# Hi everyone! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [July 2, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/59478 "2013-07-02T00:01:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HypnoKitten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8491ac/32.png) [@HypnoKitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HypnoKitten)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2013, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/59478/1 "2013-07-02T00:01:22Z")
Hi everyone! I had been watching this forum on and off for a while, joined Pherotruth just a couple of days ago (same name)… I will try the products of all those companies eventually too, but since I got started here may as well really get started here. **So about me**. I love **all things learning** (every field, coding, art, psychology, sociology, trying to teach myself organic chem at the moment), **all things about free-will and its counterpoints** (hypnosis, phero, sociology: group-think, advertising - all this affect us, ignoring these effects does not mean we are free of them), **and all things sexual** (from ancient Mesopotamia’s prostitution deities and India’s tantric traditions to modern day D/s and poly relationships, along with every sexual orientation and interest in between). And I **love bolding stuff to make it easy** to skim in a hurry. And **how I plan to use pheros** / what I would love to get some suggestions on as I start out. Ok, I actually have lots and lots of plans / thoughts, but let me just start with one, which will likely sound incredibly redundant. **Setting** : Strip-club **Audience** : Dancers, female, one already a friend and a few going in that direction (that I have no problem creating). **19-25**. **Desired Effects** : **Increased arousal / sexual desire and comfort levels** , **What I’d like to avoid** : (1) Pure alpha setting, **‘bad boy’** , etc. It is just so far removed from my nature that I just can’t do it, and guessing they’re jaded enough against that at this point. Protector alpha sure, no problem, that comes naturally. (2) **Extra-talky space**. A little bit is fine, confiding in me more would be brilliant, but overboard would land this me straight in the no-no ‘friend-zone-access-only’ space I’d like to avoid. (3) Losing friends / coming off as just another guy trying to get into their non-existent panties. Which I of course am, that’s just not my only interest. And what I was somewhat looking into: **Tuth** - of course, its a club setting (what its designed for), has a sexual element when close to closing the deal (someone grinding in your lap I think kind of counts, even if you don’t intend to close it there and get them in trouble).. but the description of the age range (these women are not 30+) and increased aggression toward me (sounds like a pretty pure alpha setting) has me hesitating **Ammo** - sounds like a good starting point but it really sounds like a more general ‘hi there’ thing, not really any arousal elements to it? **A314** - again.. sounds good all around ‘look at me, I’m cool’.. but I’m pretty unclear on what that would do overall, and if there is a real sexual element to it I’ve seen a few threads on this topic already from advanced users mixing lots of stuff (like Data4’s [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/strip-club-pheromone-testopalooza/5880](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/strip-club-pheromone-testopalooza/5880)).. suggestions for a newbie just getting started though? (Since I’ve also read the newbie tip of not layering on ten different things until you have no clue what’s doing what) So hi! That was me! Can’t wait to hear your advice, how to get the $25 toward my starter set, and then let you all know how it went! ---
**Author:** ![Ivoryrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/278dde/32.png) [@Ivoryrose](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ivoryrose)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/59478/2 "2013-07-03T11:07:45Z")
> [@HypnoKitten](#): > > Hi everyone! I had been watching this forum on and off for a while, joined Pherotruth just a couple of days ago (same name)… I will try the products of all those companies eventually too, but since I got started here may as well really get started here. > > **So about me**. I love **all things learning** (every field, coding, art, psychology, sociology, trying to teach myself organic chem at the moment), **all things about free-will and its counterpoints** (hypnosis, phero, sociology: group-think, advertising - all this affect us, ignoring these effects does not mean we are free of them), **and all things sexual** (from ancient Mesopotamia’s prostitution deities and India’s tantric traditions to modern day D/s and poly relationships, along with every sexual orientation and interest in between). And I **love bolding stuff to make it easy** to skim in a hurry. > > And **how I plan to use pheros** / what I would love to get some suggestions on as I start out. Ok, I actually have lots and lots of plans / thoughts, but let me just start with one, which will likely sound incredibly redundant. > **Setting** : Strip-club > **Audience** : Dancers, female, one already a friend and a few going in that direction (that I have no problem creating). **19-25**. > **Desired Effects** : **Increased arousal / sexual desire and comfort levels** , > **What I’d like to avoid** : (1) Pure alpha setting, **‘bad boy’** , etc. It is just so far removed from my nature that I just can’t do it, and guessing they’re jaded enough against that at this point. Protector alpha sure, no problem, that comes naturally. (2) **Extra-talky space**. A little bit is fine, confiding in me more would be brilliant, but overboard would land this me straight in the no-no ‘friend-zone-access-only’ space I’d like to avoid. (3) Losing friends / coming off as just another guy trying to get into their non-existent panties. Which I of course am, that’s just not my only interest. > > And what I was somewhat looking into: > **Tuth** - of course, its a club setting (what its designed for), has a sexual element when close to closing the deal (someone grinding in your lap I think kind of counts, even if you don’t intend to close it there and get them in trouble).. but the description of the age range (these women are not 30+) and increased aggression toward me (sounds like a pretty pure alpha setting) has me hesitating > **Ammo** - sounds like a good starting point but it really sounds like a more general ‘hi there’ thing, not really any arousal elements to it? > **A314** - again.. sounds good all around ‘look at me, I’m cool’.. but I’m pretty unclear on what that would do overall, and if there is a real sexual element to it > > I’ve seen a few threads on this topic already from advanced users mixing lots of stuff (like Data4’s [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/strip-club-pheromone-testopalooza/5880](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/strip-club-pheromone-testopalooza/5880)).. suggestions for a newbie just getting started though? (Since I’ve also read the newbie tip of not layering on ten different things until you have no clue what’s doing what) > > So hi! That was me! Can’t wait to hear your advice, how to get the $25 toward my starter set, and then let you all know how it went! Hey there, HypnoKitten 🙂 In order to qualify for the $25 gc you should include some info about yourself… like what is your age, where do you live roughly (to give us a cultural perspective… not planning on stalking you 🙂 ) what is your personality like? Also they always want to know how you found this forum… what brought you here? I see you are looking at some seriously androstenone heavy/ sexual mixes. If you are younger you might want to consider some social products as well to buffer these mixes. If you are in your early 20s, you naturally produce ample androstenone. IG might be worth looking into. I just imagine it going over well with all those strippers 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2013, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/59478/3 "2013-07-03T12:02:08Z")
Hello and welcome! You seem to have done your reading but I will toss in, at your age you probably won’t need turn up the heat yet. ---
**Author:** ![HypnoKitten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8491ac/32.png) [@HypnoKitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HypnoKitten)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/59478/4 "2013-07-05T15:51:00Z")
@Ivoryrose - Oh good call! And here I was afraid I was being too thorough in post, and I still missed stuff! Age: I think is around 33-35. I don’t know, I don’t do the math unless I absolutely have to.. its like the thing where you set your alarm clock off so that you are never late for work / don’t stress? Something like that, I’m whatever age I feel, but its somewhere around there. Live: Oregon, the state of rain washed down by rain and interrupted by occasional rain. It never seems to get too cold, this month has actually been in the mid 80s, but that doesn’t last terribly long. Personality: Introvert lite. I can put on bursts of extrovert and have everyone laughing and and smiling and making sure no one is feeling left out, but it drains me and I need to retreat into a good book afterward. The larger the group, the more is going on, the quicker I get drained. I can do small talk (initially anyway. after a lot of meetings I tend to run out of things to say unless I have something in common with the person), most of the time though I listen - and I am a good active listener, perfect strangers naturally tend to tell me their deepest secrets within minutes of meeting me, looking quite confused as they do so. (No pheros necessary). All this used to drive me directly into the background-friend zone, so now I layer it with constant sexual innuendo to keep people from pigeon-holding me too easy. This tends to work for long-games (like ‘I need someone to play with.. well, he’s available I guess, why not give it a shot’) but not short-game ‘lets get out of here’ kind of stuff. Hmm.. what else might apply.. Easy for me to lead (people tend to follow along naturally when I try) but I usually try not to unless I need to get something done - so like extroversion I can put on bursts of alpha (no mones) and people follow in a daze and run around doing what I say, but it drains me a lot. I only do it when people are really going the wrong direction or if everyone is looking around for someone to take charge. And since it may apply, in D/s I am a Dom but more on the protector / playful side - ‘hey lets try this cool new technique I learned!’ rather than ‘lick my boots’. Mmm.. what else.. oh, I can be a bit of an ocd perfectionist.. not extremely so but I am always making graphs and charts and such of everything, I spend days or weeks researching things to grok them rather than just skimming for ‘how to’ instructions, I want to learn about anything and everything, and I get bored easily with things that are too easy - I can’t really perform dull activities. Rewrite a program in a language I’ve never seen? Let’s do it! Wash dishes? Umm… maybe later. Found this forum: google. Because google rocks that way. And while my mind is still in its 20s or earlier, I’m somewhere in my 30s.. soooo should I look into androstenone? And @ryanmercer , when you say at my age roughly what age do you mean? I thought Tuth was good for people past 30 or so? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/59478/5 "2013-07-05T16:07:01Z")
TUTH is fine over 30 - In fact you can use it more widely and freely compared to younger guys. However, if you are around women in the 19-25 range, it may be too much as younger women tend to respond to a wider social/sexy signature instead of balls-out sexual. You do get exceptions though and a strip club environment is somewhere you are likely to find them. It is certainly less inhibited - which is also a situation you can make better use of overt pheros around younger women. Similarly, A314 is a very mature phero and IME women don’t really begin to tune-in to it fully till around the mid 20s. The lighter more social IG tends to go down better around the younger ones. A314/TUTH atound them might well come-off a bit too “horny old guy” for some. ---
**Author:** ![HypnoKitten](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8491ac/32.png) [@HypnoKitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HypnoKitten)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/59478/6 "2013-07-05T17:10:12Z")
I am so glad I posted this stuff - thank you for the feedback on that combination, I think you just saved me a lot of potential trouble! Yea, ‘horny old guy’ is absolutely the last thing I would ever want to project in any environment - I want people aroused (because that’s a fun state for people to be in imo) but I never want to make people uncomfortable. Mm.. IG sounds like another social one, protector kind of friend-zone… I get the need for that for calming people or using it to temper something else, but by its self I project that naturally already. People are usually very quick to trust me (for which I am grateful and I try to not let them down in that), its kind of what I’m trying to overcome. What would you suggest pairing that with? (I’ve gotten suggestions of other stuff not off this site, but I’m curious what on here I may want to look into) > [@mobocaster](#): > > TUTH is fine over 30 - In fact you can use it more widely and freely compared to younger guys. > > However, if you are around women in the 19-25 range, it may be too much as younger women tend to respond to a wider social/sexy signature instead of balls-out sexual. You do get exceptions though and a strip club environment is somewhere you are likely to find them. It is certainly less inhibited - which is also a situation you can make better use of overt pheros around younger women. > > Similarly, A314 is a very mature phero and IME women don’t really begin to tune-in to it fully till around the mid 20s. The lighter more social IG tends to go down better around the younger ones. A314/TUTH atound them might well come-off a bit too “horny old guy” for some. ---
**Author:** ![Ivoryrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/278dde/32.png) [@Ivoryrose](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ivoryrose)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/59478/7 "2013-07-07T17:24:31Z")
> [@HypnoKitten](#): > > Live: Oregon, the state of **rain washed down by rain and interrupted by occasional rain**. 😃 Hilarious! ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-everyone/59478/8 "2013-07-11T18:07:26Z")
Welcome Kitten, This is a super informal and not so tailored response if you will. I would luuuuuuuv to spend more time assisting you especially since you are a newbie. We are short staffed and these gift certificates are done manually. It takes a great deal and I am back logged. I am hoping that when I catch up on my work, I can start answering these intro threads the way I use to In fact, I am hoping that soon, someone more experienced than me can come in so I get to do what I am great at, customer service. Thank you for giving [pheromones](https://a314.com/) a chance. Your gc was issued!