# Hi I am new

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**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [September 27, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853 "2012-09-27T01:51:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![yentz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/94ad74/32.png) [@yentz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yentz)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/1 "2012-09-27T01:51:52Z")

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I am new here as I would like to get information about pheremones.  
There seem to be tons of info on the web but 99% of it seems to be rubbish.  
when looking at amazon for example there are milions of products but hey - i have no clue about this topic.

my name is frank, i am 35 years old , live in germany and I am going out a lot. Unfortunately I just seem to meet girls that are interested in longterm relationships and I hope to help a bit with pheremones to get a bit more easy fun other than complicated relationship stuff on the other hand sometimes i meet a girl i could really marry straight away and have children but unfortunately in these situations i get really shy and would love a little help to break the ice. once in a conversation i wont need any pheremones anymore.

so there is lots of info on this site. i feel that most products have a scent to them which is something i would like to avoid as i like to use my regular perfume (aqua di gio att the moment) and add pheremones to it. i also read that the pheremoenes will work best when not spryed on skin but on clothes. well lots to learn i suppose.

cheers

frank

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**Author:** ![Spinach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spinach/32/348_2.png) [@Spinach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spinach)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/2 "2012-09-27T03:56:19Z")

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Hi Frank, welcome to PheroTalk!

Just a few things to clear up 🙂  
Yes, the AD products do come scented, but you will be able to spray your Acqua di Gio over the Neroli (default scent for most products). I use Acqua di Gioia, and although I know they are different scents, I spray mine a few minutes after I spray the pheromones. To me the Neroli scent is a very familiar men’s scent - I think the majority of people really like it. Try it out, and if you don’t, you can always wear your usual perfume on top. 🙂 It is not recommended that you mix pheromones with other liquids, unless you are an advanced user.

Pheromones work better on skin, NOT on clothes. On clothes they take longer to diffuse properly, and are just not as effective in general. Remember that pheromones are something that our bodies produce naturally, not something found in clothes 😃  
You can find info on application points in the men’s forum, but popular application points are the neck, wrists, inner crooks of elbows, behind knees, stomach, behind ears. Pulse points, places where your body heats up naturally are the best places. 🙂

As for the products themselves - [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) would be a great one for you. It has a very easygoing, youthful vibe, great for a little extra confidence and warmth. Ammo would be my other recommendation - it is a smooth, balanced product for sexual attraction, confidence and even respect. You will find many good reviews on this one!

There is a lot to read on the forum, but the knowledge base here is very very valuable, and will help you to find out a lot about pheromones and how they work.

Welcome, and I hope to see you around!

- Spinach

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**Author:** ![yentz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/94ad74/32.png) [@yentz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yentz)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/3 "2012-09-27T04:00:56Z")

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Hi!  
Thanks for your fast answer.  
I will have a look into it. I made the mistake once and asked someone to buy realm for me when he was on vacation in the us. to be honest i could not stand the smell of it and never used it. This was my first and so far last trip into the world of pheremones.  
I hope the ones you mentioned are less prominent.  
Aren’t there any unscented products?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/4 "2012-09-27T04:13:43Z")

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Welcome to Pherotalk. 🙂

Yes, there is a lot of utter bullshit out there about pheros and you are right to be cautious. Hopefully you will soon find the good competing products and sellers in discussion here. 🙂

At thirty five, you have the full range of pheros, doses and mixes open to you hopefully a bit of experementing will show-up what suits you best.

Fo that reason I’d suggest the “Killer Newbie Kit” which has a togo of all the consumer range at a reasonable discount - You can also use the GC to bring the cost down further. 🙂

> **[Social Success Pheromone - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/)**
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> A314 cologne is a powerful blend of 17 pheromones that enhance your confidence and gives you amazing social experiences you will never forget

If you are wanting to spend less, I would suggest the following for more consideration:

Ammo - All round sexy,social and masculine feel that can be worn in most situations. Similarly the “Summer Ammo” variant is a more laid-back/social version of the same. At 35, you may be getting into the range of the 2x or “Heavy” Ammo but it is best to find your best dose with the 1x product first.

[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) - Happy, feelgood and socially confident. AD’s most all round product that can help get a lot of attention in all the good ways. Good on its own and combines well with many other pheros, particularly Ammo.

IO - Social in a bright/bubbly way. Helps promote flowing conversation and makes it easier to talk to people and be talked to.

TUTH - A much more overt sexual, mainly for use with an established partner but also useful in raunchy environments like clubs and parties, esp when moderated by some IO/IS - don’t wear this to work or polite socials as it can make people edgy around you or piss guys off.

IG - A light and youthful smart/social feel that helps make a good impression. Smooth/suave and smart.

A314 - A much more mature status product that really delivers the goods at work but can be useful in projecting very high status and trust, along with solid LTR values. Good in clubs and sexual situations alongside a little TUTH around 30+ women who tend to be more tuned-in to its no-nonsense sex/status vibe but can scare-off younger ones who are more liable to like a softer, more fun/social signature.

As for scent, pheros do need it to diffuse effectively but most consumer products come in 6% Neroli, which is a light orange scent that settles to a fresh but very light level after 30 minutes or so - so you can combine quite effectively without stinking. A314 comes in 6% Akuto which is a light musky scent that again settles light. A314 oil also comes in a version of Akuto that is almost undetectable after half an hour or so and is the best choice for no-scent professional environments. Unscented can be got by special order but this is generally for experienced users who want to produce their own mixes - Newbies are strongly advised against it and the AD warranty will not apply to custom or unscented products.

All of these will co-reside well with Aqua di-Gio and many other good colognes. Ammo is the only one in a cologne scent and yes, I’ll say it is not my favourite, although Summer Ammo is in a different scent that is excellent.

Pheros do not work at all well on clothes - many fibers trap the pheros and don’t let them diffuse and often the clothes never get warm enough to diffuse properly anyway, so you need vastly increased and wasteful doses to get results. Pheros trapped in clothing can also cause stinky problems that are difficult to wash out. Skin, with its even blood flow is a far better surface to apply and clean, even pheros designed for clothing application (eg Alter Ego oil) will actually work better on skin at a much smaller dose. 🙂

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**Author:** ![yentz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/94ad74/32.png) [@yentz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yentz)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/5 "2012-09-27T04:17:59Z")

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so, just placed an order.  
interesting to see if it will work. if so i will order again.

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**Author:** ![yentz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/94ad74/32.png) [@yentz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yentz)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/6 "2012-09-27T04:20:30Z")

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thanks for all the advice!

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**Author:** ![yentz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/94ad74/32.png) [@yentz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yentz)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/7 "2012-09-27T04:22:35Z")

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hmm would have been great to have ordered the unscented ones. well i guess i will just have to see how they go.

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**Author:** ![Spinach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spinach/32/348_2.png) [@Spinach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spinach)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/8 "2012-09-27T04:22:54Z")

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> [@yentz](#):
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> Hi!  
> Thanks for your fast answer.  
> I will have a look into it. I made the mistake once and asked someone to buy realm for me when he was on vacation in the us. to be honest i could not stand the smell of it and never used it. This was my first and so far last trip into the world of pheremones.  
> I hope the ones you mentioned are less prominent.  
> Aren’t there any unscented products?

Technically you can buy unscented products - but they are not odorless, it just means that they have no _added_ scent. However this has to be custom ordered and is an expensive choice, not recommended unless you are an experienced, advanced user.

Hmm I’m not familiar with Realm, but I just looked up its fragrance - the dominant note is listed as ginger. This is tooootally different to [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/), I wouldn’t be worried about Neroli being too similar to Realm!

Have you read this? [How do I qualify for a $25 gift certificate?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934)  
If you are very worried about the scent, I recommend purchasing something in the smaller To Go size first with the $25, if you qualify. Personally I feel that Neroli is too masculine on me (I’m a female) but find it a very pleasant scent when worn by men. It is also the lightest of the AD scents, and should blend with most perfumes that you might use. 🙂

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/9 "2012-09-27T04:23:54Z")

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Well what did you get?

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**Author:** ![yentz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/94ad74/32.png) [@yentz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yentz)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/10 "2012-09-27T04:26:22Z")

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no i didnt read the how do i qualify for 25$.  
how do i do it? 😉  
I just placed an order for 80$ so i guess this certificate might be useful next time.  
to be quite honest i dont really expect much out of it but thought i have to try. being a medical professional i do believe that there might be effects of this.

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**Author:** ![yentz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/94ad74/32.png) [@yentz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yentz)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/11 "2012-09-27T04:30:08Z")

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I got  
AMMUNITION" (Summer 2012 Edition!) Cologne for Men - TO GO!  
AMMUNITION" Cologne for Men - TO GO!  
Instant Shine" Feel Good Pheromone - TO GO!  
[Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)" Sexual Pheromone - To Go!

It is nice that they offer small bottles as I can try different things and keep them in the office or car.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/12 "2012-09-27T04:32:38Z")

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Just keep an eye on your inbox or spam filter as the GCs can get caught.

Mickaelia issues them personally so it can take a day or so if she is busy. I think you have given enough info but she will post here to ask if there is any more needed.

Yes you will be able to use it next time and I’ll say now that A314 is a superb phero around medics - I’m in other aspects of biosciences and have a fair bit to do with medics. It has helped me greatly. 😉

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**Author:** ![yentz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/94ad74/32.png) [@yentz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yentz)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/13 "2012-09-27T04:35:47Z")

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sounds good. i am excited to try.  
somehow it still says waiting for payment on the website even after i paid with paypal straight away.  
i wrote an email. does this shop belong to this website?  
if not.. is it trustworthy?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/14 "2012-09-27T04:38:26Z")

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Paypals are still done manually since the last site upgrade - give it a few hours for them to catch-up.

ADs DHL delivery to UK/EU is far better than any other phero seller I’ve used and yes, they are very trustworthy. Customer service is taken very seriously but if you do have to contact them, do it by email rather than on the forum as it is not secure.

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**Author:** ![yentz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/94ad74/32.png) [@yentz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/yentz)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2012, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/15 "2012-09-27T04:39:52Z")

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cool, thanks

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-i-am-new/56853/16 "2012-10-01T15:36:43Z")

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Welcome Yentz,

As mobo said All paypal orders are processed manually from now on

`http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/ammo-ordered-61952.html`

If you have any questions about your order and for customer service always remember to call our hot-line or send an email to our support suite

**Your gc was issued!**
