# Hi guys! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [April 13, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696 "2010-04-13T00:39:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![martini13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@martini13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/martini13)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/1 "2010-04-13T00:39:24Z")
Hello everyone, I’m 21 years old, and currently living in Los Angeles, California. I was looking around yahoo news one day and I saw an interesting article about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). I did some research and discovered that this was one of the best types available. My story is, there’s this girl that I’ve known since I was a child, and she has grown up to be the girl of my dreams. I’m going on a short trip with her in a month as friends, but I kind of want to be more appealing to her to eventually begin a great relationship with her. Along with personality and looks, I am interested in testing a pheromone to see if it will help spice things up for us, or for any person I meet in the future. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/2 "2010-04-13T00:41:50Z")
Hi martini13, Welcome to the forum! What is the relationship with you and her as of now? Does she know you like her? I would suggest you get a product such as ammo, and if you can then Instant Shine along with it. Those 2 work great as a combo. As a started it would be great for you. And you knowing her long enough, you may even want to try out [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), which is used to deepen up the conversations. Ammo would be a great stand alone product, for whenever you meet someone. You may want to try Instant Shine with it, but as far as this girl is concerned, try out the Instant Honesty for the depth 🙂 I believe you should have qualified for the gift certificate! ---
**Author:** ![martini13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@martini13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/martini13)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/3 "2010-04-13T01:13:55Z")
She doesn’t know I like her, but I’m doing little things to show I care about her, which I hope will make me seem more appealing to her. Thanks for the tips! ---
**Author:** ![seekingadvice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@seekingadvice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seekingadvice)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/4 "2010-04-13T01:26:39Z")
> [@martini13](#): > > She doesn’t know I like her, but I’m doing little things to show I care about her, which I hope will make me seem more appealing to her. Thanks for the tips! Anytime martini! I suggest you to take advantage of an [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) along with Ammo for her 🙂 Sometimes you may want to keep Instant Shine around if you would like to enlighten the mood for yourself or for both! ---
**Author:** ![conundrum12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/46a35a/32.png) [@conundrum12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/conundrum12)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/5 "2010-04-13T06:46:29Z")
People have given some great advice, but i will throw in my 2 cents. If she already knows you really well and you are somewhat friendzoned, it’s going to be harder than if you just met her. But, she already trusts and like you, so that’s a definite benefit. I think you’ll need a bit more bang than just ammo or just IS or something like that to help win her over. In addition to being a bit more flirty, I’d definitely try some A314. I find A314 can give me status, and make girls look at me like a boyfriend. In addition to the A314, I’d add some [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) for a sexual kick and some a-nol. I’d start with A314 and Ammo and maybe 1 spray of IS to keep things light. Another approach might be just 1 spray of tuth with some IS after u try out the a314/ammo mix and get her more sexually interested. good luck! ---
**Author:** ![martini13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@martini13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/martini13)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 6:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/6 "2010-04-13T06:58:35Z")
Awesome, thanks everyone! ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 12:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/7 "2010-04-13T12:22:58Z")
The thing about being friends, is that often times the woman can get a sense of you being almost brotherly to her, and she doesn’t see you in a sexual light. What you want to do is change her perception of you from “nice guy” to “good catch”. A314 is great, but tricky, it gives off a high status leader of men type of vibe. If you use this product you want to act congruent to it. Don’t misinterpret and act like a bossy jerk, just take some initiative. Be the one to suggest things and vary casually lead the interaction. Ammo is a very well rounded product that communicates sex appeal without being too sexually aggressive. Most of the feedback I’ve read around here is it has a Brad Pitt effect. Of course I’ve also read from a very respected member of the forums that Ammo+A314 is more like Sean Connery. In as much as a mature, confident, sexy sorta guy. So think “James Bond” when interacting with her…but try faking an accent though that’s just lame. Instant Shine does pretty much what it describes on the AD site. It gives you a feeling of confidence and well being and creates a pleasant aura that makes people feel good in your presence. Some might describe it as Instant Magnetic Personality. The [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) is the final nail. With the other products you’re sending a signal that says strong, confident, high status and sexy alpha male, the IH adds in a “that I really feel a deep connection to” to the mix. Just be sure to actually be talkative when you wear it, as it won’t do all the work for you. And best of luck dude. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/8 "2010-04-13T18:20:21Z")
Hello and welcome to PheroTalk. I am so happy you were able to discover this most amazing community. We consider each other like family here and are totally committed to helping each other out. There are so many great people here and now another too 🙂. I will be issuing your GC in just a short while to your email. I would love to be able to personally respond to every new user signing on, but because I want to ensure you get the GC in time I can only reply with this message at this time. I’m sure you are anxious to get started, just like the rest of us were too 🙂. Its cool! Of course I am available to answer any question you might have regarding mones selection by calling me personally on the hotline. Please select extension one and I will be able to consult you one on one. Welcome to the forum. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/9 "2010-04-13T18:49:04Z")
> [@martini13](#): > > She doesn’t know I like her, but I’m doing little things to show I care about her, which I hope will make me seem more appealing to her. Thanks for the tips! Welcome to the forum 🙂 I am sure your intentions are well meaning and a lot of guys will do exactly what you just wrote. We like the girl, not only is she adorable in our book, but she’s smart and guess what? We want to have funky-monkey sex with her and its OK to feel that. In reality its healthy and good to feel that initial infatuation towards something we haven’t yet touched. So if you’re anything like the rest of the world you totally want to buy her things to show her you care, do nice things to show her you care, be the guy she can rely on to show her you care. It’s all with a pure love-stricken heart that most guys do this. One of the most valuable lessons I ever learned about woman, from get this: a woman. Yep believe it or not a woman! This girl I absolutely loved and really wanted I did everything I could to show her I cared. One day I got up the balls to ask her why she just wanted to be friends. She told me I don’t ever really do anything nice for her! WTF! I was mad and told her I did everything nice for her to show her I cared. With her big brown eyes and that smile that touched my very soul she said you do things to show me you care, but you don’t do things because you do care. She was right, 100%. My actions were being taken as manipulative acts of a desperate man looking to find love from the one girl he thought was an angel. I don’t think they started that way, I think I had the best desire to really be a cool guy for her. But it was all done with an outcome that was predetermined by me. I was doing these nice things for myself rather than completely giving of myself freely. I tell you this because she wants a man who while is sweet and gentle, also has boundaries and limitations. Will hold the door and her chair, but is going to tell her no when need be. Be THAT guy, the guy that she is going to feel safe and comfortable around. Unpredictable, keeping her guessing, but alluring and fun. Gently grab hold of her hand and pull her towards you. For an awkward second look deep into her eyes and then push her away and with a sly smirk call her bad. There are lots of things you can do to “show her” you care and none of it costs money (and I don’t know that you are or not but this is a generalization that might help others too). Pull her in, push her out, build attraction through your actions 😉. It’s a valuable lesson I learned and it has dramatically changed my life. You really haven’t told me much about your personality and without knowing something about you its not easy to suggest stuff to you. Ammo is always good, but maybe some A314 might be better. I wanna know about you and how you are. What’s your race, are you shy, talkative, friendly, the serious one, jokester, who are you? What is your physique like? Help me and I will help you?😉 ---
**Author:** ![martini13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@martini13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/martini13)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/10 "2010-04-13T22:37:11Z")
I’m half white, half chinese. The girl is chinese if that helps. I’m usually friendly, sometimes a jokester (although I’m slowly becoming more of this), but at most times serious. I don’t really know how to describe my physique, but I work out, so I suppose I could say I’m in shape, but not extremely muscular. I have a little bit of fat, so I’m not all bones. I suppose that’s the best I can describe my physique. Again, thanks for the tips and answers guys! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/11 "2010-04-13T22:48:46Z")
> [@martini13](#): > > I’m half white, half chinese. The girl is chinese if that helps. I’m usually friendly, sometimes a jokester (although I’m slowly becoming more of this), but at most times serious. I don’t really know how to describe my physique, but I work out, so I suppose I could say I’m in shape, but not extremely muscular. I have a little bit of fat, so I’m not all bones. I suppose that’s the best I can describe my physique. Again, thanks for the tips and answers guys! That’s awesome and super-informative which is going to tremendously help me help you 🙂. A314 would be a great product but buffer it with IO and Ishine. Asian women react differently to -none, which is in Ammo and TUTH. Ammo will work for you, but again buffer it with some IO and Ishine. If you are on a limited budget stick with all to go’s and pick up IO and Ammo and then request in the order comments for some Ishine sample and they will include one for you. If you want, call me and I’ll make sure we rock your world with goodies 🙂. I asked about physique because bigger guys tend to be seen as happy and talkative and personally IO is not good for me. You’ll be fine with it. The Ammo needs to be adjusted to a small amount because you both are Asian and it tends to put Asians off a bit. Go easy with it and you’ll be OK. The A314 can really help you when the time is ripe. It will build your image as super ALPHA man with trust and respect. You will be the James Bond of your neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![martini13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@martini13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/martini13)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/12 "2010-04-13T23:01:18Z")
Awesome, thanks Steve! I’ll do that. ---
**Author:** ![martini13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@martini13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/martini13)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-guys/37696/13 "2010-04-16T22:25:47Z")
Alright, so here’s the question. How should I tell her how I feel? What is the best way to do it while guaranteeing the best results?