# Hi From England, New Member

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**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [November 20, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434 "2010-11-20T23:10:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![under2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f07891/32.png) [@under2000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/under2000)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/1 "2010-11-20T23:10:41Z")

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Im 27 years old, male, from England.

I have been searching around for mones for some time now, and my research got me me to this forum. I have spent a vast amount of money on gaff mone products which dont work but are marketed very well. I have made an order from Athena because I was curious about their product.

I wish i would have found this website earlier! the amount of information on this forum is vast, and the products available from your store sound very interesting…im planning on ordering a range of the products to experiment.

So why? what do I want to achieve…well im 27 and have NEVER been confident with females, im still a virgin. I really want attention from females and hopefully have sex. I have read the perfect combinations for this on the forum and would really love to experiment to see if it works for me. I wouldnt consider myself unattractive, im 200lbs with 15% bodyfat, I workout religiously, and take care of myself.

I hope mones will give me that extra spark with the opposite sex 🙂

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/2 "2010-11-20T23:12:08Z")

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hey, welcome to PT… Don’t be unconfident… you are an attractive guy. Believe in yourself.  
I guess you got my message and decided to post. I am glad you did. We are here to help you.  
I suggest you start off with AMMO + IS. That should make you sexier and more charismatic to ladies.

Also, the products here are top quality. It is much better than Athens or other companies’ stuffs. To be better with ladies,  
I also suggest you go read some Mystery Method. It should help you gain confidence and learn some methods to interact with ladies better.

Additionally, I recommend you read and participate in men’s sections. There are many guys there who are going to and willing to help you. Radman - he is really good! You can even private message him and get some advice and tips how to approach and interact with girls you are interested. Although, I don’t need as much help, he still gives me good advices and helps me.

Again welcome, and we hope to see you around!

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**Author:** ![hschooler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7cd45c/32.png) [@hschooler](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hschooler)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/3 "2010-11-20T23:16:33Z")

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Woo, another Englishman on board.  
Welcome to phertalk 🙂.

You should try your hand at some Instant openess to melt away those barriers. It will make people want to come over and initiate conversation with you, even if it’s small talk. [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) will deepen the conversation as you’ll be giving off a trustworthy vibe.  
To give yourself a sexy man air, ammo is the way forward. Ammo increases attraction greatly as it contains androstenone, which is a very masculine pheromone. It also increases status.

I can assure you that these products are not gaff products, as you can probably see from the huge amount of people on this forum that have tried and tested them, they work 🙂.

Also, where would you mainly plan on using them, in what setting?

HS

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**Author:** ![JAYCEE1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JAYCEE1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JAYCEE1)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/4 "2010-11-20T23:17:50Z")

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Welcome!

I agree with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) + IS.

Ammo adds an attraction and sexual spark, IS makes the wearer seem more fun and outgoing. Together their effects are combined.

Good luck!

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/5 "2010-11-20T23:19:12Z")

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see how many posts you got already 😉

I told ya, we are very helpful 😃

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**Author:** ![under2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f07891/32.png) [@under2000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/under2000)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/6 "2010-11-20T23:23:33Z")

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lol - all these posts already, thanks so much for the suggestions, im going to make my order as soon as i get my gift $25 certificate come through. I was thinking Ammo as well, A314 sounds great, TUTH sounds amazing!

Im planning on using it at work, and also while im personal fitness training in the evening.

I might get one of each from the site, its better value as id save postage charge (as im in england) and then experiment from there…what do you think?

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/7 "2010-11-20T23:31:53Z")

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> [@under2000](#):
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> lol - all these posts already, thanks so much for the suggestions, im going to make my order as soon as i get my gift $25 certificate come through. I was thinking Ammo as well, A314 sounds great, TUTH sounds amazing!
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> Im planning on using it at work, and also while im personal fitness training in the evening.
> 
> I might get one of each from the site, its better value as id save postage charge (as im in england) and then experiment from there…what do you think?

I really don’t recommend A314 for you. I know, it is bummer but I tell you why not:

A314 means you are alpha; you feel sexy, manly, confident. You know you can get girls, so you approach and expect them to say yes to you. If you don’t act like this, girls will actually feel even more weird, so i suggest you try IG instead, if you want to still feel alpha.  
Tuth, like A314, not used correctly would negatively affect you. I suggest you hold on to that too, until you get used to mones and gain some confidence.

You know what? Try Mx297. It makes girls approach you more than other manly combos, so I suggest that!

However, I think ammo + IS + IO are better for you. IO makes girls chatty and giddy; it opens them up. Also, I recommend you try IH. IH makes girls feel warm and connected. If you want both effects get CTTM2.

So in short, these are what you should consider:

ammo, mx297, io, ih, ig and is.

if u can’t afford those, the top three would be: ammo, Mx297 and IO

good luck…

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**Author:** ![under2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f07891/32.png) [@under2000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/under2000)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2010, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/8 "2010-11-21T01:10:35Z")

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> [@CoolKatDC](#):
>
> I really don’t recommend A314 for you. I know, it is bummer but I tell you why not:
> 
> A314 means you are alpha; you feel sexy, manly, confident. You know you can get girls, so you approach and expect them to say yes to you. If you don’t act like this, girls will actually feel even more weird, so i suggest you try IG instead, if you want to still feel alpha.  
> Tuth, like A314, not used correctly would negatively affect you. I suggest you hold on to that too, until you get used to mones and gain some confidence.
> 
> You know what? Try Mx297. It makes girls approach you more than other manly combos, so I suggest that!
> 
> However, I think ammo + IS + IO are better for you. IO makes girls chatty and giddy; it opens them up. Also, I recommend you try IH. IH makes girls feel warm and connected. If you want both effects get CTTM2.
> 
> So in short, these are what you should consider:
> 
> ammo, mx297, io, ih, ig and is.
> 
> if u can’t afford those, the top three would be: ammo, Mx297 and IO
> 
> good luck…

Thanks so much for your recommendations - I will get those and let you know how i get on.

So these products you recommended “ammo, mx297, io, ih, ig and is” - would i put all of these on at the same time?

I loved the idea of CTTM2, but thats out of stock right now.

Also, is the coupon sent to me automatically?

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2010, 1:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/9 "2010-11-21T01:11:35Z")

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Coolkat’s right about the A314, it a truly awesome product and I don’t doubt that later on down the line you might benefit from it but it’s not usually something I recommend for newbies.  
First, being oil based and thus slower diffusing it’s more subtle than spray products…which means you need a little sharper of an eye to spot when and how it’s working.

Secondly since it’s a respect based product it requires more congruence than a lot of other products…ie people may get the message your sending out with it but if you don’t act the part they will disregard it.

Beyond that, since it IS a respect product it can sometimes be intimidating, being shy while wearing A314 can easily be misinterpreted as being stuck up or snobby.

Ammo is a great solid all around product. It has Androsterone (the main ingredient in A314 and IG) which communicates maturity and status, Androstenone (main ingredient in Instant Jerk and TuTH) which communicates physical health, assertiveness and sexual vitality and Alpha Androstenol (the main ingredient in Instant Openness) which communicates a fun approachable personality of somebody that’s easy to talk to.  
It contains all of these three molecules in equal portions making it fairly easy to be congruent with.  
Add some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) which gives off a youthful energetic sort of charisma and you have a VERY attractive pheromone signature.

Now this is a “wide net” combo which should up your attraction factor in general to most women…if and when a specific woman becomes an issue you can make adjustments with other products depending on circumstances and the personality of the woman in question.

Now as for the confidence issue…some people have reported that certain molecules Androsterone, Androstenone and TAA (in Instant Shine) can have mood lifting, and confidence lifting effects…don’t count on that, it happens with some people, others…not so much. If you do experience it, don’t depend on it lasting, you will most likely develop a tolerance to the molecule with repeated use.

I highly recommend getting the book “The Rules of the Game” by Niel Strauss AKA Style. In the book he has a 30 day program which covers both techniques as well as Inner Game or confidence issues. I figure Ammo+Shine (Possibly IO) in conjunction with following the program in his book should get you going quite well. Good luck and Happy Hunting.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/10 "2010-11-21T01:18:28Z")

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> [@under2000](#):
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> Thanks so much for your recommendations - I will get those and let you know how i get on.
> 
> So these products you recommended “ammo, mx297, io, ih, ig and is” - would i put all of these on at the same time?
> 
> I loved the idea of CTTM2, but thats out of stock right now.
> 
> Also, is the coupon sent to me automatically?

yeah, but wait till you get the free giftcard, so you save $25 😃

Don’t be in rush to try all of them at once. Try one by one and see how you can handle them. I would order " IO, AMMO, IH, IS and IG" and leave out [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/), and then, ask for Mx297 as a gift 😉

If Mickaelia is reading this she should take care of you.

Just be a little patient. If you do that you will get that giftcard and save on shipping.

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/11 "2010-11-22T06:26:07Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk under2000!

The guys gave you some excellent advice. As you first stated we offer not just [pheromones](https://a314.com/) but so much information and assistance on every topic you can think of.

In cases like yours I always know and recommend that you learn as much as possible from the PUA’s on this forum and soon enough you will start to see things turn around.

You work out so that means you are producing a good amount of pheromones and you are still young. 😛

I think you should start with products like Ammo and shine that will boast your confidence and lighten your mood helping to relax.

Instant openness and honesty to get conversation going and creating an intimate moment.

Once you get a good handle of each of these products start mixing for a certain desired effect and according to the target.

As you go along you will learn which techniques and products will be useful in sealing the deal.

Share your experiences with us as soon as you purchase your products and start testing.

Your gc was issued!

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**Author:** ![under2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f07891/32.png) [@under2000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/under2000)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/12 "2010-11-22T13:18:18Z")

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thanks so much, im going to make the order tonight when i get home from work.

im really excited about getting started and sharing my experiences with you mones gurus 😉

Thanks for the gc 😉

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/13 "2010-11-22T16:54:07Z")

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> [@under2000](#):
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> thanks so much, im going to make the order tonight when i get home from work.
> 
> im really excited about getting started and sharing my experiences with you mones gurus 😉
> 
> Thanks for the gc 😉

Soon, you will be posting your journal and experiences here and with your sharpened senses, be a mones guru as well!

Use your knowledge for the light side, beware of the easy and seductive path to the dark side…! According to Yoda… 😃

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**Author:** ![under2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f07891/32.png) [@under2000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/under2000)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/14 "2010-11-22T21:56:53Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
>
> Soon, you will be posting your journal and experiences here and with your sharpened senses, be a mones guru as well!
> 
> Use your knowledge for the light side, beware of the easy and seductive path to the dark side…! According to Yoda… 😃

I sure will 🙂

Ive JUST placed my order, $200 worth! I got Ammo, and all the socials to experiment with - now i just cant wait to get them and test them out!

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/15 "2010-11-22T21:59:01Z")

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> [@under2000](#):
>
> I sure will 🙂
> 
> Ive JUST placed my order, $200 worth! I got Ammo, and all the socials to experiment with - now i just cant wait to get them and test them out!

wow, you are such DARE-DEVIL… What did you get? I am usually more skeptical, so i order a few things at a time. Like i said, don’t spray a whole bunch at once. sTart off slow, one spray at a time…

like 2 sprays of ammo or 2x ammo + 2x is per day and walk around and talk to girls.

The key is TALK TO GIRLS, ok? 😉 if you need more advice… post in men’s section…

From now on, post there, and you should get more help!

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**Author:** ![under2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f07891/32.png) [@under2000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/under2000)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/16 "2010-11-22T22:04:12Z")

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> [@CoolKatDC](#):
>
> wow, you are such DARE-DEVIL… What did you get? I am usually more skeptical, so i order a few things at a time. Like i said, don’t spray a whole bunch at once. sTart off slow, one spray at a time…
> 
> like 2 sprays of ammo or 2x ammo + 2x is per day and walk around and talk to girls.
> 
> The key is TALK TO GIRLS, ok? 😉 if you need more advice… post in men’s section…
> 
> From now on, post there, and you should get more help!

LOL ! thanks. I promise i wont be shy 🙂

I got:

Ammo  
“Instant Openness”  
“Instant Honesty”  
“Instant Shine”  
“[Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/)”

I will do one at a time, im going to start with ammo. The reason i got $200 worth is because it gives free international shipping.

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**Author:** ![leaf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ec9cab/32.png) [@leaf](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leaf)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-england-new-member/43434/17 "2010-12-14T15:03:45Z")

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Hi great post,

if i was going to buy 2 product i would go for IS ammo.

2 sprays of ammo and 3 of IS.

i also live in the UK and it works out better having a big order because shipping free of charge

trust me you won’t regret it.

Good luck
