# Hi from Upstate NY **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [February 5, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-upstate-ny/8902 "2008-02-05T15:11:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mad\_Scientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Mad\_Scientist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mad_Scientist)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-upstate-ny/8902/1 "2008-02-05T15:11:18Z")
Hi. I am a 27 year old business owner from upstate NY. I am interested in pheromones for 2 specific reasons: 1.) For a possible advantage in business. 2.) Improve my dating scene. As for the business side of my interest I have read some of the sticky posts on the forum and anticipate my interest being primarily in A314, Instant Shine, Instant Honesty & [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). Now by no means do I intend to go out and buy all of these right out of the gate, but the identified effects could be a help to me here. As for the dating issue I am relatively good at meeting and talking with women out and about. I have a high self confidence and speak well with women I meet. I am however very respectful, contrary to the assumption only asses get attention (Not true), and that leads me more often than not sending the wrong signals to women that I am not interested in them. I’m amazed every time I make a move on a woman I’ve been spending time around and they respond with surprise (pleasant surprise mostly) thinking I wasn’t into them like that. A -none based product like turn up the heat may help me send the message with pheromones that I am not sending with my words or body language. In a general sense though I do have some questions about the contents in the products. I understand the chemicals found in sweat Androstenone, Androstenol & Adrosterone by having done some research independent of this site, but do not understand what is present in each product other than what is listed in the tech portion of some of the product descriptions. Also not all of the products have this type of description and few are very specific on every pheromone used. In general though I’m interested in the possible effects of some of the products and would like to try myself to see if they work as described. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-upstate-ny/8902/2 "2008-02-05T15:27:35Z")
Hello Welcome to the forum 🙂 They tell you just about all they have posted about what is in the products. This is to protect there formulas from various copy cat sites. Yes its a dog eat dog world in pheromone manufacturing and Androtics is the leader of the pack. The advanced section is kept very private and is just for experienced androtic users. These are products that are being tested for future release by the advanced testers. Orders from there need to be approved first. So while I can tell you basically what is in each formula. In some cases I cant tell you everything or exactly how much or they will cut out my tongue LOL J/K. So here go’s Instant Honesty is predominantly Bnols [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is anols A314 is 80% Androsterone with 15 other pheromones in it Instant Shine is altered TAA which is exclusive to Androtics. Ammo is Androstenone anols and Androsterone 2.5mcg each Turn Up The Heat is Androstenone unbuffered 2.5 mcg Any others you want to know ??? I could go on and on LOL You have made some great choices, Take your time and see how you like them and let us know. Keep in mind they come in to-go bottles so you can test them at low cost. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-upstate-ny/8902/3 "2008-02-05T15:42:47Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum. I think you were right on in most of your choices. I use all of these products - A314 and Instant shine on an almost daily basis. They would be perfect for work. Tisha has given you very good general descriptions of the rest. She is the moderator and resident expert on these products - and brings in a woman’s perspective for all us guys too. You can read in detail in the forum about the finer points of some of these products. My only recommendation would be to go with the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) over the straight TUTH. Ammo has the same amount of 'none as the TUTH but it is buffered and better suited for social purposes. Trust me - the 'none is strong enough to send out the signal you want sent. Ask if you have any more questrions. We will give you any advice and Tisha will tell you what she is allowed to. ---
**Author:** ![Mad\_Scientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Mad\_Scientist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mad_Scientist)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-upstate-ny/8902/4 "2008-02-05T15:51:29Z")
Thanks Tisha. Your post touched on many of the items I wanted to know about. While I am interested in the combinations & proportions for my own use & understanding (Mad Scientist doesn’t stray far from my profession though chemicals are not my business, think physics), I completely understand your need to keep some confidentiallity about the formulas. Knowing the main component used in each gives me a baseline for me to compare its effects between different products so I know what works for me and what similar products could also be useful. Thanks for the info. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-upstate-ny/8902/5 "2008-02-05T17:01:11Z")
Hello, It is I … Tisha 🙂 I am back to bestow upon you the coveted $15 GC. 😃 **It will be in your email box in the next 24 to 48 hours** 😉 Have fun Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Mad\_Scientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5e9695/32.png) [@Mad\_Scientist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mad_Scientist)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-upstate-ny/8902/6 "2008-02-22T20:32:30Z")
One more question. I recieved my first set of pheramones the other day in the mail. One thing that struck me was each one had a strong cologne smell to them. I am not much of a cologne wearer and for work in specific cologne is not used at all as it would be unproffesional for me to walk into a room smelling of cologne. There is also many closed door meetings I am in where the cologne would be magnified. It would be more appropriate to smell musky then perfumed. I could always cover up the smell with a product that smells like starch or fabric softener. Is there any product I could use and cover up with a scent of my own? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-from-upstate-ny/8902/7 "2008-02-22T20:58:55Z")
They smell different on then they do in the bottle. So try them and see how you do. I good tip from renny is to apply them while holding your nose and then after they settle and dry down a bit you will get more of a true perspective on exactly how strong they small on you. Most guys dont have a problem even in a work enviroment. There is alos this option from this post which may help… > [@How do I successfully purchase unscented AMMO on the website?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-successfully-purchase-unscented-ammo-on-the-website/9159): > > Thanks to any who help, im a bit confused on the website lol Tisha