# "Hi" from Holland **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 19, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/35564 "2010-01-19T16:20:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wotsupdoc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wotsupdoc/32/2356_2.png) [@wotsupdoc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wotsupdoc)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/35564/1 "2010-01-19T16:20:43Z")
I 'm a 55 year old caucasian guy from Holland, and I 'm in a so-called “Friendship plus” relationship for about a month or so with a 40- year old caucasian woman. The thing is, we 're both in a different fashion-segment: she’s in a designer-clothes style and I’m more in a eco-hippy-non-fashion thing (I really hate to pay in order to make advertisements on my clothes for large brands). Anyway, she says I look like a hobo (which is fine with me, but she means it as an insult) or a tramp. So she doesn’t want to have an LTR with me, just friendship with sex (and the sex is GREAT 😃, when she’s in the mood for it). So I’m thinking: Alpha A314 And she 's always frantically running around and in the evening she usually is too tired to have sex, so I’m thinking: Turn Up The Heat. She really likes my voice, so on the phone she has all her attention fixed on me and can’t get enough of it, but in real life she never looks me in the eye, touches or kisses me, but she loves it when I play with her head or hair or give her a back-rub (haven’t met a woman who doesn’t like a back-rub). And she’s always cold, she will wear boots and a sweater in high-summer on the beach in Corsica (Spanish isle) Curious to see what TUTH will do for her. The real question is, however, what dosage do I use, because everything I read in the forums about dosage refers to younger people. And where do I appy those products? And another thing: A mate of mine wants me to find investors for his coppermine. I have no experience neither in hi-finance or mining, so I suppose Alpha A314 will serve me fine Let me hear what you think of it. TIA! ---
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/35564/2 "2010-01-19T16:39:34Z")
Hi, Welcome aboard.😉 Well your situation is kind of strange.I have no idea why this woman do not anythig more than fuck-buddies but gives signals for interest in you. But maybe you’ll have to change your dressing and grooming stile as to suit her needs.Some women are just like that.They want their guy to look some perticular way and if he doesn’t - they start getting cold in the relationship.For instance my ex ( big boobed, natural blondem green eyes) wanted me not to drink beer.And we broke.Cause that was too wierd to me and I do love good beer.😃 So maybe she likes you but she has some image for the perfect guy and you should be exactly like that.Or maybe not.Maybe it’s something else.Do not know her as to say what it could be. Try to change something in your looks and see what happens. 😉 As for sexual attraction - well TUTH is good.[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) also contains anmdrostenone but it’s more complex formula so this can be even better. Although someone near your age has to recomend you the dosage. A314 is good product witch will higher you status in her and others’ eyes but you should act accordingly as to have maximum effect.It is good for negotiations .U should consider using it with IH on bussiness negotiations 'cause this combo makes people to be more honest with you and this will help have more open bussiness talk. Wish you all the best and have fun. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![wotsupdoc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wotsupdoc/32/2356_2.png) [@wotsupdoc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wotsupdoc)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/35564/3 "2010-01-19T17:15:02Z")
> [@Casanova](#): > > Hi, > As for sexual attraction - well TUTH is good. Ammo also contains anmdrostenone but it’s more complex formula so this can be even better. Unfortunately, Ammo is on back-order for quite some time now, so that’s not an option, I’d try IFM also, if it were available. Guess I’ll just have to wait for those 2 products to become available. Thanks for the tip, I’ve added IH and IO to my shopping list, just hope to take advantage of my initial discounts (the $5 and $25 discounts) when I figure out on how to get/apply it ---
**Author:** ![LucidDreamer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/luciddreamer/32/2141_2.png) [@LucidDreamer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LucidDreamer)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/35564/4 "2010-01-19T18:43:03Z")
Hello! And welcome to the forum! This is odd…I’ve never known a woman to act that way in a guy she was interested in… Well no two people are exactly the same! I’d definitely recommend [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)…for such a wise aged user, I’d recommend starting out with at least 3 sprays and work up to find your sweet spot. If you want more than just the friends with sex situation, I’d also throw in Instant Honesty to spark more of an intimate connection. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/35564/5 "2010-01-19T20:45:36Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Doc! Women are certainly strange creatures but you stumbled upon a classic. We gyals wants our men to change certain things but since we love them and want to be with them we are patient and work with them while we are in a relationship. It seems she might be just using an excuse to justify or cover up the fact that she just want to use you. You are a piece of meat at this point. I don’t suggest you change too much for her and make her call the shots, she needs to respect you and know that you run things. A314 and Instant gentleman are two great products for that. The products are available but personally I think you need help with the guys to up your game so that this woman doesn’t take advantage of you and if things don’t work out to ensure that this doesn’t happen with another. Your GC will be issued soon! ---
**Author:** ![wotsupdoc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wotsupdoc/32/2356_2.png) [@wotsupdoc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wotsupdoc)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/35564/6 "2010-01-20T00:33:25Z")
> [@kelsey](#): > > It seems she might be just using an excuse to justify or cover up the fact that she just want to use you. You are a piece of meat at this point. Fortunately, it’s not the worst thing 😃, she’s a hottie, and I’m mad about her. But all jokes aside, yes, I 'd feel pretty lousy if she got her way and we’d keep on fuckung until one of us found another person we like better, like this is some temporary, disposable fling. Problem is, she says she isn’t ready to commit herself in an LTR. > [@kelsey](#): > > I don’t suggest you change too much for her and make her call the shots, she needs to respect you and know that you run things. You 're right about that one, she certainly likes to call the shots. She claims it’s because of the kids, her job and her school, always in a hurry, and no room for change I have no kids, I study whenever I like, and I have my own company, so I work whenever and as much as I want/need to, and I 'm very laid-back. So I’m much more flexible than her. > [@kelsey](#): > > A314 and Instant gentleman are two great products for that. But isn’t IG supposed to give me a more “elderly” appearence? I’m already 15 years older than her. I hate the “come to daddy” thing. A month or so I pulled a woman (that was like 8 years younger than I am) onto my lap (I 've had a knee condition for the last 2 months now) and she said “sitting on daddy’s lap” It turned me off completely (and i 'm 196 cm = 77.2 in). I love women and I don’t care about their ages, sometimes the’re older than I am, sometimes they’re younger, but I prefer them being the same age I am, so making the age-difference even bigger, doesn’t strike me as particulary attractive. > [@kelsey](#): > > I think you need help with the guys to up your game so that this woman doesn’t take advantage of you and if things don’t work out to ensure that this doesn’t happen with another. Hm, you **do** have a point there, I give a LOT in relationships, and I get awfully little in return. You see, when I give, I expect nothing in return -and that’s exactly what I get- and it’s a pattern I repeat in every LTR **So any advice would be welcome.** ---
**Author:** ![denigro153](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denigro153/32/772_2.png) [@denigro153](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denigro153)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2010, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-holland/35564/7 "2010-01-21T05:09:38Z")
welcome your going to love this forum, and the knowledge you will soon acquire more rapidly then you can handle from all the users here, mones will definitely change your life for the better ! all the best Elliot