# Hi all

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/3946>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [June 2, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/3946 "2007-06-02T18:50:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/3946/1 "2007-06-02T18:50:47Z")

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Hi  
I am male, 18 yrs from the UK  
As most of the people, I discovered this site after being scammed by pherlure and after reading I am both impressed and confused.

I consider myself to be intimidating and even though I know there are quite some women who like me they wont approach me as i have a “pissed off” air around me. I am also not much of a talker and prefer to be approached rather than approach women myself as I fear rejection (which is another problem altogether). I would appreciate if someone had any suggestions for me

thanks

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**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/3946/2 "2007-06-02T23:18:16Z")

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hi shubhodeep,

welcome to the forum. your going to love it here! very helpful info and very awesome products that really really work. i’ve use these products for about a month now and i must say they work better than i expected.

i’m curious about the pherlure how did they scam you?

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/3946/3 "2007-06-02T23:21:20Z")

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> [@shubhodeep](#):
>
> Hi  
> I am male, 18 yrs from the UK  
> As most of the people, I discovered this site after being scammed by pherlure and after reading I am both impressed and confused.
> 
> I consider myself to be intimidating and even though I know there are quite some women who like me they wont approach me as i have a “pissed off” air around me. I am also not much of a talker and prefer to be approached rather than approach women myself as I fear rejection (which is another problem altogether). I would appreciate if someone had any suggestions for me
> 
> thanks

Hi, Shubhodeep, and welcome to the forum.

For someone in your situation, I would advise using the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/), rather than going for the ones designed to elicit a sexual response. If you’re already perceived as intimidating, the sexual predator vibe given off by Turn Up The Heat and others like it will send girls running for the hills, rather than saying, “Sex me up, now!”

I’d start with Instant Shine, then move on to the Instant Openness and Instant Honesty. Maybe a shot of Ammunition or CTTM will help.

Another thing to keep in mind that has been mentioned many times on these boards is that women attract, men act. This means that you have to approach. If you wait for women to approach you, you’ll be waiting a long time.

If you give us more details as to why women seem to perceive you as intimidating, there are a few people on these forums who are knowledgeable about body language. They’ll be able to help you adopt a less intimidating posture.

Hope you have fun. We’re all friendly here. 🙂

Musk

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/3946/4 "2007-06-03T02:06:44Z")

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well, pherlure scammed me with their marketing skills. after reading the crap published on their website, i thought - “wow, this sounds great” but then quicly realized that they were no more than a cheap cologne.

thanks for the welcome

> [@me33333337](#):
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> hi shubhodeep,
> 
> welcome to the forum. your going to love it here! very helpful info and very awesome products that really really work. i’ve use these products for about a month now and i must say they work better than i expected.
> 
> i’m curious about the pherlure how did they scam you?

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/3946/5 "2007-06-03T02:13:40Z")

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thanks for the advice. i shall be ordering [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Shine and Amminution.  
i dont know why i am percieved as intimidating. older, mature women love me and approach me a lot but girls my age do not approach me unless they are forced to. i know they like me from the looks that they give but coming and saying ‘hi’ seems like a big effort for them.  
anyways, there is this girl I like and i know that she likes me too. she is quite older than me (im 18, shes 28) and we have been going out for 3 weeks now. she says many times that she wants to be ‘just friends’ but in the way she behaves with me, i know she has feelings for me. do you think instant honesty will coax her into expressing her feelings for me ?

> [@MuskCloud](#):
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> Hi, Shubhodeep, and welcome to the forum.
> 
> For someone in your situation, I would advise using the social pheromones, rather than going for the ones designed to elicit a sexual response. If you’re already perceived as intimidating, the sexual predator vibe given off by Turn Up The Heat and others like it will send girls running for the hills, rather than saying, “Sex me up, now!”
> 
> I’d start with Instant Shine, then move on to the Instant Openness and Instant Honesty. Maybe a shot of Ammunition or CTTM will help.
> 
> Another thing to keep in mind that has been mentioned many times on these boards is that women attract, men act. This means that you have to approach. If you wait for women to approach you, you’ll be waiting a long time.
> 
> If you give us more details as to why women seem to perceive you as intimidating, there are a few people on these forums who are knowledgeable about body language. They’ll be able to help you adopt a less intimidating posture.
> 
> Hope you have fun. We’re all friendly here. 🙂
> 
> Musk

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/3946/6 "2007-06-08T20:52:42Z")

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Hi shubhodeep, I think you’ll find a lot of help here, and have already! I, too, can come off as pretty intimidating sometimes, so I know where you’re comin’ from.

Welcome to the forum, your gift cert has been sent 🙂

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**Author:** ![ibelledthecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a698b9/32.png) [@ibelledthecat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ibelledthecat)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2007, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-all/3946/7 "2007-06-09T04:19:38Z")

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thanks for the gift certificate 🙂

> [@Jasmin](#):
>
> Hi shubhodeep, I think you’ll find a lot of help here, and have already! I, too, can come off as pretty intimidating sometimes, so I know where you’re comin’ from.
> 
> Welcome to the forum, your gift cert has been sent 🙂
