# Hi new around here :)

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**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [May 5, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507 "2012-05-05T11:21:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![scatterp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@scatterp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scatterp)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/1 "2012-05-05T11:21:49Z")

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Hi

I am in my 20s Male from the Uk Just joined experienced pua whored my various friends a314 / ammo in the past if any ones new and reading this and has doubts … dont

[pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) are a magic wand but they wont help you dress right  
walk right or talk right but if you do your own bit yes they work

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/2 "2012-05-05T12:22:34Z")

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Hi there, scatterp, welcome to THE mone forum, PheroTalk! 🙂

Thanks for posting up. Though, from your post, it looks like you’ve used some mones before. How’d it go? What happened that YOU don’t have doubts that they work?

Now, in order to qualify for the $25 GC, the admins of this forum ask that you tell us a bit about yourself and what you expect the mones to do for you.

AMMO is some confident sexy strut when I wear it and it works great in getting others to look up to you, IME.

1Alpha

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**Author:** ![scatterp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@scatterp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scatterp)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/3 "2012-05-05T12:29:18Z")

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Hi

Thanks for the reply well they all do what they say on the box really  
specifically I have no real expectations of what the pheromones will do for me there just a BIG extra kick I normally survive with out them

Alpha gives off a kinda alpha male vibe  
and ammo is like that party vibe

hard to describe to some one who never tried it

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**Author:** ![scatterp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@scatterp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scatterp)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 12:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/4 "2012-05-05T12:34:06Z")

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What happened that YOU don’t have doubts that they work?  
well its not like belief in god you know.. its science it works.. my best experience  
I guess was with a friend also wearing pheromones and 2 devout lesbians was not a f-close and i was not aiming for one but we ended up pretty entwined they stopped being lesbians

I think alpha is far better for getting others to look up to you but often there is an underlieing issue that people “expect” mones to make up for typically they work far far better if you solve the problems that lead you to mones and then use mones as a top up

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**Author:** ![scatterp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@scatterp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scatterp)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/5 "2012-05-05T12:41:48Z")

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what i always do is put a little alpha on one wrist a little ammo on the other and simply ask a girl her opinion on which “after shave” smells better

occasionally i suggest they inhale deeply as there checking lol

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**Author:** ![scatterp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@scatterp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scatterp)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 1:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/6 "2012-05-05T13:23:42Z")

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just a quick question for viewers..#

what mones would you recommend and why (not pheromones already mentioned here by others)

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**Author:** ![Hydro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hydro/32/329_2.png) [@Hydro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hydro)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/7 "2012-05-05T16:48:53Z")

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Hello Scatterp,

Sounds like you have got quite a good handle on what some of the most popular AD products do.

> [@scatterp](#):
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> what [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) would you recommend and why

You’ve gotta tell us a bit more about what you want them to do, wher you are hanging out, who your targets are etc.  
I’m guessing that you are out trying to ‘pull birds’ (attract females for those of you not in the UK) pretty much where ever you are, in which case, Ammo which you know about has to be your best option.

[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (that I don’t think you’ve mentioned) is that all round happy vibe for you and your targets, should be in everyones pheromone kit IMO

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**Author:** ![scatterp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@scatterp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scatterp)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 12:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/8 "2012-05-06T00:56:46Z")

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well to steal a quote from 1alpha’s footer  
“Me personally, I look at pheromones like this. These give an edge on those valuable first impression moments, the rest is up to the person and his characteristics.” -Joe10

where I hang out ? Occupy Camps  
targets.. i tend to target any girl i see

I am not really out to `pull birds` just for mental stimulation as i have a girlfriend already however during our evolution more than 80% of all human societies were polygamous societies mainly for survival reasons promiscuity is wired in to a man’s brain and is a legacy of his evolutionary past this is why we find it hard to stick to one girl and it is also why if we do our brain requires polygamous stimulation (porn)

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**Author:** ![Pashakitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a87d85/32.png) [@Pashakitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pashakitty)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/9 "2012-05-06T03:37:14Z")

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> [@scatterp](#):
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> **we ended up pretty entwined they stopped being lesbians**

Okay, I’m sorry but I really feel the need to clarify a misconception here. Lesbians, that is true lesbians do not respond to [male pheromones](https://phero.com/). They have been shown in laboratory tests to respond like heterosexual males to male pheromones and to respond sexually to the pheromones of young healthy heterosexual females. If you had luck using pheromones with a self proclaimed lesbian, then more than likely she was actually bisexual (whether she knew it or not) and not a true lesbian.

Weather she called herself a lesbian or not, if she responded to male pheromones she was not in fact a lesbian. I’m not trying to be rude here or anything, or start a flame war but the misconception that you can change someone from being a lesbian or from being a gay male is false. I can say from personal experience, being bisexual, heterosexual, or homosexual is not a choice you can make and simply flip a switch in your mind, it doesn’t work that way. Pheromones or no. Don’t believe me? Try changing your own sexuality.

Many lives have been destroyed over the years because people tried to lie to themselves and others and just couldn’t take it. I was born bisexual, it’s not a choice for me, no matter if I’m with a male or a female partner I still have desires and interest in the other and I always will. Even if I were to live the rest of my life with one partner, (weather male or female) that would not mean that I was suddenly a lesbian or a heterosexual female. I would still be bisexual, but my love for my partner would simply preclude me from acting on my desires.

Much as a heterosexual male who falls in love and gets married, still finds other women attractive and may even have fantasies about being with another woman, he simply doesn’t act on those desires or fantasies, (in a closed, non poly relationship) or he becomes a cheater and eventually ruins his marriage.

Sorry, I didn’t mean for this to become a personal soap box. I just feel very strongly about this issue, and if I don’t say anything it’s like giving my approval about false information.

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**Author:** ![scatterp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@scatterp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scatterp)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 5:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/10 "2012-05-06T05:03:15Z")

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quite possibly she was as you suggest bisexual 9 out of 10 girls at some point have same sex fantasy’s but the same can not be said about guys so i think its apples and oranges a bit also not sure i would agree with your comment about there not being a switch in your mind thats switch-able any hypnotist can turn some one in to a chicken just the same sexuality can be effected via hypnotic suggestion

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**Author:** ![Pashakitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a87d85/32.png) [@Pashakitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pashakitty)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/11 "2012-05-06T05:21:15Z")

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> [@scatterp](#):
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> quite possibly she was as you suggest bisexual 9 out of 10 girls at some point have same sex fantasy’s but the same can not be said about guys so i think its apples and oranges a bit also not sure i would agree with your comment about there not being a switch in your mind thats switch-able any hypnotist can turn some one in to a chicken just the same sexuality can be effected via hypnotic suggestion

I’m going to have to say that we should agree to disagree on this matter. I have very strong feelings and opinions on this topic having been (and still am) a member of the non heterosexual population for 43 years. I do not wish to get into a debate on this subject and become angry because I misinterpret something that you say. So I’m just going to let you know my take on it and if you still disagree then I will simply drop it.

My thoughts and views are backed up by scientific research and personal experience not hearsay or opinion. As for hypnotism, no it actually does not work that way. It has been proven that you can not make anyone do something that they were not already willing to do before hand.

Yes, it can lower someone’s inhibitions for a **short** time allowing them to act the fool, but if they were intrinsically against the very idea, the best hypnotist in the world could not make them do it.

Hypnotic suggestion, is just that, suggestion. If it is not reinforced regularly it wears off, that’s why when doctors use it to for weight loss or to help people quite smoking they have to keep going back for repeat sessions until the new behavior becomes habit and even then, if they did not truly wish to quit or cut back they would eventually go back to the bad habit.

Please do your research before buying into the hype. You can not cure homosexuality with hypnosis or any other method. Yes, the homosexual person may do their best to live as a strait person but the stress of it usually winds up destroying their lives and the lives of those who love them. If they are not honest and up front about who they are, many wind up sneaking around in private and continuing their original lifestyle till they are either caught, or till they completely self destruct.

I have had far too many friends try to be what their family’s or society wanted them to be. All of them have gone this route till they either confessed that they could not live the lie or till they self destructed, some fatally.

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**Author:** ![scatterp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@scatterp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scatterp)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 5:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/12 "2012-05-06T05:47:54Z")

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I don’t agree that homosexuality is something to be “cured” its not an illness. I dont buy in to hypnotism “hype” I do actually practice hypnotism and NLP to clarify the situation above involved a lot of both not just pheromones.

it is a common myth that some one can not be hypnotised in to doing something they don’t want to  
its caused because that’s one of the first thing you tell someone when you hypnotise them it puts them at ease and they start to relax

please see here for documentary evidence  
[Declassified CIA Documents Reveal the truth about Hypnosis & Mind Control.](http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1319257/pg1)  
[http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC\_0000140394/DOC\_0000140394.pdf](http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_0000140394/DOC_0000140394.pdf)

might also want to review CIA document: 140393  
anyway don’t want to argue just stating my point of view  
if your interested in learning more about hypnosis there’s a large group on skype I could invite you over to

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**Author:** ![Pashakitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a87d85/32.png) [@Pashakitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pashakitty)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/13 "2012-05-06T05:53:13Z")

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> [@scatterp](#):
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> I don’t agree that homosexuality is something to be “cured” its not an illness. I dont buy in to hypnotism “hype” I do actually practice hypnotism and NLP to clarify the situation above involved a lot of both not just pheromones.
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> it is a common myth that some one can not be hypnotised in to doing something they don’t want to  
> its caused because that’s one of the first thing you tell someone when you hypnotise them it puts them at ease and they start to relax
> 
> please see here for documentary evidence  
> [Declassified CIA Documents Reveal the truth about Hypnosis & Mind Control.](http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1319257/pg1)  
> [http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC\_0000140394/DOC\_0000140394.pdf](http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_0000140394/DOC_0000140394.pdf)
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> might also want to review CIA document: 140393  
> anyway don’t want to argue just stating my point of view  
> if your interested in learning more about hypnosis there’s a large group on skype I could invite you over to

Thanks for the link, I will definitely check it out when I have more brain power. Also thanks for the skype invite but my computer and skype don’t like each other and the few times I’ve tried it, it made my poor old PC crash like a rock dropped from an airplane. NLP? Nurse Licensed Practitioner, or does that mean something else?

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 6:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/14 "2012-05-06T06:51:33Z")

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Dropped from an airplane…lol. 😃

NLP: Neuro Linguistic Programming.

> [@Pashakitty](#):
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> Thanks for the link, I will definitely check it out when I have more brain power. Also thanks for the skype invite but my computer and skype don’t like each other and the few times I’ve tried it, it made my poor old PC crash like a rock dropped from an airplane. NLP? Nurse Licensed Practitioner, or does that mean something else?

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**Author:** ![Pashakitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a87d85/32.png) [@Pashakitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pashakitty)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 6:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/15 "2012-05-06T06:54:33Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
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> Dropped from an airplane…lol. 😃
> 
> NLP: Neuro Linguistic Programming.

Hm… I’m going to have to Google that, not sure what it means. 😕

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**Author:** ![scatterp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@scatterp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scatterp)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 12:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/16 "2012-05-06T12:47:37Z")

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> [@Pashakitty](#):
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> Hm… I’m going to have to Google that, not sure what it means. 😕

its a form of hypnosis where you dont actually put the subject to sleep  
it can be quite covert

I also practice Kokology. I would say my NLP/Hypnosis is more Kokology with a hint of both thrown in

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**Author:** ![scatterp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@scatterp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scatterp)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/17 "2012-05-06T14:05:40Z")

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hit me up if you want a demonstration .. with out you doing anything against your will of course.

could do it on the chat some time just like a personality game or some such

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**Author:** ![Getlaid420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a5b964/32.png) [@Getlaid420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Getlaid420)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/18 "2012-05-06T22:10:47Z")

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> [@scatterp](#):
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> Hi
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> I am in my 20s Male from the Uk Just joined experienced pua whored my various friends a314 / ammo in the past if any ones new and reading this and has doubts … dont
> 
> pheromones are a magic wand but they wont help you dress right  
> walk right or talk right but if you do your own bit yes they work

Hello i am also new around here, im such a newb that i do not know how to make my own post so im doing this, i am 19 and I have only experimented with the ammo twice strength and it gave me mixed results. I look forward to the gift certificate, I am a male and I am not shy but have difficulty keeping a conversation going with women 😕, and escalating that into something more. I have noticed that the ammo does give me more confidence when i use it though. I look forward to reading other posts and logging in a scary amount of hours here, but also getting tips on the proper areas to put my mones so i can as the name describes get in the sack 😉.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/19 "2012-05-06T22:28:04Z")

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Hey there, laid, give the link below a try to get started on your own thread! 🙂

You could copy and paste your post above there and get it started.

1Alpha

`http://www.pheromonetalk.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=12`

> [@Getlaid420](#):
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> Hello i am also new around here, im such a newb that i do not know how to make my own post so im doing this, i am 19 and I have only experimented with the ammo twice strength and it gave me mixed results. I look forward to the gift certificate, I am a male and I am not shy but have difficulty keeping a conversation going with women 😕, and escalating that into something more. I have noticed that the ammo does give me more confidence when i use it though. I look forward to reading other posts and logging in a scary amount of hours here, but also getting tips on the proper areas to put my mones so i can as the name describes get in the sack 😉.

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**Author:** ![Pashakitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a87d85/32.png) [@Pashakitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pashakitty)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 8:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-new-around-here/55507/20 "2012-05-08T08:06:39Z")

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> [@scatterp](#):
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> hit me up if you want a demonstration .. with out you doing anything against your will of course.
> 
> could do it on the chat some time just like a personality game or some such

LOL, I will have to think about that. Think I want to research the subject a bit before I decide if I wish to experiment.

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