# Hey!!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [March 17, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134 "2009-03-17T01:46:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![markymarc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markymarc/32/1165_2.png) [@markymarc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/markymarc)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 1:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/1 "2009-03-17T01:46:15Z")

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Hey! My name is Marc. I’m 43, married nearly 17 years to my stunning wife Debbie and i have 4 gorgeous children. My main interest in [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is to increase the quality and quantity of intimacy with my wife. Generally my wife is very keen only maybe once or twice a month and three or four times she will participate for my benefit (not much fun but I appreciate the gesture). Although I’m 43 i am extremely healthy and have a healthy libido to match - 3 to 5 times a week be good but three quality love making sessions would certainly help curb my appetite. We are best friends and i go out of my way to make my wife feel totally loved and appreciated. I buy flowers almost every week, go on dates, give lots of nonsexual affection and i know she loves me heaps but seems to be very disinterested in intimacy except for that once or twice a month when her hormones kick in. Unfortunately it has begun to really strain our relationship and although a little skeptic i really want to give this a real try with pheromones…

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 1:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/2 "2009-03-17T01:49:59Z")

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Hello and welcome to the forum.

I am in a very similar position to you - mid-40s, married 20+ years with children.

A lot of guys come here with the same reasons - looking to improve life at home. Check out the thread in my signature block that talks about that. It will give you several strategies and the products here that you can use for that. The big thing to remember is to rekindle the intimacy with some of the social products and not try to brute force the issue with just the none. You will see what I mean once you read the thread.

Also check out the first thread in my signature block. It will give you a realistic view of what to expect.

Once you read those two come back and ask me any questions. I am happy to answer.

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/3 "2009-03-17T02:35:08Z")

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Welcome.

There are numerous folks here with the same objectives as you have. Tell us a bit about your wife’s personality, and yours. We may be able to make some suggestions. Both what to use and what to be careful with.

Bosshank has given you some very good leads of threads to read.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/4 "2009-03-17T02:41:53Z")

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Hello there and welcome!

I appreciate your love and consideration for your wife. Not many men are like that.

So I think I can suggest something to you. The Instant line is a good start for most beginners and the pheromone IH is a great product for creating intimacy and making her feel comfortable.

So are you just wanting intimacy or do you want both sex and intimacy?

I could suggest TUTH if you wanted sex. That really gets women going.

Also, we need to know a little more about you like if your shy or outgoing. Are you dominant or passive?

And would you like to use the pheromones only for romance?  
You can use them for your social life and work as well.

Well if you have any questions feel free to ask. Good luck!

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**Author:** ![markymarc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markymarc/32/1165_2.png) [@markymarc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/markymarc)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/5 "2009-03-17T03:59:57Z")

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To answer the question - is it intamacy or sex I’m after… as much as I love intamacy I want a lot more sex. I am naturally an effectionate person so we tend to have quite a bit of intmacy but when it comes to the crunch my wife is either not inerseted or is just a willing participant. I much prefer to gourmuet sex than wham bam thankyou mam. The once or twicw a month she is keen she is very keen and always goes woohoo!! Her personality?? She is a driven person. She is a TV producer and head of a TV/ Media college. She can be firm but soft and playful as a pussycat. Apart from our difference in libido we have never really had an argument in 18 years or so. It’s only in the last few years or so when I started bringing it up that we started conflicting. Otherwise everything is smooth hats why I’m determined to fix this issue.

Me - I’m not a very serious person - very casual. I try to joke about most things which is one of the reasons we never fight. I’m a Health and fitness consultant / author as well as a semi proffessional stand-up comedian. Outwardly I’m a very confident person who makes friends extremely easy but my inner confidence has taken a bit of a dive because of the amount of rejection I’ve had from my advances… sorry this has turned into an essay

So far I have purchased Instant female magic, TUTH and I have some openess. I’'m a little nervous about using TUTH because of what Steve O wrote about turning off more women then attracting them and it was like having your penis out!! I’m worried it will be perceived as desperate and turn her off even more!!

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/6 "2009-03-17T05:48:36Z")

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Well, not that you’d take me seriously at all with my avatar picture and what-not, but I can tell you that TUTH turned me on and I think older women can handle a lot more TUTH then younger can so I think you’ll be good. But, just to set the stage you may want to ease her into it with just one spray of TUTH and a few of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), that way she’s more comfortable. I kinda wish you would have gotten IH because despite the fact that you are intimate it would probably help to buffer the TUTH and not give the “penis out” effect so much.

Another good pheromone that portrays an air of respect is the A314. This product in no way portrays you as the man trying to get sex, but the man who is refined and sexy. I would really consider this one. A lot of guys love it

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/7 "2009-03-17T05:59:24Z")

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Tuth is much safer in an established relationship. You are unlikely to scare her with it. Women do sometimes differ in their reaction to anone depending on thier time in their cycle though. She’ll be most receptive to it when she is fertile, just the time you don’t need any help. However, she may react positively at other times too. Give it a try. She might get bitchy and agressive and horny at the same time. Individuals react differently.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/8 "2009-03-17T06:04:53Z")

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Very true. We all react differently. The only thing you can do is just try it out and hope for the best. But don’t lose hope if it doesn’t work the first time. Make sure you try it with buffers when you find your right dosage.  
And like GWTW said, she doesn’t have to be near that TOM to get turned on. I was already passed my time and I took a good whiff and couldn’t stop thinking about the dirty ting hehe

Just try it and let us know how it goes

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**Author:** ![markymarc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markymarc/32/1165_2.png) [@markymarc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/markymarc)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/9 "2009-03-17T06:27:22Z")

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Thanks for all the advice…Does this stuff really work?? I’ll purchase whatever I need if it works. If TUTH is too strong is [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) a better choice?? Will Openness / Female magic disguise THTH as well as honesty…

Sorry excuse my ignorance - What is TOM… is that tom cat or an abbreviation and what do you mean by passed your time?? your cycle??

marc

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/10 "2009-03-17T06:38:01Z")

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Yes this stuff all works really well. Just read some of the journals ppl have. Why do you think my signature says I have so many lol. I’m hooked!

Ammunition might be better. I think you should give it a try first. I was just suggesting TUTH because your wife wasn’t ever wanting it and that will really get a women in the mood I believe more then anything else. I could be wrong tho

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**Author:** ![markymarc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markymarc/32/1165_2.png) [@markymarc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/markymarc)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/11 "2009-03-17T06:47:18Z")

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If TUTH is the one that gets in the mood than that’s what I’ll try!! thanks again

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/12 "2009-03-17T06:59:36Z")

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Alright. Hope it all goes well.

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**Author:** ![markymarc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markymarc/32/1165_2.png) [@markymarc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/markymarc)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/13 "2009-03-17T07:08:00Z")

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One more question… If it doesnt get her interested the first night would add another spray until it does work??/ does it take time for the interesst to regester… 10 mins two hours… does it take a few days?? thanks marc

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/14 "2009-03-17T07:13:19Z")

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> [@markymarc](#):
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> One more question… If it doesnt get her interested the first night would add another spray until it does work??/ does it take time for the interesst to regester… 10 mins two hours… does it take a few days?? thanks marc

That depends on the response you get from her. If she seems irritated then you’ll need to lower the dosage. So if you’ve sprayed 1 spray you’ll need to screw off the top and just dab a little to yourself.

If there is no response or a little good response then definitely add 1 more spray.

It will take anywhere from 5-10 mins for the [pheromone](https://a314.com/) to effect those around you. And it might last a long time given the fact that TUTH is a somewhat sticky product that stays on you for a while

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**Author:** ![markymarc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markymarc/32/1165_2.png) [@markymarc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/markymarc)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/15 "2009-03-17T07:29:27Z")

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How do you mean irritated?

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 10:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/16 "2009-03-17T10:06:54Z")

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Marc,

When she says irritated it could range from very mild to PMS-like reactions. So just be ready.

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 12:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/17 "2009-03-17T12:13:16Z")

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It is possible to be irritated and excited at the same time. It can lead to interesting situations, but not to everyone’s tastes.

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**Author:** ![markymarc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markymarc/32/1165_2.png) [@markymarc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/markymarc)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/18 "2009-03-17T22:45:21Z")

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So… until two nights ago my wife and i hadnt been intimate for a month mainly due to this whole lack of intamcy thing (it’s a viscious circle) Two days a go I received two packages of pheromones from two different companies -actually I received another Australian pheromone a few days earlier and got no reaction at all. Anyway one package included instant female magic along with TUTH and Openess. The other package had a pheromone called UltraAllure which has a nice Tommy boy scent to it. I was a bit scared to use TUTH after reading Stevos blurb on it so used 3 sprays of Openness, 3 sprays of IFM and and 5 or so dabs of UltraAllure.

Anyway for some reason or another my wife asked for a cuddle in bed. She then started gentltly rubbing my back and before I new it I was ripping my clothes off in record time (I was fully dressed just got home from a gig - I do stand-up and mc work) praise the Lord!!!

Anyway last night after reading a few of your posts and advice I decided to try the same and add one and a half sprays (thefirst one didn’t come out fully) of TUTH. Well I dont know if both nights were a coincidence and it’s just because we were getting on better or it’s that time of the month but hey none in over a month and then twice in a row… Praise the Lord!!!

Now I cant wait to see if was a coincidence or not.. I pray not!!!

Marc

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/19 "2009-03-17T22:51:50Z")

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Hmm, I’m glad that UltraAllure worked for you and even happier the TUTH worked for you as well.

Make sure you are selective with your sprays so you dont  
a. run out too quick  
and b. lose that wow effect that most people use from using the same pheromone or pheromones in general without taking a break. I generally take a day or two break.

Glad to hear it’s all going good.

One thing. I’m fairly confident that Androtics stuff works, but I’m curious if the UltraAllure works without the aid of stuff from Androtics.  
Just an idea, but you could try using just the UltraAllure by itself to see if you still get good results. This will confirm for others that UltraAllure does indeed work.

Good Luck!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hey/27134/20 "2009-03-17T23:02:38Z")

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GC On the way 🙂

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