# Hi! Pheromones for A Hopeful Romantic to Get Past The Friendzone Barrier. 41/M **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [February 9, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-for-a-hopeful-romantic-to-get-past-the-friendzone-barrier-41-m/63823 "2015-02-09T19:45:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gbearduk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed8c4c/32.png) [@gbearduk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gbearduk)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-for-a-hopeful-romantic-to-get-past-the-friendzone-barrier-41-m/63823/1 "2015-02-09T19:45:58Z")
Hey, Recently separated, looking to meet women again after 20+ years of being married and not worrying about that sort of thing. At all. Tried some heavily marketed pheremones reecently (Amend) and not particularly impressed, but maybe a few little “hits” here and there - just enough to pique my interest - so I thought I’d try the “real thing” - v. interested to see how it goes. Thought I’d try 314 first.. Cheers ---
**Author:** ![Dream\_Brother](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dream_brother/32/1559_2.png) [@Dream\_Brother](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dream_Brother)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-for-a-hopeful-romantic-to-get-past-the-friendzone-barrier-41-m/63823/2 "2015-02-09T20:27:44Z")
Hey, welcome to the site 🙂 Very sorry to hear about your separation. You’re still young (reasonably 😉) so there is a lot to look forward to with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), and I think you have made a good initial choice! Could you tell us a little about your personality? Best of luck! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gbearduk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed8c4c/32.png) [@gbearduk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gbearduk)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-for-a-hopeful-romantic-to-get-past-the-friendzone-barrier-41-m/63823/3 "2015-02-09T20:49:36Z")
Thanks for da luck 🙂 I’m not one to cold approach (I suppose I’ll have to get better at this lark,) but I’m fine chatting with people I’ve met. Perhaps a little archetypally English in that regard.. I have a decent job (techie IT managery sort of thing,) I manage a small team, I don’t take any sh\*t at work & I know how to get people to do what they need to do without having to throw a hissy fit at them. Pretty well spoken and well read, know my music, current affairs and so forth. Lots of hobbies. I’m rather enjoying living alone for the first time - basically ever - actually, reading more, listening to whatever music I fancy. Eating well. Taking time to cook properly. All early days. It was me that instigated the separation btw: life’s too short to spend all of it with a girl who’s “just about good enough” There is this one girl (of course, isn’t there always?) - totally friendzoned and quite rightly so - also recently separated, colleague - you Atlantically-challenged types would say coworker 😉 Spend a fair bit of time with her out of hours and I sense attraction, perhaps from the other 'mones, perhaps from my natural cheeky challenging charm - doubtless a combination of the two in reality - but I always wimp out at “pulling the trigger” because a backfire would be so thoroughly embarrassing at work. So tempted the other night when she’s flicking her hair at me and tapping my knee to emphasise every point she’s making in our typically fun but heated discussion. But I bottled it. I thought maybe A314 would help me feel a bit more socially dominant out of hours in the same way that I’m quite capable of at work. But now I’ve been thinking maybe I should buy the intro pack, spray some bloody [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) on my tightest jeans and just “take the bloody shot”! OK that was TMI, but you asked, and I’d rather like my voucher pwetty pwease 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dream\_Brother](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dream_brother/32/1559_2.png) [@Dream\_Brother](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dream_Brother)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-for-a-hopeful-romantic-to-get-past-the-friendzone-barrier-41-m/63823/4 "2015-02-09T21:02:19Z")
Perfect body language on her part to show physical attraction, there’s certainly something there to work on! 😉 It’s great to hear how well you are doing, and how composed you are, considering your recent break up! If this girl were to be interested in you, physically and emotionally, would you want something serious, or just a fling? The pheromones you choose when I her company can make a big difference. IG, on its own, may make her see you as a protecting, fun, social yet sexual man. It’s kinda’ a less hard hitting, and less masculine, version of A314, and is more versatile in the sense that you can use it in a broader range of places, with a broader range of people. You could take a plan of action, like; - Suggest you go to see a movie (y’know Fifty Shades of Grey is on, right? 😉) - Wear IG. So, when she is close to you, the masculine, guy-on-his-feet, fun, warm, aura will be sure to have its effect on her - Let any intimicy takes it’s part; hand holding, head leaning on shoulder etc. - after the movie, suggest a drink at a bar. Slip some TUTH on. - Keep your fingers crossed that the IG \> TUTH transition works its charm and leads to something out of the friend zone, as this _should_ help her to see you more than a friend! That’s just an example plan of action. You could try a standalone product like Ammo, which is great at general attraction, and isn’t steered too specifically in any manner. Its fun/social/sexual/alpha all blended perfectly. Also, be sure not to set your eyes _just_ on her. Before you know it, you’ll be acting out of character, and you’ll be so deep in the friend zone you’ll be kicking yourself. You know you want be deep somewhere else, if you know what I mean 😉 😉 .. so don’t become a beta-friend, maintain an outward alpha vibe! Oh, and the IG gives me a socially dominant vibe, whilst maintaining an upbeat, outgoing personality. A lot more eye contact, improved body language, more dominance over suggesting plans - instead of ‘where would you like to go next?’ I’m more ‘let’s go…’, and I’m sure women like a man who takes the lead. I would 110% recommend the Ultimate Pheromone Introduction Pack! It includes all the best sellers, and is perfect for mixing, and pretty much every environment/occasion! Dee A, where you at?! This guy wants his GC! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![gbearduk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed8c4c/32.png) [@gbearduk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gbearduk)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-for-a-hopeful-romantic-to-get-past-the-friendzone-barrier-41-m/63823/5 "2015-02-09T22:28:28Z")
Thanks. Yea I’m a hopeful romantic. ONSs never interested me, even as a kid with rampant hormones. It fascinates me how I keep reading that the 'mones bring out different parts of a wearer’s personality. Surely that’s so much huger than any “hit” they might have on others?.. ---
**Author:** ![Dream\_Brother](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dream_brother/32/1559_2.png) [@Dream\_Brother](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dream_Brother)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-for-a-hopeful-romantic-to-get-past-the-friendzone-barrier-41-m/63823/6 "2015-02-09T22:38:37Z")
Yeah, I agree. The ability they have to help people bring out their true inner personalities without being afraid of rejection or acceptance is probably the best thing, because once this change in self-perception has occurred, you can learn to use your newfound social skills _without_ the need to use pheromones to replicate the effects. For me, they’re a temporary stepping stone in developing my character in different aspects, then I can train myself up by going out and testing my skills without using any products. I’m a hopeless romantic myself, and being a young guy (19) I hate it. My hormones are probably still elevated, and it kills me to think that now is the chance to go out and have fun - but all I want is companionship. I’m using pheromones, in part, to try and become more of a womaniser, if you will. Not in a bad sense, but I’m too much of a gentleman or perhaps a nice guy, and I feel women deserve more than to be used for a ONS. I think that these thoughts will only result in me being used and taken for granted, especially when most females my age want to have fun, not settle down.. Anyway, I’m going on about myself too much! I’d definitely have a look at [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), Ammo, IG and A314. Do a search on the forum for ‘Instant Shine - IT WORKS’. Its my first ever report on pheromones, and I think it will shed some light on the self-effects area that you are interested in! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gbearduk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed8c4c/32.png) [@gbearduk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gbearduk)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-for-a-hopeful-romantic-to-get-past-the-friendzone-barrier-41-m/63823/7 "2015-02-10T08:40:28Z")
Thanks for the tips, the starter pack is obviously the way to go. For what its worth mate, if I was 19 again I’d certainly look to “play the field” more - not in a tacky way - obviously you only want to get together with girls for whom you feel attraction beyond the obvious physical as well as respect - but as all the dating coaches will say, you can’t find “the one” if you don’t make a few errors along the way first. I settled down too young with the first half decent girl who showed interest and whilst I have no regrets, (and 2 lovely kids) you and I are actually sort of in the same point in our dating lives, except I have a 22 year deficit and less testosterone 🙂 I know you get $5 for the greet, but nonetheless I appreciate the warm friendly welcome; all the best to you. ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-for-a-hopeful-romantic-to-get-past-the-friendzone-barrier-41-m/63823/8 "2015-02-11T00:38:38Z")
Hello and welcome to PheromoneTalk GB! You and DB carried a very beautiful convo here. Everything is in order except the order. 😃 And so… your $25 Intro GC is now in your email! 🙂 You can get it buy checking your inbox and spam folders after reading this. 🙂 I think these threads might help you: [NEWBIES READ HERE: The Ultimate Pheromone Introduction Pack](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newbies-read-here-the-ultimate-pheromone-introduction-pack/54322), [Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction (Updated 2014)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction-updated-2014/190029), [Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction (Updated 2014)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction-updated-2014/190029), [What works: BUSINESS APPLICATIONS (sales, meetings, etc)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-works-business-applications-sales-meetings-etc/220), and [Application points 101: a guide to where on the body to apply pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101/53343) Have a good read and good day! 🙂 ==================== _ **Disclosure:** I’ve edited your thread title from **“Hi, 41/M new to all this”** to **“Hi! Pheromones for A Hopeful Romantic to Get Past The Friendzone Barrier. 41/M”** for topic clarity and forum readability. It’ll also generate more “reads” to your thread. If you want to opt-out simply let me know. Thank you!_ ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2015, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-for-a-hopeful-romantic-to-get-past-the-friendzone-barrier-41-m/63823/9 "2015-02-28T01:13:11Z")
What’s up in the UK now beard? I see you’ve already placed an order and used your GC. Hope you received it fine and now already kicking ass on helping you up getting past that dreaded friendzon. 🙂 You have MX297 and TUTH in there? Those should do it. 🙂 Don’t forget to share your test results my friend. You can create your own journal [here](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-journals/22) to keep notes of your dosages and usages, plus its different effects, including those you consider a “failure”. Journal helps a lot. Its your own phero time machine. For further questions, you can also create your own help-seeking thread [here](https://pheromonetalk.com/c/men-s-pheromone-advice-tricks-and-tips/45). Expert [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) users usually browse this area. 🙂 Also, you should drop some feedback about your MX\_\_ usage. We would love to hear how those precious molecules worked out for you. 🙂 You must send your feedback at [feedback@androtics.com](mailto:feedback@androtics.com) (Always enter MX# in Subject Line). **You might just qualify for a Reporting User status by doing so. 🙂** Also, please drop a feedback here or via PM about how the shipping goes for you. Thanks! Chat soon!