# Hi, I'm here! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 13, 2008, 9:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-im-here/22847 "2008-11-13T09:07:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-im-here/22847/21 "2008-11-13T10:44:45Z")
> [@nathan](#): > > Ha! too funny! Overdose. Ahhhh… cuz I’m already pretty intense as it is. I think you might be right. Maybe AMMO is a good shot. I like what people are saying about it so far. Does that qualify as a “social cover up” to the A314? > > Okay, how is this? I want to be able to put her at complete ease around me, yet at the same time admire my strength and be drawn to me sexually. It would almost be nice to not have to put so much energy into approaching all the women all the time. Sort of like a “Hey, I like your ring” instead of having to go through the usual motions “Real quick, My friend is getting married and I think he’s making a big mistake cuz she’s no good for him… blah, blah, blah… snore, snore. What do you think?” openers. > > It would be nice to have the tables turned a little bit so I don’t have to keep them being distracted from the two of us, but not too much cuz I would still like to have control of where the conversation is going to go. I don’t need to hear her telling me why her dog needs a bath cuz it went through the garbage this morning. > > At the same time, I’m not interested in the other guys trying to interfere. Most of them know who i am, and they always try to feed off my efforts like “hey! Look at Nathan! He’s talking to girls, let’s go in there!” Which usually isn’t too bad cuz they just make me look better. But at the same time, it would be nice to have them follow my lead as in “Dude, back the frick off!” > > Complicated? Hmm, interesting situation, ok this is the best recommendation i could think of for your situation, try AMMO(Sexual attraction as you know already) + Instant Shine (you won’t need the boost of confidence but it will make you & the girl you are talking to feel good/comfortable) + [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)(for deeper & meaningful conversation) & a bit of A314(for respect)🙂 And no AMMO is not a social cover up as it is sexual btw. The Instant line are the social ones nathan 🙂 Well i hope i managed to help you there 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![nathan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nathan/32/1126_2.png) [@nathan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nathan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 10:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-im-here/22847/22 "2008-11-13T10:46:27Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 > > TUTH is best used when already in a situation where sex is likely to happen. It does what it says “Turns up the heat” You need a comfort level with those effected by it to get anywhere because it comes on strong. > > As Josef pointed out its like saying “nice shoes want to fuck” Use it in clubs, bars, parties but not at work or other inappropriate settings. > > I suggest even though your outgoing you look into something like Ishine or IH with your GC. Women are social creatures, we respond well to the emotions evoked but the social mones and what you have now is on the masculine side. You want to achieve some balance > > If you have questions just ask. > > **Your GC is on its way 😃** > > Tisha Hi Tisha! Sex is always likely to happen! Ha! I do most of my meeting women in bars or clubs. So does that mean it’s a good thing to wear? I don’t want to sound like a pig, but you never really get to know a woman until you get to know a woman, and I make that clear right up front and it always worked for me. Sure, the comfort has to be there, and I’m good at that too, but most women laugh when I ask them “There has to be at least one time when you were out on the club and a guy approached you and you thought 'Please let this guy be normal for 15 minutes so I can (fill in the blank)!” So I guess my question would be, since I am pretty straight forward and I get to the point, that the combo I’m thinking about would be overly strong? I tease women, I joke, we role play, and within 15 minutes she’s slapping me, testing whether or not I will adhere to her orders to buy her a drink etc. Then she’s usually kissing me, and whatever. But it’s like I have to put so much effort into it. It would be nice to just relax a little bit and have women going “Wow. I have got to meet that guy!” ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 11:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-im-here/22847/23 "2008-11-13T11:00:01Z")
Hi, Yes in clubs and sexually charged environments its great. But at work it can freak some people out. They get the sexual harassment vibe and these days you cant be to careful. Never meet the parents wearing it or go to church with it on or your getting clocked in the side of the head with a purse 😃 You sound like you create comfort well when meeting people so you should have little problems there. Just keep in mind the difference between how men and women think Men see something they like, become aroused, have sex and then feel closer to that person. Women see something they like, become aroused, look for that close comfortable connected feeling, then have sex. This is why the socials can be so powerful with a sexual mone. They can create that connection. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![nathan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nathan/32/1126_2.png) [@nathan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nathan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 11:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-im-here/22847/24 "2008-11-13T11:12:56Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hi, > > Yes in clubs and sexually charged environments its great. But at work it can freak some people out. They get the sexual harassment vibe and these days you cant be to careful. Never meet the parents wearing it or go to church with it on or your getting clocked in the side of the head with a purse 😃 > > You sound like you create comfort well when meeting people so you should have little problems there. > > Just keep in mind the difference between how men and women think > > Men see something they like, become aroused, have sex and then feel closer to that person. > > Women see something they like, become aroused, look for that close comfortable connected feeling, then have sex. > > This is why the socials can be so powerful with a sexual mone. They can create that connection. > > Tisha Okay. So you know my story. I get the comfort and connection thing. I always get that connection going with “Isn’t it weird how we just met and we’re hitting it off?” And such. You know, destiny stuff. So what would you recommend? I’m getting mixed messages about the A314. Is it something to wear, and if so, knowing my personality somewhat now, and what I’m looking to achieve, what should I get? I’m ready to order. By the way, I work from home so I wouldn’t wear it home. I’m alone a lot in my office but when I go out I don’t have a lot of time to mess around so I’m after results now. Come to think of it, that’s basically who I am. Results NOW… or as soon as possible. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 11:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-im-here/22847/25 "2008-11-13T11:22:02Z")
Given what you’ve said on here, you’ve certainly got the right attitude to carry off A314!🙂. What you may find is that beta personality males tend to get aggressive with you when wearing it, that’s why I suggested wearing a friendly social to buffer it. A314 can also make you appear unapproachable and intimidating, again, this can be countered by using a suitable social such as IS or IH which will also make you more appealing to the ladies (bear in mind they are automatically assuming you want sex the minute you talk to them in the bar and will react accordingly). Ultimately, all we can do is make a guess at what will work for you based on our own experiences. A314 works great for me at work, it’s too much for socialising, I find Ammo with IFM to be outrageously good in a club environment. At the end of the day, as Phatsounds says, it’s your call! ---
**Author:** ![nathan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nathan/32/1126_2.png) [@nathan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nathan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-im-here/22847/26 "2008-11-13T11:52:20Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > Given what you’ve said on here, you’ve certainly got the right attitude to carry off A314!🙂. What you may find is that beta personality males tend to get aggressive with you when wearing it, that’s why I suggested wearing a friendly social to buffer it. A314 can also make you appear unapproachable and intimidating, again, this can be countered by using a suitable social such as IS or IH which will also make you more appealing to the ladies (bear in mind they are automatically assuming you want sex the minute you talk to them in the bar and will react accordingly). > > Ultimately, all we can do is make a guess at what will work for you based on our own experiences. A314 works great for me at work, it’s too much for socialising, I find Ammo with IFM to be outrageously good in a club environment. At the end of the day, as Phatsounds says, it’s your call! Well, I’m not looking for a chode to get aggressive with me. Aggressive as in how? Like, threatened by me? I kinda like that thought cuz that would just put more attention on me by the ladies as in “Those betas are intimidated by him. Oh, I want him. He’s a keeper! A leader.” On the other hand, I’m already pretty intense and I don’t have much of a problem directing attention or conversations. I’m certainly centered and keep control. There are so many damn choices! I don’t know why, but I really like that A314 for some reason. But I don’t really know if I need it? Here, let me give you an example. There was a time when I was talking to a girl, and somehow (ha! yes it’s part of my game!) we got into a conversation about a simple personality test about her. So I went through the motions, and I was asking her questions and he sat there and smirked and huffed at what I was saying and doing with her – trying to make me look like a fool for doing it with her. His motivation was to make me look stupid for talking about it with her as if it was childish. Finally, when I was “evaluating” her answers to this simple test, He tried to interrupt me by cutting me off and I said “What is that shit eating grin on your face guy? You look like someone just reached up and tickled your anus. Kinda CREEPY if you ask me. Relax, take some pulls of your beer, you’ll get your turn to talk.” The girl started laughing and he sat there dumbfounded cuz he knew I had enough of his beta behavior. The girl looked at him and said “Yeah! Stop being a creep!” (My favorite word to make women go ewww!) Anyway, maybe I would come across wayyy to strong with A314? I mean, these guys can just sit back and watch. Maybe even learn. What I’m concerned with is if I go softer, then what happens and how will that effect my behavior as it currently is. This is a true test of the champions of the pheromone world cuz I’m a dose of mystery. I’m the kind of guy who just goes after what he wants. Some will, some wont, so what! I like that attitude and I’m afraid that if I lose that, I’ll lose my game. Make sense? So… it seems a sensible approach would be to keep those qualities I already have and not make them any stronger, and find a way to balance that by finding a blend of “Damn! This guy is the real deal!” ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-im-here/22847/27 "2008-11-14T21:57:14Z")
Just remember, whatever happens, it’s 90% you and 10% pheromones anyway. I personally don’t think you need A314 from what you’ve said on here, you may get more benefit from something like [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) (similar Alpha vibe but without the ‘unapproachable’ vibe and Instant Honesty ( to give the deep meaningful element). Don’t forget, the largest erogenous zone in the female body is her brain, if she gets the impression you’re a nice, powerful guy, you’re halfway there before opening your mouth. This should not detract from your game in any way, but enhance it no end. There are people on here with far more experience than me, hopefully some of them will pick up on this thread. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-im-here/22847/28 "2008-11-14T23:18:41Z")
Sorry it took so long to get back, I dont work from home and I’m on the road alot. I think you can pass on the A314 for now. Go with one of the two I suggested Ishine or IH. Probably some AMMO which seems to fit your personality if you havnt ordered that already. I know there is alot to choose from but start simple and build your arsenal slowly. Look at it like a journey. Tisha [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-im-here/22847.md?page=1)