# HGH: anybody had any experience with growth hormones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [February 19, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262 "2009-02-19T08:27:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Reaper\_vai](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reaper_vai/32/855_2.png) [@Reaper\_vai](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reaper_vai)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/1 "2009-02-19T08:27:54Z")
Any body had any experience with growth hormones? I’ve been looking for information but all i have came across is the usual internet advertising. ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/2 "2009-02-19T18:25:46Z")
> [@Reaper\_vai](#): > > Anybody had any experience with growth hormones? I’ve been looking for information but all i have came across is the usual internet advertising. Any experience with growth hormones? As in using them without a medical condition where it’s required as treatment? 😮 Are you familiar with the wonderful effects on the body that anabolic steroids have? Well, growth hormone (GH) also affects muscle mass in an anabolic way…sounds great doesn’t it… Well, here’s a few other effects it also has; - It stimulates growth of all internal organs (except the brain)… cardiomyopathy is awesome, you should google it! - It reduces liver uptake of glucose…and increases gluconeogenesis… That gives you hyperglycaemia… Diabetes is way cool! - It increases calcium retention and strengthens & increases the mineralisation of bone…google acromegaly and see if you like the bone effects of that 😉 Or joint pain & swelling? There’s a reason patients with GH producing tumours are treated with surgical removal of the tumour as well as anti-GH drugs… And there’s a reason you only prescribe GH to patients with GH deficiency… And there’s a reason it’s a banned substance…it’s been on the list for banned doping agents since 2000… The reason is…GH aint good for you unless you have a deficiency 😉 ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/3 "2009-02-19T19:36:44Z")
What in the world would you use HGH for? What’s your application? If it is body building or strength training we have people here are _very_ good at that. Run a couple of searchs. If you trying to increase sex drive your problem here is going to information overload. We have put alot of research and discussion into that one. Surely you can’t using it for anti-ageing. Human Growth Hormone is some risky business. Whatever it is you’re trying to do, there is probably a better way ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/4 "2009-02-19T19:42:39Z")
Take some L-Arginine and L-Ornithine right before bed. This combination works well for increasing minor _NATURAL_ HGH release without the negatives. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/5 "2009-02-19T22:41:29Z")
Not to mention it leaves you hung like a hamster. 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/6 "2009-02-19T23:01:28Z")
No personal experience with HGH, I think my cousin took some back in the day to grow taller. At least, that’s what I was able to gather at that age..I’m a couple years younger than him, but was taller than him in 8th/9th grade. He took some kind of growth hormone and is now my height. Maybe he just had a late spurt, I dunno, regardless the two of us are the tallest in the family. I hope he doesn’t get complications from the hormone. As for me, aside from any hormones I end up drinking from milk, I haven’t touched them or thought about them. Like the others, I wonder what your goals are. ---
**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/7 "2009-02-20T00:25:53Z")
I have a lot of experience researching hormones… My father is on hormone replacement therapy. Here is what I can tell you… Your goals for wanting to take HGH are very important… I don’t advise taking it unless your body isn’t producing enough. To find out - have some blood work done. HGH - for hormone replacement is safe and it’s actually quite beneficial. It is also MEGA expensive! If you are going to be supervised by a doctor and you are prescribed HGH - great. If however you are thinking about taking it on your own… here’s what I can say… it’s going to cost you a TON! It is illegal… It could be fake… a common fake for the real HGH is HCG. HCG is what women produce when they are pregnant… it’s also used in men to stimulate the testes but not used for a long time. HGH WILL cause any pre-existing cancer to grow larger… HGH can cause organs to grow larger but not with a low dosage. Look at todays bodybuilders - they have distended belly’s but their abs are ripped. This is because they are on mega doses of HGH (15-20iu’s a day)- i believe the human body produces between 2-3 iu’s a day naturally. HGH can affect insulin sensativity also… Here’s how HGH works… you inject it (usually sub-q) - it enters the bloodstream where it then passes through the liver. As it goes through the liver it becomes IGF-1. (insulin growth factor) This stuff is pretty incredible - it can cause muscle growth, height growth (if your growth plates havn’t closed. your 27 tho… so they have.), fat loss over time… It’s honestly not something to mess around with unless your under a doctors supervision - specifically an endocrinologist or another hormone doctor. Chances are - your HGH levels aren’t low… not at 27. Everyone is different tho… get a blood test if you think they are low. One last thing… NOTHING you buy over the counter is real HGH. You can find suppliments to “stimulate” hgh release… but anything claiming to be HGH is utterly fake. HGH is extremilly fragile and can not be ingested. The stomach acids alone would destroy it. What are your goals? Send me a PM if you’re inquiring about muscle gain or fatloss… also - check out the workout enthusiasts social group. It’s full of EXCELLENT info. ~Haz~ ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 12:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/8 "2009-02-20T00:56:52Z")
Nice post bro! [Bodybuilding.com](http://Bodybuilding.com) knowledge right there! Ha, ha. ---
**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/9 "2009-02-20T01:07:29Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Nice post bro! [Bodybuilding.com](http://Bodybuilding.com) knowledge right there! Ha, ha. LOL thanks. I started researching hormones when my fathers doctor advised him to go on hormone replacement therapy. I have some rather “controvesial” views on hormones… I WOULD NOT condone the use of them by anyone without a prescription… however… i do not feel they are as “detrimental” as people claim they are. I get ripped on it all the time from friends… I mean… don’t get me wrong - they can be dangerous… thats why they are a banned substance and thats why i would never condone the use of them to anyone. If anyone has reason to believe their natural hormone levels are below the normal range… they should contact their physician and get them tested. If they turn out to be low… have your physician recomend a hormone doctor. DO NOT goto your urologist for this! They can prescribe them to you but i’m telling you… they are not nearly as experienced with them as an endocrinologist. Testosterone is very important in men… if test levels are low… youwill feel 110% better when you get on HRT. It’s worth it just for the “better quality of life” - not to mention the health benefits. ~Haz~ ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/10 "2009-02-20T03:06:47Z")
I read that before chemists were able to synthesize HGH the only way to get it was from cadavers. Creepy stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/11 "2009-02-20T21:04:57Z")
> [@Pheraoh](#): > > I read that before chemists were able to synthesize HGH the only way to get it was from cadavers. Creepy stuff. Yup - your right. The patients who were injected with the cadaver HGH had to be tested for the next 21 years… or something close to that… because they could have contracted creutsfeld-jacobs disease. There were a lot of problems with that method lol… thank-god for science. ~Haz~ ---
**Author:** ![TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tansri_dato_awesome/32/320_2.png) [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TanSri_Dato_aweSOME)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/12 "2009-02-21T21:49:47Z")
Hazard, Impressive Body u got there. Pretty crafted and symmetry from this one pic i see. ---
**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/13 "2009-02-23T21:10:09Z")
> [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](#): > > Hazard, > > Impressive Body u got there. Pretty crafted and symmetry from this one pic i see. Thank-you TSD - lots of protein and dedication man! ~Haz~ ---
**Author:** ![absane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/absane/32/601_2.png) [@absane](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/absane)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/14 "2009-02-26T15:11:37Z")
This is what HGH does to you at 62 years old: [http://www.filmwad.com/fw\_images/2009/01/26/sylvester-stallone-in-shape-the-expendables.jpg](http://www.filmwad.com/fw_images/2009/01/26/sylvester-stallone-in-shape-the-expendables.jpg) (well, you have to workout, too!!!) If you take too much like most of the professional bodybuilders out there (like Ronnie Coleman), you can be at 5% body fat and look ultra-constipated and 6 months pregnant. I don’t take any hormones because I see no need. However, when I am 40 I am sure I’ll be looking to get some. One of my goals is to live forever 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/15 "2009-02-26T21:20:27Z")
lol stallone was caught with hgh in australia if im not mistaken… I don’t think anybody needs hormones for recreational purposes… but if you have a deficiancy… go for it. Having low testosterone is being found to not be good for men… it leads to depression, sexual problems, and heart problems. What is really a shame tho… is that these insurance companies wont cover ANY hormone replacement therapy in men. They would rather hope that the complications of low testosterone or growth hormone wont lead to a big problem. It’s cheaper for them not to cover you than it is to correct a “problem” down the road. this is why people like my father, who have low testosterone (almost none), have to pay for it out of pocket… ~Haz~ ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/16 "2009-02-26T21:46:29Z")
It’s the job of insurance companies to deny as many claims as humanly possible. Even to people who are in dire situations. Not to mention the American healthcare system is really terrible ontop of it. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/17 "2009-02-26T22:10:03Z")
> [@Pheraoh](#): > > Not to mention the American healthcare system is really terrible ontop of it. America has a health care system?🙄 ---
**Author:** ![fzt75](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fzt75/32/1168_2.png) [@fzt75](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fzt75)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 10:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/18 "2010-07-15T10:43:32Z")
I wonder if Hasard was talking about HGH injection, or also supplements (like GABA) that just stimulate HGH natural increase in the body. I am currently thinking about one taking one of these supplement to help me with my workout, lose fat and build some muscle a little bit faster. But, I wouldn’t do it if there is all the risks he was talking about, like increasing internal organs, and so… I read that Secretagogue Gold is a good HGH supplement, but I am still not sure if the reviews are biased or not. If anyone have some knowledge about it (cause I think that Hasard doesn’t post anymore), I will be very glad to have his advice. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/19 "2010-07-16T08:44:32Z")
> [@fzt75](#): > > I wonder if Hasard was talking about HGH injection, He was. No herb or supplement will come even close to a HGH injection. [Human Growth Hormone Scams](http://www.somatropin.net/hgh-scams.htm) ---
**Author:** ![fzt75](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fzt75/32/1168_2.png) [@fzt75](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fzt75)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hgh-anybody-had-any-experience-with-growth-hormones/26262/20 "2010-07-16T19:51:28Z")
Thanks. I learnt from that link that HGH releasers may increase cortisone level in the body. So, I will stick to protein !