# Hey! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 10, 2009, 5:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724 "2009-01-10T05:37:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rolyatmcd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@rolyatmcd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolyatmcd)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 5:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/1 "2009-01-10T05:37:00Z")
I’m Taylor, I’m a girl, I’m 19 and I live in upstate New York. I’m kinda nervous about asking this since I haven’t been able to gouge how people would react but…I was wondering how I would go about it if i wanted to attract other girls… i read up on the site yesterday a lot and a little bit today and I couldn’t find anything about this. I mean, I want to use the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) meant for women because, well, I’m a woman. But I don’t want men coming up to me and randomly hitting on me or wanting to talk. That happens enough as it is where I work. -\_- and they’re creepy too. I apparently attract creepy men… anyways…But I also want to use the pheromones meant for men because they’re directed more towards what i want. But I don’t want women to randomly hit on/talk to me either because there’s a good chance they’ll just be doing it because of the pheromone, realize what they’re doing, and then freak out… And I mean, I don’t want them to be sexually attracted to me. I’m extremely shy if I don’t know you so I have trouble talking to people. I just want them to talk to me right now. The point is I’m not sure which pheromones I should be looking at. I guess that’s the best I can explain it. I’ll be grateful to anyone who can help me. ---
**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/2 "2009-01-10T05:51:10Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum!!! 🙂 I am also from update new york, and getting ready for this snow we are getting here tomorrow!! Although I dont know much about girl seeking girl pheromones, I can atleast try to help you out with your social issue. Being extremely shy you want to look into instant shine and instant openness. Instant shine will give you the confidence you need to chat with anyone, know them or not, and instant openness will help for your chatter. Hopefully someone that knows more about girl/girl pheromones can swing by and offer some advice.. Feel free to ask any other Q’s you have, other than that, stay warm.. If you wanna help shovel my driveway tomorrow, send me a PM 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rolyatmcd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@rolyatmcd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolyatmcd)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/3 "2009-01-10T06:13:35Z")
Hi! yay! an upstater! lol ugh, I dunno how I feel about that snow. I’m supposed to go into the city sunday. ☹ Thanks for the info. I’ll check those two out. You stay warm too! And I’d love to help you but no one salts/plows(well) the roads around where I live so there’s a good chance I wont be able to even go to work -\_- ---
**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/4 "2009-01-10T06:53:27Z")
I imagine your going into the city with a bunch of friends to watch chargers destroy the steelers (or so i wish in my own little world!!) Sorry I couldnt help a ton with the girl/girl pheromones, but if ya change your mind and think ya might want to go after some guys, ill just send ya my way.. no sence in getting pheromones!! haha j/k maybe kinda sorta hope the snow doesnt ruin your weekend!! ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/5 "2009-01-10T15:12:34Z")
Hi Rolyatmcd: Welcome to the forum! I think the questions you are asking are largely unresearched. Human pheromones in general are understudied, and their role in girl/girl or boy/boy attraction even more so. Maybe try to look at it as an adventure. I’ll bet the Androtics folks will be happy to hear reports of your experiments. I would suggest starting out with some of the basic women’s products: [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/), instant shine, instant honest, instant openness. These are to a certain degree gender neutral, since people also use them to help in non-sexual socializing with both genders, and the shine, honesty, and openness are the same formulation for men and women. If you get some experience with these, you could start trying the effects of other products including some of the mens perhaps (there are straight women here who experiment with these as well). Are you attracted to women who are “feminine” in the traditional sense, or women who are more divergent from that? And what about your personality? ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/6 "2009-01-10T15:19:08Z")
Oh, and I’m not sure you can stop men from being attracted to you, given that you are young and female 🙂. I can guarantee you that your introduction caught the guys attention around here; lots of guys have fantasies involving girl/girl action… But the products I mentioned are not going to make men lose control or anything. Especially since you probably have other non-verbal cues telling them you are not interested. Now, if you start experimenting with copulins, you want to be careful in terms of wearing them around strange men. Although it would be interesting to know if copulins are attractive to gay women (anyone know?). ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/7 "2009-01-10T17:58:50Z")
> [@xev](#): > > Oh, and I’m not sure you can stop men from being attracted to you, given that you are young and female 🙂. I can guarantee you that your introduction caught the guys attention around here; lots of guys have fantasies involving girl/girl action… > > But the products I mentioned are not going to make men lose control or anything. Especially since you probably have other non-verbal cues telling them you are not interested. > > Now, if you start experimenting with copulins, you want to be careful in terms of wearing them around strange men. Although it would be interesting to know if copulins are attractive to gay women (anyone know?). Welcome to the forum Taylor! This is a very interesting thread! I’m looking forward to hearing about other members advice on this, I’m sure you’ll find there are others here who have experimented with phero’s for girl-girl or guy-guy effects. I agree with Xev as well: just give it a go & see what happens. The social phero’s are great for confidence boosting & just generally “making you shine”…and that’s never a bad thing if you ask me. Being confident, happy & approachable always helps when trying to get noticed 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![rolyatmcd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@rolyatmcd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolyatmcd)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/8 "2009-01-10T22:31:10Z")
MikeMan: lol, sorry. I don’t think that’s gonna be happening. Hope the snow doesn’t ruin your weekend either! Xev: Thanks for the info! I tend to be more attracted to “feminine” girls. I’m never good at describing my personality : o( Like I said above, I’m extremely quiet if I’m not good friends with someone. I can be really sarcastic at times. I’m _extremely_ protective of people I really care about. I dress kind of punk/rockish, I guess would be the term to describe it, but can dress girlie when I want/need to. I act really girlie at times though, even though I don’t really dress it. Does that help at all? Xiphoid: Thanks! Soooo..until those other people come forward with info (if there are other people) I’m the new guinea pig? 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/9 "2009-01-10T23:10:26Z")
Hello Taylor, Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 I know your nervous but I have to ask, Are you straight, Bi or a lesbian ? At this point I am not quite sure and without that information its hard to direct you to the best products for you. Dont worry we wont judge, this forum is filled with open minded people. > [@](#): > > But I don’t want men coming up to me and randomly hitting on me or wanting to talk. Most mones will attract or effect both genders in some way so its really impossible to suggest mixes that will stop this. > [@](#): > > But I also want to use the pheromones meant for men because they’re directed more towards what i want. But I don’t want women to randomly hit on/talk to me either because there’s a good chance they’ll just be doing it because of the pheromone, realize what they’re doing, and then freak out… There is no chance that any women or man would guess you are using synthetic mones unless of course you tell them. Mones work on the subconsious mind. They will receive the signals mones send and react to the feeling they evoke. To the target they process it as natural feelings. Keep in mind mones will not make someone do something they do not want to. They are just one small part of attraction as a whole. They give you a edge but do not make interaction with others effortless. You still have to make the effort mones just make it easier and more productive. > [@](#): > > And I mean, I don’t want them to be sexually attracted to me. > I’m extremely shy if I don’t know you so I have trouble talking to people. I just want them to talk to me right now. This is what has thrown me. Not that there is something wrong with not wanting sexual attraction but it made me unsure of your sexual orientation or if you just looking to increase friendships with women. I will give general suggestions for now… If you are Gay and looking to attract other gay or bi women, then I suggest the same products the ladies use to attract men but with a small to modrate amount of male mones with it. Isexiness A, Ishine, IO, IH, and a little bit of arone which is a male mone. You can find it in IG I am not suggesting anone because its more aggressive and sexual and you mention you dont want that. IFM would be a good choice. If you are just looking to increase general friendships with both gay and straight women I suggest Ishine IH and IO. Keep in mind while using these you attract all people. Mones will not make a straight women sexually attracted to a lesbian. They just dont work that way. I look forward to your reply so we can get your started with a GC. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![rolyatmcd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@rolyatmcd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolyatmcd)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/10 "2009-01-11T03:17:23Z")
Tisha23: yeah, I’m gay. With the whole not wanting men to hit on me thing, I kind of edited that sentence before I posted. I work the night shift and there’s always creepy men that come in at that time. And I don’t mean just shady. These guys say scary stuff. That was more about what I was talking about because of what I’m used to. This doesn’t really apply anymore because I decided I’m gonna be quitting that job. When I said the thing about not wanting _them_ to be sexually attracted to me, that was my fault you didn’t understand. I meant I don’t want _anyone_ to be sexually attracted to me right now. Though I guess I can live with it to figure this out. I mostly said that because I’m extremely shy and get wicked awkward in those type of situations with people I don’t know. Thanks for the suggestions. I’ll try those ones out. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 1:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/11 "2009-01-11T13:27:02Z")
> [@rolyatmcd](#): > > Tisha23: yeah, I’m gay. > > With the whole not wanting men to hit on me thing, I kind of edited that sentence before I posted. I work the night shift and there’s always creepy men that come in at that time. And I don’t mean just shady. These guys say scary stuff. That was more about what I was talking about because of what I’m used to. This doesn’t really apply anymore because I decided I’m gonna be quitting that job. > > When I said the thing about not wanting _them_ to be sexually attracted to me, that was my fault you didn’t understand. I meant I don’t want _anyone_ to be sexually attracted to me right now. Though I guess I can live with it to figure this out. I mostly said that because I’m extremely shy and get wicked awkward in those type of situations with people I don’t know. > > Thanks for the suggestions. I’ll try those ones out. 😃 Sounds to me like the socials Tisha mentioned would be the way to go. They would let you improve things on a social level & help you work on the shyness by giving you that little extra boost of confidence, without attracting attention in a sexual way. I have heard very good things about Instant openess & Instant honesty, though I have yet to try them myself. I personally LOVE Instant Sexiness! I have both IS/a & IS/b and get great results from both. Now, obviously I am after sexual type attention as well, which I do get with these, but what I love the most is the self effect I get. I normally get quite a few looks & stares but it makes me squirm. I don’t know how to react to it & it almost makes me feel naked…I simply don’t like the attention! With IS/a or IS/b I do like the attention! I make eye contact & smile rather than look away & feel so much more relaxed and confident. It’s bloody brilliant. I dont think IS/a or IS/b are ideal for what you are after but I reckon IH or IO would be. Maybe [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) would be worth a try too. ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/12 "2009-01-11T14:04:01Z")
> [@rolyatmcd](#): > > With the whole not wanting men to hit on me thing, I kind of edited that sentence before I posted. I work the night shift and there’s always creepy men that come in at that time. And I don’t mean just shady. These guys say scary stuff. That was more about what I was talking about because of what I’m used to. This doesn’t really apply anymore because I decided I’m gonna be quitting that job. Ew, I’m sorry about that aspect of your job. I hope you find something more satisfactory. As for my earlier question about what kind of women you like, I have no idea what I’m talking about really, but just as a guess I’d second what Tisha recommended – using some of the women’s products with a little of one of the more masculine pheros thrown in. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/13 "2009-01-11T22:40:19Z")
Thank you for clarifying for me. I didn’t want to give you wrong product advice because I misunderstood. Mones cost alot of money LOL I am glad you will be leaving the creepy guy job behind. I to hope you find something safer and more to your liking. If you were going to continue there though I would suggest not using mones around them because creepy guys have trouble using appropriate behavior when acting on there feelings and you dont want to influence them, So you want purely social, Ok as I said IO IH Ishine are good. CTTM is good. You could get away with Isexiness A but not B. A is not over sexual. MX274 would be good. This one is not under the guarantee. Lastly to give comfort to you and to other women around you IFM. If you have questions just ask. I look forward to chatting with you in the forum **Your GC is on its way** 😃 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![rolyatmcd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@rolyatmcd](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolyatmcd)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/24724/14 "2009-01-12T22:11:45Z")
Thank you so much for the help you have given. 🙂 I ended up ordering Instant Sexiness A to help with my confidence. I also ordered [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). I’m going to order a couple of the others you all suggested, but I need to wait until I get more money 🙄 I’ll try to post somewhere the effects have, if they help in my situation at all. Thanks again 😃