# Hi all!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 17, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/24035 "2008-12-17T07:59:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gabanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e0b2c6/32.png) [@gabanz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gabanz)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/24035/1 "2008-12-17T07:59:18Z")
I’m 24 male in Tokyo, Japan. I’ve stumbled upon this forum from searches on PUA related stuffs. I dont know much about [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/), but from reading the FAQs, stickies & newbee related pages, I can tell that many found these reliable & produce consistent results. I’m planning to experiment first with a few of the instant series, and see if I can see any changes in work & party environments. I’m an asian guy, and I read somewhere that some products are incompatible with race & age. So it would be a great help if someone could point out which one should I focus on first before trying the more advanced stuffs. thanks ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 8:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/24035/2 "2008-12-17T08:12:02Z")
> [@gabanz](#): > > I’m 24 male in Tokyo, Japan. > I’ve stumbled upon this forum from searches on PUA related stuffs. > I dont know much about pheromones, but from reading the FAQs, stickies & newbee related pages, I can tell that many found these reliable & produce consistent results. > I’m planning to experiment first with a few of the instant series, and see if > I can see any changes in work & party environments. > I’m an asian guy, and I read somewhere that some products are incompatible with race & age. So it would be a great help if someone could point out which one should I focus on first before trying the more advanced stuffs. > thanks Hey there Gabanz and welcome to the forums! I don’t know if you noticed during your search or not, but quite a few of the forum members here are resident experts on being a PUA and have posted several threads about it, in case you’d be interested in checking it out. As for the pheromones, i started off as a skeptic too, so i know how you feel. Well now, would you mind answering a few questions for us here? Such as what kind of personality you have, shy or outgoing? Where did you plan on wearing the pheromones? I know you mentioned work and party environments, but there are alot of different factors between a work party or a pub scene, so it’ll help us to know which is more likely. Also, who were you hoping to affect? Co-workers, friends, family, women, yourself? These answers will help us tailor our advice to your needs and make sure you get the best product for your purposes. So come on, tell us a bit more about yourself! Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/24035/3 "2008-12-17T08:24:04Z")
Hi there, Welcome to the forum. FG is right. Please tell us more about your intention of using pheromones. What kind of result are you lloking at. Is it for sexual, attraction, respect, relationship or others? Tell us more about your target too. Then we can recommend the right phero for you to try. You wil also earn yourself the gift cert. Have fun ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 9:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/24035/4 "2008-12-17T09:57:15Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum. Like FG and JB said, we need a little more information to be able to give you some good product recommendations and advice on using them. Plus once we know all that stuff Tisha will be able to send you a gift certificate you can use towards your purchase. There are not really any products that are incompatible with your age. However you ay want to keep a few things in mind: a lot of asian guys seem to be able to wear more 'none based products than caucasian, black or hispanic guys. Young women in general and some asian women in particular sometimes get scared off by heavy 'none based products. But for asian women this seems to be more true of caucasian guys wearing the ''none based products. MX 200 (a product for guys) has been referred to as Asian Persuasian. And I will let it go at that for now. ---
**Author:** ![gabanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e0b2c6/32.png) [@gabanz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gabanz)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/24035/5 "2008-12-17T09:59:42Z")
thank you FG, bond & boss for your kind responses. I would describe myself as a typical shy asian guy, non-alpha male (at least, yet) & in PUA terms, a regular AFC or a nice guy, which term u might be familiar with. usually non-talkative, especially around strangers, except in cases when I could steer the conversation towards finding the common values in the person I’m interacting with. I am young, but I think I kind of lack the social experience or dangerous bad boy traits.which women find me cute rather than the cool, attractive guy they want to spend the night with, so far only led me to end up in the “lets just be friends” zone. In bar or party environments, I dont drink so I realize its quite hard to keep up to pace with the high-energy vibe around me. i found myself being ignored half of the time. My primary target is to initiate initial attention then proceed to build comfort & rapport with women btw 19-28yo for a possible relationship. although I would also like the confidence boost and respect from peers & bosses while at work (I work in IT related field, which explains some of my analytical personality traits) I’m focused & enthusiastic at work, but I dont have the charm or charismatic enough to be relied upon work which require bigger responsibilities. I know that I have to start somewhere, so I’m willing to try virtually everything even if the effect is to just trigger a pleasant conversation with an unknown stranger, or at work help me in gain more trust. i hope this information will suffice. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/24035/6 "2008-12-17T10:22:45Z")
Okay - that helps a lot. What I would recommend: [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) - for the social scene after work. It has enough none in it to get you noticed but it is balanced enough to be polite. Just go easy at first to see how it does non you. A314 for work: It will give you the important alpha male vibe. It will help get you noticed at work plus it pairs up well with Ammo after work. You will be the sexy important computer guy to the ladies. CTTM2: a mix of 50/50 alpha and beta nols. This can work in two directions. Socially - it can help with starting those initial conversations with the ladies. At work it can help keep conversations going so fellow coworkers are distanced by the A314. IShine - helps keep everyone happy to be around you. Women like to be around guys who make them feel happy. I think this is a good direction to start with. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/24035/7 "2008-12-17T10:46:10Z")
Hello there , Welcome to Pherotalk BH makes some excellant suggestions, except I would go with IO over the CTTM for now. CTTM is good but dosnt seem to have the same self effects as something like IO. IO can draw both of you out as well as add comfort that you dont get with CTTM If you have questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way** 😃 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![gabanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e0b2c6/32.png) [@gabanz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gabanz)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 10:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/24035/8 "2008-12-17T10:54:33Z")
wow! thank u boss again for the quick & helpful reply.🙂 basically what ur saying is apply A314 with CTTM2 while at work, and ammo after that? when should i apply instant shine? I’m not quite sure to what proportion should i mix (or layer?) A314 with CTTM2 or ishine. or perhaps try one at a time to gauge the results? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/24035/9 "2008-12-17T11:05:34Z")
Yup, you got the right idea there at the end. It’s best to try each product separately and start with low doses, moving your way up until you find your “sweet spot.” Then once you know the best doses and the effects of each product, you can start mixing them together. ---
**Author:** ![gabanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e0b2c6/32.png) [@gabanz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gabanz)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2008, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/24035/10 "2008-12-17T11:59:13Z")
i want to keep things simple for now. thank god they have the togo for ishine & instant openness. I take all ur suggestions, and decided to try A314 & Ammo, with an occasional mix of Ishine & IO. Lets see where i can go with these. I appeciate all your help 🙂