# Hi from Hamilton **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 16, 2008, 12:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-hamilton/22942 "2008-11-16T12:37:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jedtheheadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/51bf81/32.png) [@jedtheheadog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jedtheheadog)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 12:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-hamilton/22942/1 "2008-11-16T12:37:29Z")
Hi to all My names jed a male, 19 and living in hamilton new zealand previously ordered in the past but didnt really give them a good enough go Mainly wanting them to improve my success with women looking to getting instant gentlemen, turn up the heat and instant openess any reccomendations you guys can make? Also the $25 gift certificate would be great πŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 12:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-hamilton/22942/2 "2008-11-16T12:48:45Z")
Hello jed, Great to have you here in Pherotalk πŸ˜ƒ Welcome πŸ™‚ I see you have ordered some phero but you did not give them a good go, mind telling what is the phero that you ordered there? Well good choices in your phero selection there but i will suggest AMMO as well because it is a sexual attractant phero & a favourite here among the phero users here too πŸ™‚ But you got to tell us more about yourself like your personality(shy or outgoing something like that) so that we can give you better recommendations πŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-hamilton/22942/3 "2008-11-16T12:55:32Z")
Welcome Jed!!! Ammo and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) are good suggestions for better success with women. TUTH is moreso for the bedroom and for older guys, so I would skip that for more socials so that women will not only be attracted, but will also feel good with you and want to date you. Instant Openness is a good choice. Also consider Instant Shine to seem cooler and feel better and Instant Honesty can make a girl feel like she has known you forever. ---
**Author:** ![chicagokid1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/53a042/32.png) [@chicagokid1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chicagokid1)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-hamilton/22942/4 "2008-11-16T15:14:50Z")
Hey jed welcome to the board, Everyone here that i know who has tried the products at smartmones are pleasently surprised at the results. They are not a magic bullet though, you will still have to most of the work yourself, they only help to grease the wheels so to speak. I also second the suggestion of ammo over turn up the heat, since its better buffered, also social products are great for women in your age range. Sometimes too much none can scare away younger women. do you have a specific target if so her age and ethnicity can play a part in selection of pheros. good luck πŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-hamilton/22942/5 "2008-11-16T23:27:14Z")
Hello Jed, Welcome to Pherotalk πŸ™‚ The GC does help but I need more information before you qualify for it. Some info on yourself and your personality, Your objective for mone use. What you used before that you had trouble with and how you used it is you recall. These will help us help you find what will work for you. Looking forward to your reply Tisha ---
**Author:** ![jedtheheadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/51bf81/32.png) [@jedtheheadog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jedtheheadog)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 10:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-hamilton/22942/6 "2008-11-17T10:51:24Z")
Thanks for your replys guys I would love to get all the products again and give them a good go but money is the main factor the usd has become really strong compared to the nzd (almost 2:1) and with $60usd for shipping i cant afford to order many products I think last time i was too quick to judge and didnt give them good enough go I got instant shine, instant female magic, and ammo Instant shine i didnt notice any self effects (maybe im a non responder) and didnt really notice any effects on people around me Instant female magic when i wore it i got told i smelt like bad bo?? lol but i did cover it sometimes with my own cologne and seemed it worked ok notice females to be more friendly with me Ammo to be honest i wore it lots and also compared it to just wearing my normal cologne and didnt such notice much difference. and then i accidentaly knocked over the bottle once when i was guna make a custom mix and the ammo went all over the floor so was wwasted and didnt really get to give it a good try I think i also lack a bit of social awarness which could have been a factor in me not doing well. brought myself a copy of magic bullets now so going to see if i can work on that Im generally quite an outgoing person but seem to freeze up a bit around girls so essentially looking for something that will help them be more open to me and also something that will boost my confidence I was thinking instant gentleman as alot of people report a james bond effect alot of people here are saying mx103 is great aswell?? I was thinking TUTH over ammo because i like my own cologne better and dont want itto clash And was thinking instant openess to buffer the TUTH when i use it in your guys opinion what is better instant openess, honesty, or CTTM 2? No specific girls targeting all in general πŸ™‚ I have a girl that im sort of on and off with but just want to date more woman in general and hopefully raise my self confidence with women a bit. so hoping a combination of magic bullets and [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) will be the way to go! ---
**Author:** ![jedtheheadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/51bf81/32.png) [@jedtheheadog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jedtheheadog)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 11:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-hamilton/22942/7 "2008-11-17T11:41:09Z")
Thanks for your replys guys I would love to get all the products again and give them a good go but money is the main factor the usd has become really strong compared to the nzd (almost 2:1) and with $60usd for shipping i cant afford to order many products I think last time i was too quick to judge and didnt give them good enough go I got [instant shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) , [instant female magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) , and [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) [Instant shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) i didnt notice any self effects (maybe im a non responder) and didnt really notice any effects on people around me [Instant female magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) when i wore it i got told i smelt like bad bo?? lol but i did cover it sometimes with my own cologne and seemed it worked ok notice females to be more friendly with me [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to be honest i wore it lots and also compared it to just wearing my normal cologne and didnt such notice much difference. and then i accidentaly knocked over the bottle once when i was guna make a custom mix and the [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) went all over the floor so was wwasted and didnt really get to give it a good try I think i also lack a bit of social awarness which could have been a factor in me not doing well. brought myself a copy of magic bullets now so going to see if i can work on that Im generally quite an outgoing person but seem to freeze up a bit around girls so essentially looking for something that will help them be more open to me and also something that will boost my confidence I was thinking [instant gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) as alot of people report a james bond effect alot of people here are saying [mx103](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is great aswell?? I was thinking [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) over [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) because i like my own cologne better and dont want itto clash And was thinking instant openess to buffer the [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) when i use it in your guys opinion what is better instant openess, honesty, or CTTM 2? No specific girls targeting all in general [![](https://pheromonetalk.com/introductions-new-users-say-hello-get/images/smilies/smile.gif) ](https://pheromonetalk.com/introductions-new-users-say-hello-get/images/smilies/smile.gif) I have a girl that im sort of on and off with but just want to date more woman in general and hopefully raise my self confidence with women a bit. so hoping a combination of magic bullets and pheromones will be the way to go! ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-hamilton/22942/8 "2008-11-17T11:52:24Z")
Just a thought but I read a post the other day which went something like this β€œammo lets the ladies know you are interested, TUTH says β€˜nice shoes, wanna fuck?’” If you don’t have a relationship with a girl, TUTH is likely to scare her off. Given that you tend to freeze around the ladies, can I suggest [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and IFM. The IS will make them (and you) feel good, the IFM will increase the likeability, start to break down the social barriers and pave the way for TUTH at a later date. ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-hamilton/22942/9 "2008-11-17T13:11:25Z")
Hmm, i see you have bought a couple of pheros from here, good selection btw but sorry to hear about what happened to your AMMO there. Anyway you got to have patience testing out these pheros as it take time for these pheros to show results sometime instant sometime you just got to wait longer. Ok foe situation there, i see diamond have given you some good recommendation which i agreed too especially his recommendation of Instant Shine. So since you have Instant Shine there, continue testing it to deal with your shyness there & also boost your self confidence as well. I would recommend that you get [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to get women to open up to you there. Instant Openness is used for smoother, better & longer conversations btw πŸ™‚ Also that quote that diamond saw in a previous post, that was josef quote & he’s right TUTH is like nice shoes or hair, so wanna fuck?" That’s the effects of TUTH in which you will scare that girl off if you don’t want a relationship there. I suggest you try AMMO once again with some socials like Instant Openness or Instant Shine & see how it does for you there πŸ™‚ See you πŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![jedtheheadog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/51bf81/32.png) [@jedtheheadog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jedtheheadog)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-hamilton/22942/10 "2008-11-17T23:23:34Z")
Thanks for that guys ill take your advice πŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-hamilton/22942/11 "2008-11-17T23:49:02Z")
Hi Thanks for providing more info. πŸ™‚ TUTH should only be used in one on one situations and in sexual atmospheres so keep that in mind when using it. Women can be effected in other environments but they will mask those reactions because they are occurring in a inappropriate venue. Mones are meant to effect others not you, some people get self effects some dont. Dont judge them on self effects, Your conscious of them, Mones effect the subconscious mind. IFM dosnt come with a cover, just a herbal additive so yes you need to cover it. The best way to cover anything smelly is to apply it, let it dry down 10 to 15 minutes then cover. The wait prevents bleed through of the scent. MX103 is good but reported to smell like sour milk. Be prepared to cover. IO is good to buffer TUTH but you still need to wear it in a appropriate setting. AMMO has 2 other buffers in it. If you not socially aware look at the body language link in my signature for some basic body language tips. Invest in the book Social Awareness by Daniel Goleman [http://images.amazon.com/images/P/055338449X.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/?tag=citofgamonlco-20) Lastly I like CTTM and IH over IO, They are more deep and serious then IO alone which is fun friendly and chatty. **Your GC is on its way** πŸ˜ƒ This time if you need help ask πŸ˜‰ Tisha