# Hi! Pheromones to Attract Young Subs in a bondage jam? Dominant M/30 **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 30, 2017, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930 "2017-01-30T09:15:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Kyle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@Jonathan\_Kyle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonathan_Kyle)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/1 "2017-01-30T09:15:43Z")
My physical appearance is a bit nerdy and I’m underweight. I like going to bondage events where I meet new people and might tie up a girl that I didn’t know before. What [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) would you recommend for that context? ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 11:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/2 "2017-01-30T11:44:24Z")
Hi! I’m not sure why do you still need the pheromones. I assume the people participting in that kind of events are all set to participate. Does it mean they still look for an attraction? Anyways, I think the safest bet would be the IG or A314. Welcome to PheromoneTalk! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/3 "2017-01-30T12:46:11Z")
I’ve gone to a fetish club once before, and as a single man to boot. (It was an open house night in a normally private venue, and the equipment could be viewed but not used.) I wore A314 and TUTH, 2 sprays each. The night ended up being a failure as a whole. Men were nice to me, but women weren’t giving me the reactions I expected. By that, I mean I was getting only simple flirting here or there, rather than outright sexual reactions. However, after I left the club, and waited for my Uber, I ran into two women from the club. Now, _they_ flirted with me very heavily. I ended up kissing them on the lips, although they were drunk. It was the one saving grace of the night. ---
**Author:** ![Bkems](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@Bkems](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bkems)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/4 "2017-01-31T00:34:39Z")
What is your role typically or what would you ideally like it to be? Or what type would you like to attract? I’m into kink so a specific type won’t be lost on me. Also please not I’m not experienced yet with pheros im just interested in this topic and would love to see if I could help in any way ---
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/5 "2017-01-31T01:53:55Z")
I don’t have a fetish role or look to get into one, although I’m familiar with them. (That’s top/dom, bottom/sub, and switch.) I only went to that fetish club to do something edgy and exciting, a mental contrast to my friends’ more sedate LTR lives. Well, the fetish I claimed to have was a kissing fetish. And I got kissed that night, albeit after leaving the club, so it must have been believable enough. ---
**Author:** ![chrisepz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@chrisepz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chrisepz)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2017, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/6 "2017-01-31T06:07:10Z")
I’d go for A314 to give your personality a dominant edge. The oil takes about 15-20 minutes for people to get effected, 30-45 minutes for the full effect. I recommend using the spray so they get the impression that you are very dominant in less than 5 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Kyle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@Jonathan\_Kyle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonathan_Kyle)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2017, 11:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/7 "2017-02-01T11:11:29Z")
The people at the event are there to participate but I want the girls to rather want to interact with me than with other people. I want that the girl enjoys the interaction and wants to tied up by me again in the future. I’m a dom and looking for a submissive girl. Preferably girls under 30. It seems the website lists two status pheromones. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) on the one side and A314 on the other. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 2:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/8 "2017-02-02T02:04:29Z")
A314 is definitely the strong alpha type signature. I like to pair it with IH. IG is more of a cool, suave kinda vibe. Very under=rated in my book but probably not the one you are looking for in this situation. ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 10:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/9 "2017-02-02T10:47:18Z")
Welcome to PheromoneTalk, JK! 🙂 Your intro GC is now in your email. 🙂 I initially recommended the two because of the limited info you initially provided us. After reading your additional info, it looks like A314 is your main status mones here. Anyway, you might wanna read up about TAC and p75 too. Happy Pheroing! 🙂 ================ _ **Disclosure:** I’ve edited your thread title from **“What pheromones to wear for a bondage jam?”** to **“Hi! Pheromones to Attract Young Subs in a bondage jam? Dominant M/30”** for topic clarity and forum readability. It’ll also generate more “reads” to your thread. If you want to opt-out simply let me know. Thank you!_ ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Kyle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@Jonathan\_Kyle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonathan_Kyle)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2017, 11:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/10 "2017-02-02T11:15:16Z")
bosshank what do you think about using TAC or [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) in this context? Is there a reason why you rather you instant shine? ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/11 "2017-02-03T11:35:32Z")
Hi Jonathan and welcome! Very interesting avenue for pheromones. I would take a look at the **Men’s Ultimate Kit** as you would get them all to try including the A314 in spray form! I am thinking for you to start with your choice of environment the kit would be best especially since you get everything in spray form. This is important so you can change your signature right away for this type of environment. Other wise I would look more into the status/sexual type of pheromones for your drivers and the ones that come to mind are A314 and IG mainly and TUTH is good to have around as well. With the A314 I would also even look at the Young Edition to and there is not much on it yet, but it would be more inline with your age and is worth looking at. The others like IShine, IH, and IO are more social and what you will want to do is to steer your main pheromones with them. We normally don’t suggest MXS or Putatives to newer members because they are more experimental. But for researching I totally agree with the P75. The TAC is more disinhibiting and you can go heavier on a sexual mix with TAC. I would also look at P77 as it is very grounding and can have a very dark side, but you have to act on it. Good luck and if you have any more questions please ask! ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Kyle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@Jonathan\_Kyle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonathan_Kyle)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/12 "2017-03-03T17:38:00Z")
Which dose of TAC would you recommend here? ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/13 "2017-03-03T19:44:54Z")
I use 10MCG a spray of TAC and with TUTH my sweet spot is 20MCG total. If I use in a more serious or commanding environment I will scale the TAC back to 15MCG total in a mix. I would look right around 5-10MCG a spray. If you get it in the Stealth I would probably go with the lower 5MCG just because I think it would be easier to find your sweet spot and you will not have to worry about to much scent as you can add more with no worries about this. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Kyle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce7236/32.png) [@Jonathan\_Kyle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonathan_Kyle)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/14 "2017-03-03T20:05:32Z")
I read that pheronomes are less effective when I get them in stealth. Would you recommend here that I get it in stealth? ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/15 "2017-03-03T21:40:51Z")
So far with the ones I got in stealth they are just as effective. Now When I use certain enhancers or certain Essential Oils the stealth actually works even better with the EO’s and the scent. I apply them close together, but never on the same app spot. The stealth technology is fairly new and if you are worried about it I would get the standard 6% Neroli as you won’t go wrong. Now the Putatives and MXS are not covered under the same warranty as the Instant Line just so you know as they are experimental still. I actually love the new stealth for me as what I do is put my favorite cologne on first and wait 5-10 minutes and then layer the stealth pheromones on top and it works great. Some do it the other way around and put the pheromones first and then cologne on top. But for me I like the cologne first with the stealth series. The key is just to check the ingredients in whatever cologne you use and if it has any anti-bacterial ingredients to keep the app spot separate as this is what I have to do with my EO’s. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-pheromones-to-attract-young-subs-in-a-bondage-jam-dominant-m-30/66930/16 "2017-03-04T03:14:13Z")
Based on my experience, products like [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) and IJ are wonderful in such an environment. With or without P79 as catalyst for an increased impact.