# Hi from Holland

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [April 14, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168 "2008-04-14T20:11:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![AKG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@AKG](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AKG)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/1 "2008-04-14T20:11:02Z")

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Hi folks,

Since I first heard about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) I always wondered whether it’s the real deal or just to good to be true. So I go surfing on the net to get some info on the subject.I automatically click on the first info I can find and go from there.

After some reading I thought I found something that was worth while, but then I didn’t know if this stuff was really going to do what is claimed, or just waste my time (and money).

Luckily I found this forum and it seems like a reliable source of information. You can learn a lot from the threads of the other members.

So after a lot of reading and searching I still didn’t know what product was the best I could buy.

So I would like to ask you guys what product I should try before getting more.

Talk to you soon…

AKG

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**Author:** ![Piolho](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/piolho/32/2271_2.png) [@Piolho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Piolho)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/2 "2008-04-14T20:24:35Z")

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Welcome

[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 😉 is a good way

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**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2008, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/3 "2008-04-14T20:57:16Z")

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Hi AKG,  
first of all, welcome to the forum! Here there are many great people that will be happy of helping you. As you had the chance to read in this Forum, here we talk about Pheros and we research the best ways to use them in the best ways. So, if you give us some more information about yourself, and for what you wish to use Pheros (dating, work, etc…), we’ll be happy of helping you. I suggest to focus on some “Consumer” Pheros like AMMO, Instant Shine and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), maybe in TOGO size, so you can save some money and test more, and you can also choese wich ones suits the best to you. Keep us updated!!!

See ya

Franz

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**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/4 "2008-04-15T01:02:56Z")

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Hey AKG, welcome to the forum 🙂

please give us some more info bout urself so we can give u some suggestion. wat do want from mones? wat type of vibe r u going for? Sexual, trust, openness, good mood/humor, attraction, comfort… as u can c there are many different vibes that u can achieve with different mixes.

BTW: does AKG stand for something?

cya around

bond

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**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/5 "2008-04-15T04:35:43Z")

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Hi AKG,  
Welcome to the community.  
Runner is right, please tell us more about yourself, what do you want to achieve from [pheromone](https://a314.com/) and who are your target.

Once you tell us more, you will qualify for the gift certificate.

If you have any question, just ask. The people here is friendly.

Have fun

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2008, 9:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/6 "2008-04-15T09:27:10Z")

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

A little info about your personality can help us point you to the best product for you.

Without that I suggest AMMO and IO. Keep in mind that they have to-go bottles so you can try things out and see how you like them. I love that about smartmones 😃

If you have any questions just ask.

😃 **Your GC will be in your email box in the next 24 to 48 hours 😃**

Have fun

Tisha

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**Author:** ![AKG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@AKG](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AKG)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2008, 2:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/7 "2008-04-16T14:37:49Z")

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Wow,

I didn’t expect response within such a short time. Thank you guys!

To answer some of the questions and to give more insight to who I am:

I am of mixed origin (dad from India, mom from Surinam, I am born in Holland), so you can say that my skin tone is (light) brown. Aged 29, as you may have noticed.

I usually go to bars to have a drink and check out the ladies. I normally have no problem with approaching a girl and starting a conversation. However, I won’t object if this could be easier (e.g. her approaching me).  
The vibe I’m going for is sexual, attraction, humor, comfort.

There’s no need to get sexual on the first night, but I would like to be closer to them, or better said I would like for them to be closer to me 😃. In that respect I am definitely a pleasure delayer.

So you can say that it is mainly in the dating area that I will be using the products. I’m not the type that goes to the club every week, but every once in a while.

My main target are mostly mixed girls (tanned or coloured), and I don’t make any distinction what mix. I usually don’t go for the black girls, but that does not mean that I won’t.

My plan:

- Checking out if this really works (for me), if so then
- Get more advise from you guys and definitely buy some more
- Keep you guys updated on the progress / development

BTW Bond: AKG are my initials, but many creative ideas could be applied as well (Ass Kicking Good, All Knowing Greatness, etc). However, as I am just a rookie here, I’ll stick to AKG… for now.

Update:  
I ordered A314 and can’t 'till it gets here to try it out.

Ciao,  
A

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**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/8 "2008-04-17T02:34:14Z")

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all good goals and info… be sure to tell us how the A314 goes for u… and u can join the A314 club 😃

u order anything else?

bond

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**Author:** ![AKG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@AKG](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AKG)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2008, 12:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/9 "2008-04-18T12:40:43Z")

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Quick update: I ordered on Monday and DHL showed up the next Thursday. Of course nobody was home, but today they will try again.

I this works out, I’m definitely ordering more.

C U,  
A

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**Author:** ![ponderu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ponderu/32/465_2.png) [@ponderu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ponderu)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/10 "2008-04-20T01:59:54Z")

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> [@AKG](#):
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> Quick update: I ordered on Monday and DHL showed up the next Thursday. Of course nobody was home, but today they will try again.
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> I this works out, I’m definitely ordering more.
> 
> C U,  
> A

Welcome to the forum, just wondering how things are going and if you have had any results so far. I had pretty quick self results with A314. Keep us informed and feel free to ask questions if you have any.  
Ponderu

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**Author:** ![AKG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@AKG](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AKG)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/11 "2008-04-25T16:04:14Z")

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Hi again,

Quick update:

Yesterday I went for a drink with a friend and I used 2 drops of A314 on the wrists and at the back of the ear and on my neck (sides). The smell is ok, however, I did a slight buzz from it. 😕 The buzz sorta kept me from feeling at ease and getting down to business. After some hours it went away, but I wonder if the buzz will get worse if I apply more.

Tonight is the night that I am going out longer than yesterday so I’ll try it out again and let you guys know.

Cheers,  
A

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/12 "2008-04-25T20:52:43Z")

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> [@](#):
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> but I wonder if the buzz will get worse if I apply more.

Nope it wont get worse, you had the typical “Phero Buzz” that some new users get when they first use the products. Its just your brain saying “holy sheeet that is so cool, do it again LOL” Once you become accustomed to them it wont happen anymore.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![ponderu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ponderu/32/465_2.png) [@ponderu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ponderu)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2008, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/13 "2008-04-26T06:21:40Z")

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That is similar to the self effects I had when I first used it, now I find it makes me much more driven at work. Did you notice any effects on other people?  
Good report and we will be waiting to hear how your doing.  
Ponderu

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**Author:** ![AKG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/71e660/32.png) [@AKG](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AKG)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/11168/14 "2008-04-28T16:10:55Z")

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Back with another update (A314):

The buzz is indeed nothing to worry about. I just had it once (that first time applying it) and after that everything was fine. I even tried a heavier dose (first 2 drops, then 4) and all was well.

Now for the interesting part:  
I went to a club with a friend and I had about 4 to 5 drops applied behind the ear, on the neck and the lower arms all masked with a nice cologne.  
Talking to the ladies was no problem, nothing solid, just small talk. At a certain time we went to stand near a table and I really didn’t notice it at first, but after some minutes we were surrounded by women. Of course I immediately thought of the -mones, but skeptic as I am I thought that it was just a sweet spot in the club (hmm…). It seemed that we were standing exactly on the route that the women walked.

There was definitely some eye contact and interest here and there, but I didn’t follow through with any actions… yet!

I guess I still am not convinced. I will of course have some more experiments with it, but I still wander if this effect is really the -mones or just my imagination. And if it are the -mones, which ones should I try (read get) to magnify the effect on the ladies?

I also want to try it out in a more relaxed environment (bar/cafe), so that will be one of my next tests.

I’ll try it on to work as well and let you guys know how it turns out to be.

Ciao,
