# Hey!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [March 8, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419 "2007-03-08T23:29:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2007, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/1 "2007-03-08T23:29:40Z")

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OK, well, I’m a frustrated 18 year old college student.  
I haven’t had a girlfriend more than once in my life.  
Sex, yap, only once.  
I’m dissapointed with myself and feel like I’m missing out on A LOT!  
Socially, I have many guy friends and attract people easily, maybe due to my looks? I’m not saying I’m super hot but I’m not ugly. (8.2 on hotornot…?)  
I got a baby face thing going and am not super slim, more like atheltic build with some fat 😉.  
I can post pics or what not.  
Anywayz, I’ve been struggling with ladies.  
I don’t really have girl friends like to hang out with, etc. and generally act totally wierd around girls until i’m with them for an extended period of time, after which I become “really cool”  
But… I sort of came across the whole fast seduction thing and have been placing myself at an alpha mindset, which hasn’t really turned out all that good.  
You see, girls notice me and what not, I don’t know what it is about my confidence, etc. but I don’t approach and rarely say anything. ☹  
I don’t see why society has it that guys always have to approach, why don’t girls do this as often? Doesn’t really make sense.  
Which is why I turned to [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/)…  
I purchased pherlure and received it earlier this week. I’ve worn it almost every day now, 2 sprays max per day and have had NO results.  
What I’m looking to achieve is when I go to bars/clubs/parties I wanna be able to get that one-night-stand thing.  
While I’m in class or on the bus ride or what not… to get that boyfriend status thing.  
Which combos are these?  
ANy assistance would be SUPER SUPER SUPER appreciated!  
I’m soo dissapointed with pherlure… after all this hype… NADA.

BTW, question for college students who’ve been to many frat parties, etc. I haven’t had a high success rate at getting dances (grinding) and have noticed that sometimes girls make the first move. I see guys lined up against the walls and then girls just get up and grind.. how does this work? What do they do? Is is their natural pheromone levels, or what?

THANKS for your time guys!

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2007, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/2 "2007-03-08T23:58:53Z")

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Hi smn1234,

Welcome to the forum, and I think I know what your problem is.

First off, pheros are not a magic weapon to get you laid and be wildly popular. You have to be _congruent_. This means that if your pheromones are giving off the sexy alpha animal vibe, and you’re sticking to the shadows with a whipped puppy look on your face in a social situation, you’re not going to get anywhere.

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> I don’t see why society has it that guys always have to approach, why don’t girls do this as often? Doesn’t really make sense.

I don’t know either. Some say it’s social conditioning. Others say, “It’s evolutionary psychology.” Women attract, men act. That’s the way it works, except in exceptional circumstances. If you wait for them, you’ll be waiting a long time.

> [@](#):
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> BTW, question for college students who’ve been to many frat parties, etc. I haven’t had a high success rate at getting dances (grinding) and have noticed that sometimes girls make the first move. I see guys lined up against the walls and then girls just get up and grind..

Girls are just more social than guys. If they’re expected to dance, most of them will do just that. Guys are handicapped by the belief that dancing is a sissy thing to do. At least, they are in this neck of the woods.

Laugh at the conditioning. Learn to dance if you really want to get into the groove at parties. I am, and the girls dig guys who know how to dance. They seem to like it even more if you’re honest, admit you’re still a novice and still learning. They’ll offer to teach you, a conversation gets going, and you’re halfway there. I’ve had a few hits already, and that’s without the pheros.

OK, recommendations. Start easy and go for the social pheros first. Some have sexual vibes in certain situations. Instant Shine for instance. Maybe [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). Ammunition has a nice blend of the social and sexual. It’s the all-round choice.

Avoid Turn Up The Heat for a beginner. Just my opinion. It has timing issues in that it only seems to work on a girl at a certain point in her hormonal cycle. She has to be ovulating or close to it for Turn Up The Heat to work.

Good luck

Musk

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2007, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/3 "2007-03-09T00:40:24Z")

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No, I certainly know how to dance. My problem is if I stand around like the other guys up against a wall, I don’t get a girl comin at me like they do, for some reason… and otherwise I don’t know how to approach for a dance or w/e.

For the recommendation, what can I expect and in what combinations do I need to apply them?

Thanks again for your time!

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2007, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/4 "2007-03-09T01:06:40Z")

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you dont need to know how to dance.

most of the hot chicks i know (yes, i have friends ALL ages. 21 and older, i tend bar) make a bee line for the guy who isnt afraid to be silly/daring/make an ass of himself.

i dont mean go do something silly.

the difference i see with the hot guys and the NOt-hot guys isnt that one has anything over the other at all.

the only difference is that the hot guy had someone _somewhere_ _along the line_ make him believe he was hot and he could do no wrong.

the other guy…  
well, he has yet to believe he has it going on.

thats it.

with that said,IH or IO with a kiss of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/).

have fun with it and dont over think it.😉

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2007, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/5 "2007-03-09T01:59:54Z")

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Thanks!!!  
I forgot to add I have a bunch of colognes right now…  
Abercrombie: Fierce  
some Burberry  
etc.

What do I do with these?  
And… should I just toss pherlure at this point!?

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2007, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/6 "2007-03-09T04:13:44Z")

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Yes take Lor’s advice, I’m silly as hell, looks and dancing yet I do have lots of fun. Believe in yourself.

GO to top of page click on the Mystery Method and buy it. You get $40? bucks back from Androtics for product. Win-win situation.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2007, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/7 "2007-03-09T05:27:21Z")

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> [@smn1234](#):
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> Thanks!!!  
> I forgot to add I have a bunch of colognes right now…  
> Abercrombie: Fierce  
> some Burberry  
> etc.
> 
> What do I do with these?  
> And… should I just toss pherlure at this point!?

no dont toss it out.

you may eventually refer to it for contrast 😉

your colognes will come in handy when you want to cover something that has a stronger scent.

not especially necessary with the instant line 🙂  
steveo’s posts will helpful to you in the men’s forum

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2007, 5:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/8 "2007-03-09T05:30:18Z")

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> [@steveo](#):
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> Yes take Lor’s advice, I’m silly as hell, looks and dancing yet I do have lots of fun. Believe in yourself.
> 
> GO to top of page click on the Mystery Method and buy it. You get $40? bucks back from Androtics for product. Win-win situation.

wow,steveo, i didnt know there was an incentive!  
around 40$ ?  
heard it was popular.

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2007, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/9 "2007-03-09T07:22:06Z")

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I can’t find the link to Mystery Method but appreciate the suggestion. Could you guys further instruct me where to go?  
Furthermore, I was wondering, if there are any specials/deals available on these sites? I’m really tight, budget-wise, as I’m an (out of state) college student ☹…  
If it will REALLY give results then I’ll certainly pay for it.. but I can’t really afford to gamble ☹

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/10 "2007-03-09T18:34:07Z")

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OK.. I wore pherlure to a club last night… very very minimal effects…  
I had this one asian girl who did not stop starin at me, then she pinched my ass while I was on the dance floor… wtf…  
and when I stood by the walls I did have a lot of girls gather round me a lot and sorta rub up against me… idk if it’s definetly the pherlure for sure…

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2007, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/11 "2007-03-09T23:04:05Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> wow,steveo, i didnt know there was an incentive!  
> around 40$ ?  
> heard it was popular.

Yeah that’s what I read in a post in the lounge a while back. It’s a shame that I bought mine well before joining here. It still was well worth all $68 I spent.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2007, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/12 "2007-03-09T23:05:38Z")

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> [@smn1234](#):
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> I can’t find the link to Mystery Method but appreciate the suggestion. Could you guys further instruct me where to go?  
> Furthermore, I was wondering, if there are any specials/deals available on these sites? I’m really tight, budget-wise, as I’m an (out of state) college student ☹…  
> If it will REALLY give results then I’ll certainly pay for it.. but I can’t really afford to gamble ☹

If you take his advice and work it then yes it works. It’s up to you to apply it though.

The link is right here The Mystery Method

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2007, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/13 "2007-03-10T01:36:41Z")

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Ammo is outta stock.. and damn… 40\*3 = 120… ☹ -$15 is $105 ☹

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 7:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/14 "2007-03-11T07:45:19Z")

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One more question.. should I stay away from Turn Up The Heat?

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2007, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/15 "2007-03-11T18:17:40Z")

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> [@smn1234](#):
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> One more question.. should I stay away from Turn Up The Heat?

At your age you are producing enough -none. You don’t need it so if you are trying to budget than leave it out.

You should try the to go sizes: [check them out here](https://a314.com/)

They are smaller in size (about 40 sprays compared to 200 of full size) and as such they are great to trial the products and won’t set you back too much cash.

Good luck and ask as many questions as you need too.

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/16 "2007-03-14T00:05:31Z")

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Wow! My order SHIPPED! Can’t wait to try this stuff out 🙂 I just hope I won’t be dissapointed…

I got Instant Openness, Ammo, and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). Good choices?

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**Author:** ![Atilla-the-Fun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f04885/32.png) [@Atilla-the-Fun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Atilla-the-Fun)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/17 "2007-03-14T04:12:26Z")

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Hi, I am new here as well! Can’t tell you anything about pheromones yet. Will be experimenting myself. I can tell you however, that you’re not going to get asked to dance standing along the wall. If you can dance and you said you could ] just walk up to a young lady at your party and ask her. Keep trying , one will say yes. Once all the girls know that you can, and like to dance, you won’t get a break. They’ll seek you out at parties. I had a couple of friends that were very good dancers, but average looking guys. When we went out, they barely had time for a beer. Every time they sat down, another woman would try to get them to dance. Let the other guys hang on the wall. You meet the ladies! Best of luck to you.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2007, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/18 "2007-03-14T15:04:44Z")

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> [@smn1234](#):
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> Wow! My order SHIPPED! Can’t wait to try this stuff out 🙂 I just hope I won’t be dissapointed…
> 
> I got Instant Openness, Ammo, and Instant Female Magic. Good choices?

Excellent Choices

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**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 7:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/2419/19 "2007-03-22T07:11:02Z")

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Wow… I’m thinking I shoulda done fedex overnight…
