# Hi guys,I Need some tips and advice. **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [September 24, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys-i-need-some-tips-and-advice/60086 "2013-09-24T14:31:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Frenchboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Frenchboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Frenchboy)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys-i-need-some-tips-and-advice/60086/1 "2013-09-24T14:31:53Z")
Hey guys, I’m a 21 years old male caucasian currently living in Asia. Now I want to start by saying that I have been testing Ammo and I am generally convinced that [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) do work. As a newb i purchased two to go bottles of Ammunition a week ago for testing. I would like to share with you guys my experience with it so far on the field: 1)clubbing: I applied 2 sprays, 1 on my chest and 1 on my wrist -Self effect: I noticed a huge boost of confidence, made me feel very relaxed, and made me more talkative -Social: guys were paying me more respect, guys were talking to me more. I could easily move around on the dance floor. normally i would have to push through people. At my table it felt as if i was the centre of attraction. -Women: I was outside of the club with 3 girls smoking. they were standing in a straight row and all 3 DIHLed, lol. they were starring into space and giving me random smiles now and then. At the table one girl who was standing behind me on the couch started grinding me. women were asking me if i was gay. it happened 3 times in the night. got 1 compliment for my smell. -result:got 2 makeouts 2)clubbing: this time i tried lowering the dosage to 1 spray on the chest. self effect: didn’t notice much Social: things felt normal, guys were treating me as per normal women: one of the girls that I Dihled on the 1 night put both of her hands on my shoulders as we were walking through the club , she also was a bit touchy with me for a short while. I guess the mones of the previous night hit her hard lmao. anyway not much to report on this second night out. 3)clubbing: so i decided to up my dose. 3 Sprays this time: 1 on each wrist and 1 on my chest. Self effect: I did feel the self effect of Ammo they just weren’t as strong as on the first day, i guess i am building up some tolerance. social: people were paying me respect, similar to the first night. women: women were touchy in general, just nothing as crazy as compared to the first night. got like 2 make outs Now from my understanding of how Ammo works: it is a well buffered blend so putting on more than your sweet spot wont usually cause OD, the results would just be lessened. which is what i guess happened on day 3. Now at this point of time I am more or less convinced that 2 sprays is my sweet spot for clubbing. 4)date: I texted a 2 week old number in my phone, asked her if she was free to meet up in the evening. said yes, so i went with 2 sprays.I tried to experiment more and went with two sprays to my chest. So i met up with her, walked around town,sat down. overall she wasn’t very responsive to me touching her.although she did seem to embrace it.I didn’t want to go for the kiss as her body language just wasn’t there: looking away most of the time. I do feel that she was interested in me: touched her hair a lot, gave me random smiles… anyway it felt like 2 sprays of ammo made me very intimidating in a date situation. now here are a few questions i would like to ask: 1)lets say my sweet spot is 2 sprays. which application point combo would you recommend: 1wrist,1 chest / 2 chest / 2wrist ? Also would the outcome usually be different or the same ? 2)Any recommendation on what to wear for dates? less ammo and or socials ? 3)I generally don’t have any problem without pheromones when it comes to getting a makeout in club. where i usually stuck is getting the girl horny on that same night at a club. now i feel ammo is a great overall but i’m wondering if products such as TUTH or IJ would work better at pulling on the same night. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2013, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys-i-need-some-tips-and-advice/60086/2 "2013-09-24T15:45:28Z")
Hey! Great testing so far. Sounds like you’ve got the handle on on it. Let me ask you, do you have the original version of AMMO, or the Summer or [World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/)? How old is the girl you went on a date with? It’s \*possible she was a little intimidated, but like you said, AMMO is very well buffered and usually doesn’t overpower the none at only two sprays. If you’re concerned though, and you get a chance at a 2nd date, I would try adding another social such as IH or more IO to see if it eases things. If you wanted to venture away from the consumer line, read up on P74, p83, and TAC. p74 is light and crushy, p83 is a disinhibitor, and TAC seems to relax them. One of my favorite mixes is actually AMMO, 83, and TAC… Now, onto your questions 1. Application points depend on proximity. If you have girls close to you, then your chest/neck work well. Otherwise, on your wrists is nice, because when you gesture with your hands, it’ll waft the mones outward amongst the crowd. 2. See my recommendations above 3. I’d give IJ a shot in a club environment. That’ll really pull on the arousal strings. TUTH seems to be reserved for the times when closing seems imminent and you just want to raise the bar even higher. Good Luck! ---
**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys-i-need-some-tips-and-advice/60086/3 "2013-09-25T03:54:49Z")
Fantastic! Glad to see yet another person having good results! I’d suggest adding some more stuff to your arsenal. As above I’d recommend p83 too, I’ve only read about it but I have a 30ml bottle coming this evening that I’m looking forward to adding to my mix. Right now I like to wear Ammo or [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) x2 sprays, with 3-5 sprays of Instant Shine and 2 of either instant Openness or Instant Honesty. As far as Instant Jerk, I’ve not yet tried it but you’ll see a lot of guys wearing it in club settings as mentioned above by sharkndragon. Welcome to the forums! How’d you come to find them? Once my p83 gets here tonight I’m going to add 2 of it to the mix and go from there. ---
**Author:** ![Frenchboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Frenchboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Frenchboy)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys-i-need-some-tips-and-advice/60086/4 "2013-09-28T03:51:21Z")
sorry for the late reply, thanks guys. im using standard ammo. So far the most common hit I am getting with ammo is a very flirtatious stare. I dont know why but when i sweet spot with ammo girls that like me tend to ask me if i’m gay. It works in my favour though so its all good. i’ve up rep both of you, and will mark the thread as answered soon. thanks! ---
**Author:** ![sharkndragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkndragon/32/426_2.png) [@sharkndragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkndragon)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2013, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys-i-need-some-tips-and-advice/60086/5 "2013-09-29T03:52:42Z")
My guess is the “gay” question is a safety device some girls use to kill a few birds with one stone: 1) find out if you’re available, 2) find out how you can handle a forward question, 3) find out if you’re actually gay. My best hits so far came with AMMO, p83, and TAC. Relaxed, Disinhibited, and Attracted. Thanks for the reps! Enjoy your trials ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys-i-need-some-tips-and-advice/60086/6 "2013-09-30T16:58:29Z")
Welcome Frenchboy, This is a super informal and not so tailored response if you will. I would luuuuuuuv to spend more time assisting you especially since you are a newbie. We are short staffed and these gift certificates are done manually. It takes a great deal and I am back logged. I am hoping that when I catch up on my work, I can start answering these intro threads the way I use to In fact, I am hoping that soon, someone more experienced than me can come in so I get to do what I am great at, customer service. Thank you for giving pheromones a chance. Your gc was issued!