# Hi, Newbie here!

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**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [November 10, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-newbie-here/43198 "2010-11-10T00:26:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![brenny2quet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@brenny2quet](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/brenny2quet)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-newbie-here/43198/1 "2010-11-10T00:26:55Z")

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I’m very excited to have found this forum. First off, I’m Bri,(female) 22 years old, from wisconsin. I have been doing a little research about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) for a few weeks now, but I’ve never purchased them. I am interested and anxious to start trying them out. My goal is to become closer with a certain male friend that i have and have known for a few years and get him to open up to me more. I believe that there is something there between us, but I don’t want to be the one to make the first move.

For him, he’s a bit older, mid/late 30s, single, powerful,respectful, but kind of hard to [read.Me](http://read.Me), I can be quite shy, quiet, and sweet,but I’m definitely lacking in my social skills. I do have people coming up and saying hi to me quite often,and i think they want to start convo, but after answering a question or 2, there’s that akward silence because i’m not sure what to say next to keep things going. 😕

I’m hoping to find something to help with socialization, openess,friendliness,etc, . But also something that will give him STRONG sexual vibes for me(if that makes any sense) Not sure if there is one product, or if a couple that can be mixed for the desired effects.

I only see him a couple times a year or every other year, we talk on the phone more. So the next time i get to see him i want things to go my way, and i want some action. :pI’m aware that there’s no magic potion out there that will make men fall head over heels with me, i have to do some of the work too.I’m Just looking for a good push.

Any tips or helpful advice for a beginner who wants bold effects would be greatly appreciated.

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**Author:** ![vvtv57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vvtv57](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vvtv57)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-newbie-here/43198/2 "2010-11-10T00:42:32Z")

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Hi Bri welcome to the forum!

Theres a whole bunch on information floating around here so search and you shall find. If you cant find you can always make a thread!

Well come a closer relationship, I would suggest instant honesty. Instant honesty is for closer and deeper connections. Instant openness might also be what your looking for. Both of these are unisex products.

For attraction, I would suggest [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/).

Hope pheromones work the way you plan it to! Dont forget to share your experiences!

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-newbie-here/43198/3 "2010-11-10T01:04:09Z")

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Hey, welcome!

Yes, [Instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) A or B would be great! A to increase sexy, alpha vibe and B to increase soft feminine vibe.  
Also, Instant shine is very good for giving youthful glow!  
Instant honesty would connect you two together.  
Read the women’s section and ask more questions tehre!

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**Author:** ![brenny2quet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@brenny2quet](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/brenny2quet)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-newbie-here/43198/4 "2010-11-10T03:44:12Z")

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thanks you guys, really appreciate it. Going to get [instant sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/), and instant honesty fill you in on the results as soon as I try to out!🙂

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-newbie-here/43198/5 "2010-11-10T14:20:38Z")

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> [@brenny2quet](#):
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> after answering a question or 2, there’s that akward silence because i’m not sure what to say next to keep things going. 😕
> 
> I only see him a couple times a year or every other year, we talk on the phone more. So the next time i get to see him i want things to go my way, and i want some action.

Hi Bri,

Sounds like you are all set for mones. You have selected to great products. I do have a few things to add, because I want to make sure you get the best result possible.

First, you probably need to address the awkward silence issue. Where is that coming from? You see there are some IOI’s, indicators of interest, that guys in particular look for. You may need to make sure you are doing those things so that guys know that they should continue talking to you.

Also, this friend of yours that you talk to on the phone but only see once a year, is this a work relationship?

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-newbie-here/43198/6 "2010-11-10T18:24:40Z")

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Hi there Bri and welcome to the forum. I think you’re going to really like it here 🙂

One thing about your situation that really strikes a chord with me and I want to EMPHASIZE for any guys reading this is how you are waiting for him to make the first move. A girl can really like a guy, but as it is in our societal conditioning if the guy doesn’t make that move the girl is willing to forgo the entire relationship because the man didn’t do what was expected. It’s really that simple guys. Here’s another lady saying it and yet I read everyday how guys on here are looking to mones to have them do all the work. Some guys actually think by wearing mones the girls will initiate the conversation. Sorry guys, from the mouth of another babe, NOT happening.

You see Bri I know the situation your in because I am that guy, well I used to be anyway. Growing up I would have the most beautiful woman surrounding me. I was super lucky that way always. I am amazingly charismatic and yet I could talk with anyone, especially the ladies. Where I fell short is that a woman could practically offer herself up to me on a bed of roses completely naked and I’d be to blind to see it. We actually have a term for it here: MPB - Male Pattern Blindness (Scroll over the word for the glossary). I doubly feel for the guys who are shy too.

I believe that IO would really work well for you so that you are able to talk a little bit more. One thing I suggest is to discover what your friend is interested in. Even if there is a moment of silence, think of that as a good sign. Most people take silence as meaning nothing in common. With you and him already establishing a friendship, I would suffice it to say that your silence is a testament to your amazing friendship. It just means you guys could sit there completely silent and be OK. 😃 That’s AWESOME! Lets say he brings something up and you ask questions about, keep asking more questions.

I know you’re like but what questions? Well that’s the thing and I’m going to teach you some NLP (Neuro-Linguistic-Programming) which is a form of hypnosis. No silly you’re not going to make him quack like a duck, unless that’s your thing 😉. What you do is ask him about something he brings up (for example lets say he likes Space Exploration). You say to him really, so what makes Space Exploration so _fascinating_ for you? You’re getting him to talk about his passion and he will. Every once in a while shake your head and lean in a little as if you’re on his every word. Listen intently to the words he says. He will use words that are revealing to you and in some circles they are called TRANCE words.

OMG space exploration is just so _amazing_ especially when they _discover_ a new world. Just _imagine_ one day we could actually live on an entire other planet. The _possibilities_ are just endless and we could _travel_ anywhere. It would be so cool if I could go to _Florida_ to watch a Shuttle launch.

I italicized and changed the color of some of the keywords he might use. Now you have EVERYTHING you need to have to have an amazing conversation.

WOW that really is so _amazing_ about you. It’s really why I love being with you and sharing our experiences. I would so love to be with you and _travel_ to _Florida_ and just discovering everything about the possibilities there. I _imagine_ we’d have so much fun together.

What I did was used the same words he did in a conversation back with him. It might seem weird, but baby it works wonders 😛. It’s like a deep connection and by doing this you will never run out of things to say. Also notice in green I used words and phrases that have the two of you together. You’re essentially using words to give him thoughts of you and him together.

I’m telling you this because you mentioned you had trouble with social skills. Regardless of what or how you chose to go about it there is enough knowledge to help you overcome this.

Now onto the mones. I’ve already said IO so I would also add some ISexi as my fellow forum friends have also suggested. The difference between A and B is A is the Sexy temptress who is in full control of the situation. She is the ALPHA leader of the pack of her friends. B is the girl next door type, sexy sweet and girly girl. You should match it to your personality and in your situation I’d say you are a B type of girl.

With that said I’ll be sending your GC to your email sometime later today. Welcome t the forum and if you would please select the best answer to let others in the forum know what to strive for. Whatever happens I wish you the very best of luck Bri. Keep at it gurl 😃

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**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-newbie-here/43198/7 "2010-11-10T20:55:53Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> Hi there Bri and welcome to the forum. I think you’re going to really like it here 🙂
> 
> One thing about your situation that really strikes a chord with me and I want to EMPHASIZE for any guys reading this is how you are waiting for him to make the first move. A girl can really like a guy, but as it is in our societal conditioning if the guy doesn’t make that move the girl is willing to forgo the entire relationship because the man didn’t do what was expected. It’s really that simple guys. Here’s another lady saying it and yet I read everyday how guys on here are looking to mones to have them do all the work. Some guys actually think by wearing mones the girls will initiate the conversation. Sorry guys, from the mouth of another babe, NOT happening.
> 
> You see Bri I know the situation your in because I am that guy, well I used to be anyway. Growing up I would have the most beautiful woman surrounding me. I was super lucky that way always. I am amazingly charismatic and yet I could talk with anyone, especially the ladies. Where I fell short is that a woman could practically offer herself up to me on a bed of roses completely naked and I’d be to blind to see it. We actually have a term for it here: MPB - Male Pattern Blindness (Scroll over the word for the glossary). I doubly feel for the guys who are shy too.
> 
> I believe that IO would really work well for you so that you are able to talk a little bit more. One thing I suggest is to discover what your friend is interested in. Even if there is a moment of silence, think of that as a good sign. Most people take silence as meaning nothing in common. With you and him already establishing a friendship, I would suffice it to say that your silence is a testament to your amazing friendship. It just means you guys could sit there completely silent and be OK. 😃 That’s AWESOME! Lets say he brings something up and you ask questions about, keep asking more questions.
> 
> I know you’re like but what questions? Well that’s the thing and I’m going to teach you some NLP (Neuro-Linguistic-Programming) which is a form of hypnosis. No silly you’re not going to make him quack like a duck, unless that’s your thing 😉. What you do is ask him about something he brings up (for example lets say he likes Space Exploration). You say to him really, so what makes Space Exploration so _fascinating_ for you? You’re getting him to talk about his passion and he will. Every once in a while shake your head and lean in a little as if you’re on his every word. Listen intently to the words he says. He will use words that are revealing to you and in some circles they are called TRANCE words.
> 
> OMG space exploration is just so _amazing_ especially when they _discover_ a new world. Just _imagine_ one day we could actually live on an entire other planet. The _possibilities_ are just endless and we could _travel_ anywhere. It would be so cool if I could go to _Florida_ to watch a Shuttle launch.
> 
> I italicized and changed the color of some of the keywords he might use. Now you have EVERYTHING you need to have to have an amazing conversation.
> 
> WOW that really is so _amazing_ about you. It’s really why I love being with you and sharing our experiences. I would so love to be with you and _travel_ to _Florida_ and just discovering everything about the possibilities there. I _imagine_ we’d have so much fun together.
> 
> What I did was used the same words he did in a conversation back with him. It might seem weird, but baby it works wonders 😛. It’s like a deep connection and by doing this you will never run out of things to say. Also notice in green I used words and phrases that have the two of you together. You’re essentially using words to give him thoughts of you and him together.

Great info as usual Steve!

Bri, it’s just like Steve said, when you use the same words that another person uses they feel closer to you. People often look for similarities to discover if they can relate to another person. By using their own words you build comfort and rapport.

People are also sensory dominate and this shows up in the way they speak. For instance I am visually dominate, so I use words and phrases like “seek”, “imagine”, "look, “show up”, and “see what I mean?” Some people are auditory dominate so they say things like “I hear you”, “tell me”, and “listen”. And then there are kinesthetic people who use words like “I feel”, “comfortable”, “touch”, and “hot” or “cold”.

Understanding what words people use helps you create bonds quickly.
