# Hi everyone!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [July 23, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156 "2008-07-23T23:03:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Hirogen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hirogen/32/1219_2.png) [@Hirogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hirogen)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/1 "2008-07-23T23:03:23Z")

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Hi everybody!

I’m a 27 years old male from Germany. Currently I’m a student at a university and will soon graduate.

I actually stumbled across Androtics in March '07 when I read a scientific article about pheromones and did some research on my own. I was actually quite sceptic about pheromones at that point but when I learned about Androtics and read a bit in the forums I wasn’t so sceptic anymore. I decided to learn more about it but I had too much other stuff to do and it went out of my focus. Until now. I would like to try it. 🙂

Currently, my focus doesn’t lie on finding a new girlfriend but to get a better social experience. Basically, that means: I’d like to be more respected and I want to get more attention from both sexes (but of course more from women 😉 ). People should feel happy around me. Locations: University, casual gatherings, bars, cooking together at home. Everyday life.

Based on these ‘requirements’ and what I read in the forums so far I think that maybe A314, Instant Shine, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty might work. Maybe even Ammo.

Can you give me advice on how to start and what to try first? I hope to learn from you guys and I’m reading through the forums but will certainly need a while. I plan to proceed slowly and try out the pheromones carefully in order to see what they do. After that I plan to focus on the ladies… 😉

I’m really excited to become a part of this community!

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/2 "2008-07-23T23:12:47Z")

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Welcome to the forum! Looks like you’ve been doing your homework! You already answered all of the questions that newbies usually get asked! I’d go with the products you’ve already listed and just jump in. You may need to play with your dosages, but all of your choices are great. Enjoy your stay, and keep reading through the forum for sugestions of where to spray (or dab) and length of time you can expect some products to last before you need to refresh them.

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**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/3 "2008-07-23T23:12:48Z")

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Hi hirogen, welcome 🙂

Im glad that you are one among us now who are lucky enough for know and be able to wear [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) 😃 and also post a more about yourself!

Looks like you already read a lot of info here too! I agree that pheromones will improve the overall social experience that you will have! IO ih ishine in particular are great product that gives you more, better conversations, and also a great happy aura around you!

I suggest you to start with io, since it is very easy to see the great results, and you will be happy you tried it very soon. For all products, start with a low dosage, like 1 spray. Test them by itself, one at a time to see better effects!

Good luck!

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**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/4 "2008-07-23T23:19:46Z")

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Hey Hirogen!

Welcome to the forum sweetie!!

Your list looks prettay good! I like the fact that you’ve decided to try out some unisex products (instant line) _thumbs up_

Instant shine is a great mood happy-maker lol, people will feel smiley around you.

Instant openness is excellent for socializing and getting people to feel comfy while they chat with you like forever 😃

and instant honesty, to get some some interesting convos lol! Don’t forget to post your reports when you get your stuff!

have fun 😃

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/5 "2008-07-23T23:24:48Z")

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Hello

Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

Your list looks good but I would go with AMMO over A314 first unless you can afford to get them all.

I see you have become familar with the forum. We look forward to your participation. If you have questions just ask.

😃 **Your GC will be going to your email in a few minutes** 😃

Have fun

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Hirogen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hirogen/32/1219_2.png) [@Hirogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hirogen)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/6 "2008-07-24T22:54:27Z")

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First of all: thank you so much for the warm welcome! Feels so good!

@ Tisha: Thank you very much for the GC! 🙂

I was quite busy during the day so please forgive me that I didn’t react sooner. Additionally, I met a girl tonight and it was a very pleasant and long conversation. If my intuition works correctly she reacts very very positive on me. Hm… 😉 By the way, the reason why I wanted to focus my pheromone experiences on social things was that I seperated from my girlfriend a month ago and don’t feel ready yet for something new.

Anyway, back to topic. I was really happy about the compliment of “having my homework done”. Feels good to hear from all of you that my list is quite appropriate. Also thank you for the suggestions and tips you gave me! I think I will have to read and learn a lot more. But somehow I feel a strong motivation to do that.

@ Tisha: Alright, will try Ammo instead of A314. 🙂

Questions:

1. Where should I post my experiences? In this thread?

2. I’m not sure if I fully understood the reputation system. Is it also to reward people if they helped you? For instance, I liked your posts so I give you reputation points? When do you give points to someone?

3. This might be a … hm… not so well-liked question but should I buy “to-go” products first so that I can see the results but not yet spend a fortune? That would certainly be a sceptic’s point of view. Or would you rather suggest that I purchase the big bottles because I will definitely be convinced?

Tisha: I saw a link in your signature about body language. I think this is another subject I should read on more. I’m often described as being “empathic”, so I already got a certain amount of awareness considering what others think. But body language definitely seems to be a field worth of more attention.

One idea that came to my mind today when I was cooking: Is it possible to compare the effects of pheromones to the image of spices in food? What I mean is, I thought that maybe spices can be a good description of how pheromones work. Imagine that the food itself may be liked but that it is also considered to be not exactly exciting. Then the right amount of the right spices comes in and the food tastes delicious. If too much is added, like too much salt, it is not delicious anymore. Certain spices contribute to the taste and others shouldn’t be in there.

What do you think? Is that an appropriate image?

Ok… that’s it for today, it’s 00:54 here and I’ll get some sleep now… 😉

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/7 "2008-07-25T00:41:41Z")

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1. Where should I post my experiences? In this thread?

**In the mens section**

1. I’m not sure if I fully understood the reputation system. Is it also to reward people if they helped you? For instance, I liked your posts so I give you reputation points? When do you give points to someone?

**You give points to posts that you feel are helpful or that you enjoyed.**

1. This might be a … hm… not so well-liked question but should I buy “to-go” products first so that I can see the results but not yet spend a fortune? That would certainly be a septics point of view. Or would you rather suggest that I purchase the big bottles because I will definitely be convinced?

**I suggest to-go bottles first then when you know which products work the best for you get the big bottles. The guarantee is for to-go size as well. Its one of the best things about this store. You can try things out and see what you think for a low cost before committing to a large bottle. We are confident you will come back for more LOL 😉**

Yes you could compare mones to food if it helps you understand them better. Some of us compare the vibe to different celebrity persona’s Like A314 James Bond, Instant sexiness A, Angelina Jolie  
[Instant sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/), Marilyn Monroe ect ect

Colors also work, Red TUTH , Royal Blue A314, Yellow Ishine ect ect

Your analogy is correct, to much of a good thing doesn’t always appeal. You need to find the right balance.

**Tisha**

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**Author:** ![Hirogen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hirogen/32/1219_2.png) [@Hirogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hirogen)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/8 "2008-07-25T12:26:31Z")

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@ Tisha (or anybody else who has information on it):

Why exactly did you suggest that I should try Ammo first instead of A314? As far as I read in the forum Ammo is more like a sex appeal and confidence booster, right? And A314 is more like a status raiser. Is that correct? Actually, I wanted to raise my social status and not so much my sex appeal. Did you suggest Ammo because it is easier to start with? Or because it is less complex and thus easier to see results? Or is A314 just too expensive for a starter who doesn’t know yet how to handle it or pheromones in general?

I’m sorry to bother you with such questions but I’m very curious and when I am very interested in something I just want to completely understand it. I hope you don’t mind.

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**Author:** ![SiriusC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/siriusc/32/1764_2.png) [@SiriusC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SiriusC)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 1:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/9 "2008-07-25T13:17:39Z")

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I am amazed that this stuff generates people from across the seas. I’ve seen posts from India, Australia, Ireland, & Germany. Reise, Reise!

If you want my suggestion, my friend, I would START OFF with not only full bottles, but double the strength if you have that option. I wish I did that when I started. I especially recommend that to you since you’re overseas.

And I too have joined up cos of a split with a girl. I wanted to andvance my social life to get the bad stuff out of my head. y’know? But beware: if you find this stuff works for you then you may look back with a bit of regret that you didn’t have this to advance you’re former relationship…

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**Author:** ![Hirogen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hirogen/32/1219_2.png) [@Hirogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hirogen)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/10 "2008-07-26T00:47:34Z")

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@ SiriusC: Thank you! 🙂 But, can you give me a bit more insight? I mean, why double strength for example? Most people seem to tell newbies to start with one spray of normal strength first… Can you give me more information concerning your experiences? And big bottles? You mean, because I will certainly / definitely be convinced after having tried it out?

Edit: I forgot: Seems that we were in similar situations. And I actually already regreted that I didn’t have the pheromones in my relationship when I was still in it.

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**Author:** ![copycat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/copycat/32/896_2.png) [@copycat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/copycat)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/11 "2008-07-26T06:24:53Z")

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> [@Hirogen](#):
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> I’m really excited to become a part of this community!

Hallo hirogen!

The people here are super-helpful. Be sure to report your [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) experiences; I’m sure you’ve noticed how helpful they are for figuring out what’s what.

Welcome aboard! 😃

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**Author:** ![SiriusC](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/siriusc/32/1764_2.png) [@SiriusC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SiriusC)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/12 "2008-07-26T20:07:38Z")

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> [@Hirogen](#):
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> @ SiriusC: Thank you! 🙂 But, can you give me a bit more insight? I mean, why double strength for example? Most people seem to tell newbies to start with one spray of normal strength first… Can you give me more information concerning your experiences? And big bottles? You mean, because I will certainly / definitely be convinced after having tried it out?
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> Edit: I forgot: Seems that we were in similar situations. And I actually already regreted that I didn’t have the pheromones in my relationship when I was still in it.

You should get the double strength because it’s more cost effective & stretches out what you’ve bought. And you can always use less. For example, if you have a double strength [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) & it’s so overwhelming (it won’t be) that you need to use less, then just use half a spray. Conversely, if you have single strength Ammo but want MORE out of it you might use 2-4 sprays. And that means the bottle’s gonna run out quicker AND that you have twice as much fragrance on you, which can turn some people off.

When it comes to full bottles versus to-go bottles, you might run through the small stuff so quickly that you need to re-order before you know it. That’s what happened to me when I first started. And since you’re in Germany, re-ordering & shipping might be a bitch.

But hey, I’m still in the experimental phase. And speaking mostly on order experience as opposed to actual “field tests”.

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**Author:** ![Hirogen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hirogen/32/1219_2.png) [@Hirogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hirogen)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/13 "2008-07-28T20:55:41Z")

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SiriusC: Thank you for the tips! 🙂 Will take them into consideration!

Copycat: Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Hirogen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hirogen/32/1219_2.png) [@Hirogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hirogen)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/14 "2008-08-11T22:13:57Z")

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I did it!!! (can’t believe it yet)

Ordered Ammunition, Instant Shine 2X, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty, Instant Gentleman, Turn up the Heat to-go and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) to-go today. The whole nine yards… 😉

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/15 "2008-08-11T23:34:16Z")

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Very nice order, Be sure to let us know if you need help and tell us how your doing 😉

Have fun

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Hirogen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hirogen/32/1219_2.png) [@Hirogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hirogen)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/16 "2008-08-12T06:46:33Z")

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I will. 🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2008, 9:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/17 "2008-08-12T09:26:49Z")

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> [@](#):
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> You should get the double strength because it’s more cost effective & stretches out what you’ve bought. And you can always use less. For example, if you have a double strength [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) & it’s so overwhelming (it won’t be) that you need to use less, then just use half a spray. Conversely, if you have single strength [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) but want MORE out of it you might use 2-4 sprays. And that means the bottle’s gonna run out quicker AND that you have twice as much fragrance on you, which can turn some people off.

Just a word on getting double right off the bat. Never go straight to double with a anone product unless your over 40. Its not easy to do half sprays. Products with anone can cause the OD effect if used improperly.

Its fine with Ishine or some of the socials because generally you use more then one spray of those anyways in which case siriusc is correct its more cost effective and lasts longer.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Hirogen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hirogen/32/1219_2.png) [@Hirogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hirogen)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2008, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/18 "2008-08-13T23:16:25Z")

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From what I read in the forum I really agree. I have to say that Ammo is the one I’m a bit “afraid” of because it doesn’t seem to be as easy to use as the socials. And after some reading I’m definitely careful with A314. When I know how to use the other products I will maybe try that (didn’t order one).

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**Author:** ![Hirogen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hirogen/32/1219_2.png) [@Hirogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hirogen)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/16156/19 "2008-08-14T15:56:47Z")

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My package arrived today! Yesssss… 🙂 Came with a nice handwritten card in it and a free to-go of Come talk to me! Thank you Amy! How did you know that I was curious to see Come talk to me in action? 😉

I was so excited when I looked on the tracking site of DHL. When I held the package in my hands I couldn’t help myself and immediately tried 1 shot of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for going out to lunch. Wrists and neck. I had quite a good time with my colleagues but I think that was mainly because I was so damn excited. 😃 But what I did notice was that I couldn’t stop sniffing this nice scent. 😃

Question: In what form do you write your reports? Or what do you think is the best form? One thread for one product? New threads for combos? One long thread with all experiences in it (journal?) or… ?
