# Hi All!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [June 3, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453 "2008-06-03T17:28:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![sennheiserz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@sennheiserz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sennheiserz)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/1 "2008-06-03T17:28:04Z")

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Hey There!

Just wanted to introduce myself, I’m a 24 year old guy who is interested in the idea of [pheromones](https://a314.com/), I sorta feel like even though I’m a successful good looking dude, I just have a distinct lack of pheromones that my other friends certainly don’t. From reading through a lot of this forum it looks like everyone is here for the same reason, to meet new people, which is what I try hard to do most days.

I was mildly interested in the pickup community, until I realized that most of it was really obnoxious and not about being yourself (except, oddly, for a guy named David Wygant), but am still adamant about being the best me I can be. Thanks for all your community in advance.

Cheers!

-Dave 🙄  
[MySpace.com - The DP - 24 - Male - Brooklyn, New York - www.myspace.com/sennheiserz](http://www.myspace.com/sennheiserz)

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**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/2 "2008-06-03T17:34:38Z")

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Hello Senn

Welcome to PheroTalk 🙂

Im glad that you have your head screwed on correctly and think that PUA or pick up Techniques are just a game we all play once in awhile to get some good game but not to live by it like most guys day in and nite. Yes it is obnoxious I think soo too 🙂 but we all do it to some point once in awhile which is ok…

I would try some [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) if I were you its great for picking girls up respectfully without coming on too strong and intimidating and appearing like a guy with a hidden agenda I love the scent its awesome.

Welcome on board Buddy

Ciao “J” 😛

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**Author:** ![v0m1t](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/v0m1t/32/520_2.png) [@v0m1t](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/v0m1t)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/3 "2008-06-03T17:55:28Z")

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ammo + instant openness

Thats what in my next order. Welcome to the forums Dave.

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**Author:** ![sennheiserz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@sennheiserz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sennheiserz)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/4 "2008-06-03T17:58:16Z")

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Thanks guys, I guess I often make lots of cute ladyfriends, but respect them too much to want to jump into something more sexual, so I’m thinking about Ammo for bars, Turn up the Heat for close ladyfriends, instant shine for mood and maybe [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) for bars as well. If I had to only get two which would you recommend?

Thanks!

-Dave 🙄

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**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/5 "2008-06-03T18:25:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> so I’m thinking about [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) for bars, [Turn up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) for close ladyfriends, [instant shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for mood and maybe [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) for bars as well. If I had to only get two which would you

\*\*Great Line-up and descriptions of what you want to use these for and where they are most applicable looks like you’ve been doing some reading with incorporating and matching up the right products to the right type of usefull environment where they will be most effective, I like your style 😛

If you had to choose any two I would definatly pick Ammo as number one as it’s really versatile just like Instant Shine.

Instant Shine is great for self-effects and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is great for approachability, personally I would choose Instant Shine as it’s a pivotal product any first time pheromone user should try but then again I would get TUTH and Instant Openness in to-go sizes as they are great choices as well.

I cant help you with two choices but if you need to knock one of them off your list I would get rid of TUTH and choose whether you want Instant Shine or Instant Openeness and get Ammo for sure.

Personally I would get all the stuff you mention as you already have specific situations you can use them at.

Get them all LOL get togo bottles of TUTH and Instant Openness and focus on AMMO and Instant Shine as your main arsenal. Save your time and postage soo you have a nice spread of stuff to try out by investing in your choices you wont regret it 🙂

“J”

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**Author:** ![sennheiserz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@sennheiserz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sennheiserz)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/6 "2008-06-03T18:31:09Z")

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Hey thanks for the reply J, I like your style as well…hyper informative!

My only other question, as I get kinda paranoid about the side effects of drugs in my day to day life, is whether one can have like a ‘bad trip’ on something like instant shine? Doesn’t sound like anyone has, but I’m really anal about the kinds of drugs I have near me and I don’t want to spray this stuff on and freak out for 6 hours. Is this even a remote possibility? I just have no idea what to expect. Thanks!

-Dave 🙄

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**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/7 "2008-06-03T18:40:43Z")

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\*\*NO side effects they effect your neuro-sensors in your brain like candy high or too much sex or when you’ve had too much sex, Tierdness is the only downfall when your overloaded with Pheromones for the first time users, but then again thats the whole point of pheromones it makes you feel a little elated and high in a happy good natural way, like for the first time sometimes you wake up on the right side of the bed and you just wonder to yourself why your soo happy and the rest of your day goes by soo quick like a day dream.

No side effects, some sensitive guys and girls may need to take a few naps in the afternoon just to recharge their batteries but it’s all worth it because your body needs time to recharge from all the smiling that you will be doing, 🙂

[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) in some people causes tierdness and headaches for 1st time users but it’s very rare unless you were raised inside a bubble and have no nerological defense mechanism’s , ( like bubble boy )😛 J/k

Ammo and Instant Shine actually makes me feel alert and focused and Horny.

“J”  
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**Author:** ![sennheiserz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@sennheiserz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sennheiserz)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/8 "2008-06-03T18:45:18Z")

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Great, thanks for the heads up. I also didn’t realize To-Go sizes existed! Now I can get all four and try them out without spending 180 bones (even though I just got my Stimulus Check, stimulating indeed 😃). Guess I’ll try out a bunch of travel sizes and see how they fit on me.

Cheers!

-Dave 🙄

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**Author:** ![sennheiserz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@sennheiserz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sennheiserz)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/9 "2008-06-03T18:49:36Z")

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I guess this is a whole pandora’s box, but what’s the world on the street about meeting a girl/guy while using pheromones, dating for a while and then deciding to stop using them. I’m really in the market for a LTR and don’t want a person who will feel bizzarly empty all of a sudden if I stop using these, as they now expect a certain production of pheromones. Thoughts?

-Dave 🙄

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**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/10 "2008-06-03T18:53:44Z")

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\*\*Yay Im glad you can get all of them now, I wouldnt want you to miss out on your first set of new toys it would be like a puzzle with a piece missing dont’ you just hate that 😛

P.S wait for your $15 complimentary Gift Certificate to put towards your first purchase at the store plus another $5 dollars for signing up at the store that’s $20 togo towards your togo’s (haha I used togo as a pun Im blonde sorry ).

Your GC will be issued by our house elf who runs around the forums just like in harry potter, don’t worry she will magically appear when you least expect it 😛

Good luck Dave

“J”  
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**Author:** ![sennheiserz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@sennheiserz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sennheiserz)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/11 "2008-06-03T18:56:19Z")

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Are you making a reference to BOGO as in Payless? LOL

Also, how many sprays are typically in a To Go bottle? I registered as well for the extra $5. Thanks!

-Dave 🙄

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/12 "2008-06-03T19:07:27Z")

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> [@sennheiserz](#):
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> Also, how many sprays are typically in a To Go bottle?

I will answer that on my buddy Jasx behalf. There is 40 sprays on each togo bottle 🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/13 "2008-06-04T00:57:24Z")

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Hello Dave,

Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

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> I guess this is a whole pandora’s box, but what’s the world on the street about meeting a girl/guy while using pheromones, dating for a while and then deciding to stop using them. I’m really in the market for a LTR and don’t want a person who will feel bizzarly empty all of a sudden if I stop using these, as they now expect a certain production of pheromones. Thoughts?

pheromones influence, attract, arouse, interest ,calm ,comfort, connect, ect ect ect. Basically they enhance who you already are. They help make socialization easier and more fun but they wont do all the work for you. They open the door but you still need to step through it. If she is attracted to you with the pheromones on she still will be attracted when you don’t wear them.

Please read this post for more info on that…

> [@What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558):
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> A lot of people come in to the forum and read all the wonderful stories about peoples experiences with [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). New people end up trying them out with high expectations and usually as they get to know the product those expectations are met to some extent and sometimes not because there expectations were to high But I think its best for people to have a realistic view on what exactly they can and can not do. I get a lot of PM’s from people asking me why "they couldn’t get there cheati…

There are no serious side effects from using pheromones. Rash on application site. This usually only happens if your prone to it from other colognes and aftershaves. Headaches or a head rush feeling from the overload on your neurotransmitters which normally go’s away after your accustomed to the products. Its similar to a caffeine high and crash. Once your body is accustomed to caffeine you no longer suffer the crash effect.

You have picked out a good line up of products to start out with. If you have any questions or need help with the products let me know.

😃 **Your GC will be in your email box shortly** 😃

Have fun

Tisha

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**Author:** ![sennheiserz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@sennheiserz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sennheiserz)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/14 "2008-06-04T19:44:29Z")

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Just lit up my first order, thanks all!

-Dave 🙄

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**Author:** ![sennheiserz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@sennheiserz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sennheiserz)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/15 "2008-06-05T16:44:58Z")

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Hey Tisha,

I made my first order, but I got an email saying the transaction isn’t complete yet and to complete it. The paypal I sent to you hasn’t been claimed, and I called this morning but there was no answer. Please let me know what to do. Thanks!

-Dave 🙄

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/16 "2008-06-05T22:29:00Z")

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> [@sennheiserz](#):
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> Hey Tisha,
> 
> I made my first order, but I got an email saying the transaction isn’t complete yet and to complete it. The paypal I sent to you hasn’t been claimed, and I called this morning but there was no answer. Please let me know what to do. Thanks!
> 
> -Dave 🙄

Relax dave, i think Lady Tisha is busy right now but not to worry she will be here in a while to check on your problem 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/17 "2008-06-05T23:20:15Z")

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> [@sennheiserz](#):
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> Hey Tisha,
> 
> I made my first order, but I got an email saying the transaction isn’t complete yet and to complete it. The paypal I sent to you hasn’t been claimed, and I called this morning but there was no answer. Please let me know what to do. Thanks!
> 
> -Dave 🙄

If it’s processing it’s normal they just haven’t gotten around to approving it, but if it’s asking you to complete the checkout process then you need customer support, My orders usually stay in Processing for awhile sometimes before being accepted and approved the first time around I ordered.

Either way Tisha will enlighten you a lot better then I can 🙂 just added my 2 cents soo you don’t freak out as this is your 1st order 😛

P.S Give it some time but if it’s not fixed yet and if Tisha’s busy at work instead of calling put a ticket through. Link below,

[Androtics support](https://a314.com/)

“J”

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/18 "2008-06-06T00:32:32Z")

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To use paypal you have to have a verified address in the PP system.

Check your PP account to be sure that you do have a verified account. If not get it verified and send a message to androtics support at the address in my signature.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![sennheiserz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@sennheiserz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sennheiserz)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/19 "2008-06-06T21:50:29Z")

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Its all good now, I just never heard of a business that sends you a notice before the paypal goes through. looking forward to them, I’ll write and speak on the results.

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**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/13453/20 "2008-06-06T21:54:01Z")

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> [@sennheiserz](#):
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> Its all good now, I just never heard of a business that sends you a notice before the paypal goes through. looking forward to them, I’ll write and speak on the results.

Good that you have it sorted out, did the Paypal go through or is it still processing ? anyways I hope you get them soon 🙂

“J”

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