feminine and gay men will know your gay. That is how I experienced it working as a gay men attractant when combining it with masculine products, and the beauty is you can go heavy on the AMMO sprays and still come across as gay. ---
**Author:** ![ID1701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ID1701](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ID1701)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 11:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/14 "2013-10-28T11:58:15Z")
> [@still18](#): > > I’m not gay but have experimented a lot with TAH, alone it is too weak and soft, and on a woman it is different, that is why some say it resembles Marilyn Monroe. However on a man when using it with AMMO for example it increases approachability, lowers intimidation and it will increase chances of guys complementing you and hit on you when they like you, if that is what you want. It is slightly feminine and gay men will know your gay. That is how I experienced it working as a gay men attractant when combining it with masculine products, and the beauty is you can go heavy on the AMMO sprays and still come across as gay. Thanks for replying, i’ll keep it in mind. Although i’m not really sure that’s for me. Gay guys can always “detect” other gays anyway. I don’t really want others to see me as femme. Just a question, do you prefer ammo to tuth? Is ammo better for meeting people in your opinion? ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 12:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/15 "2013-10-28T12:01:51Z")
> [@ID1701](#): > > Thanks for replying, i’ll keep it in mind. Although i’m not really sure that’s for me. Gay guys can always “detect” other gays anyway. I don’t really want others to see me as femme. Just a question, do you prefer ammo to tuth? Is ammo better for meeting people in your opinion? I prefer AMMO for attraction and meeting people, TUTH is straight up sexual, as I want sex now. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/16 "2013-10-28T12:02:33Z")
> [@ID1701](#): > > Gay guys can always “detect” other gays anyway. I don’t really want others to see me as femme. If that’s the case why do I get hit on ALL THE TIME by guys when “I’m so straight I eat my hot dogs from the middle” heh. ---
**Author:** ![ID1701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ID1701](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ID1701)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 12:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/17 "2013-10-28T12:08:31Z")
> [@ryanmercer](#): > > If that’s the case why do I get hit on ALL THE TIME by guys when “I’m so straight I eat my hot dogs from the middle” heh. Lol. It’s possible the pheros are messing up my peoples gaydar. Gay men and women are attracted to the same things after all and masculinity is very attractive. Also there are some bad gays that think that if they try hard enough they can convert a straight guy, which is just silly. ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 12:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/18 "2013-10-28T12:09:46Z")
> [@ID1701](#): > > Lol. It’s possible the pheros are messing up my peoples gaydar. Gay men and women are attracted to the same things after all and masculinity is very attractive. Also there are some bad gays that think that if they try hard enough they can convert a straight guy, which is just silly. It’s my pinky rings, and the fact I hang out at a breakfast place that is owned and staffed by some of the biggest queens in the world haha. It was a trick question 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ID1701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ID1701](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ID1701)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 12:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/19 "2013-10-28T12:23:00Z")
> [@ryanmercer](#): > > It’s my pinky rings, and the fact I hang out at a breakfast place that is owned and staffed by some of the biggest queens in the world haha. It was a trick question 🙂 Well then, I guess you got me. Tricky straights. Btw, have you noticed an upturn in gay guys hitting on you after you started using the pheros? Or is it just par for the course? ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338/20 "2013-10-28T13:15:23Z")
> [@ID1701](#): > > Well then, I guess you got me. Tricky straights. Btw, have you noticed an upturn in gay guys hitting on you after you started using the pheros? Or is it just par for the course? No, it’s stayed the same. I don’t wear the mostly-sexual ones out in public though unless I’m already going on a date. I more use [pheromones](https://a314.com/) for social purposes, using the sexual-toned ones when i’m going out with a girl. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey-there/60338.md?page=2)