# Hi! Please Take Time To Read, Trust me :) **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 19, 2010, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062 "2010-12-19T10:59:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![biggie90210](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@biggie90210](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/biggie90210)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/1 "2010-12-19T10:59:52Z")
Hey guys!šŸ™‚šŸ™‚ Before I tell you about myself, I want to ask you to please read this post in its entirety and help me as I have some very SERIOUS and IMPORTANT questions and I really need ur help. And if you really, and i mean really trully know the answers to some of my questions, then please answer. Ok, hereā€™s me in a nutshell: I am 23 years old, male. I am from Hollywood area. I am a student. I do a lot of clubbing and I approach (open) a lot of girls. And I want them to open more receptively and be attracted to me in a night club environment. I usually either talk to girls, or try to dance with them (i dont know if thatā€™s important pheromone wise, or is it?) I mainly talk to girls though rather than dance, so please keep that in mind. Iā€™m here because there are just so many products out there for pheromones, I donā€™t know how to separate the good from the bad or which one suits my needs, or just who to believe. ~I need YOUR help~ I know very little about pheromones, but what I do know is a lot of companies try to market snake oil as pheromones. Being a student I canā€™t afford to get ripped off, so please genuinely help! I first heard about pheromones when my friend pulled out a bottle of ā€œPherlureā€ and looked at me and told me, ā€œthis clogne makes girls horny.ā€ So far Pherlure is the pheromone I have. Having done some reading here, four pheromones have caught my attention. They are: AMMO, A314, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), and Instant Openess. Since I am on a budget I can only afford to buy one pheromone, maybe two. But unlikely. Which ones do you guys recommend for me and my needs? Also, where is the best place to apply each pheromone on the body? More importantly, if i were to combine some of these pheromones, whatā€™s the best and most effective way to combine them? Iā€™m very much gearing towards AMMO + A314 + Instant Shine. But i cannot afford all 3 at the moment. Any suggestions? **Also, should i get the 2x double strength or just the regular strength for? For which one should I get double strength and which ones should I get regular strength?** Oh and please send me as much gift certificates as possible, i really need them. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 1:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/2 "2010-12-19T13:15:10Z")
Well Hello There šŸ™‚ Welcome to Pherotalk OK I read your post twice and as far as I can tell this is your needā€¦ > [@](#): > > And I want them to **open more receptively** and be attracted to me in a night club environment. You didnt mention sexual attraction which is not the same as attraction. Depending on the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) you use you can create one or the other or both. I would not suggest A314 at this point. Its more for respect and status. Not that its not a excellent product, it is, it just doesnā€™t fit the needs you posted enough and your money would be best spent on other options first. AMMO and IO are what you should start with. Now if your looking to increase sexual arousal and interest in those environments you mentioned this will work but you have some other options as well. I am just going on what you wrote. Keep in mind that you will get one GC that will cover two to-go size products just about free. Plus I cant guarantee it but they usually always send a free gift. The to-go size has 40 sprays in it and is really affordable and great for trying things out so you can see what works best for you before sinking a lot of money into them. You also earn points on each dollar you spend. You get 10 points on every dollar spent and 100 points is $1 They have a refer a friend program to you may be interested in. You can read about that hereā€¦ [Earn Reward Points :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/) They also have first responder bonus points. Read about it hereā€¦ [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greeting-new-members-first-responder-bonus/913](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greeting-new-members-first-responder-bonus/913) Read the whole thread because the rules changed a little from when they first implemented the program. So you have a lot of options to save money and they are generous with the free gifts plus you have the support of the community to help your learn to use them. > [@](#): > > Also, where is the best place to apply each pheromone on the body? Start with pulse points on the wrists and neck. The back of the neck, chest, forearms and along the jaw line are all good. Depends on where you heat up. Bad places are pits and groin. Mones get stinky there. > [@](#): > > More importantly, if i were to combine some of these pheromones, whatā€™s the best and most effective way > to combine them? Layer them dont combine them in the same bottle. You dont have to wear one on top of the other you can apply some to your neck and another to your chest. \*\* > [@](#): > > **Also, should i get the 2x double strength or just the regular strength for? For which one should I get double strength and which ones should I get regular strength?** \*\* > [@](#): > Generally we tell people to get regular strength to start. You do not need double in AMMO that could just send you into the OD effect. On the more attractive social mixes like IShine IO IH you can get 2X. Generally you use more of those so this cuts down on the amount used and can save you some money. Plus you dont get the OD effect from these. This is another important thread to read to help you catch up on whats what here. > [@An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003): > > Welcome to an exciting world of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). By joining our community you have taken a HUGE step in progressing a science that is cutting edge and still in its infancy. This community is globally important in recognizing pheromones, and Neuroinfluence Technology ? and their impact on human communication. There are thousands of posts here and thousands more users. Each one of us, including you, adds a unique dynamic to the community from our individual perspectives, experiences and our research anā€¦ If you have any questions we are here to help. Oh and your wise to research first. While there are many good products out there most of the experienced users consider AD the top of the line mones. There are hyped up sights Pherlure being one of them that dont sell quality effective products. In this forum you will find many users who have tried them all so we can help sort things out for you. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![biggie90210](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@biggie90210](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/biggie90210)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/3 "2010-12-19T18:31:05Z")
Thank you, that was very helpful! One questions though: > [@](#): > > You didnt mention sexual attraction which is not the same as attraction. Depending on the pheromone you use you can create one or the other or both. I want sexual attraction. In fact, sexual attraction is very important because I instantly hug and touch the girl when I meet her and try to kiss her as soon as possible. Thats why I wanted to switch IO with IShine. Or is there a better way? Again, please help!!? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/4 "2010-12-19T18:52:46Z")
> [@](#): > > I want sexual attraction. In fact, sexual attraction is very important because I instantly hug and touch the girl when I meet her and try to kiss her as soon as possible. > > Thatā€™s why I wanted to switch IO with IShine. Or is there a better way? > > Again, please help!!? Ah OK, well AMMO will cause mild sexual attraction as well as interest. This one is good for all environments However you mentioned clubbing. For clubs, parties, dates, one on one encounters and social type environments I would suggest TUTH buffered by by either IO Ishine or IH Pick the one that fits your needs the most to go with the TUTH. IO for a more sexy fun vibe. IH for a more sexy intimate connection Ishine for a more sexy charismatic warmth and comfort. This one can also be fun. You want a higher ratio of the socials then the TUTH so when you layer your would use something like 1 spray of TUTH to 2 or 3 sprays of one of the above three. Of course you have to mess around with the dosage to find what works best for you since we are all different but your 23 so 1 to 3 sprays of TUTH is more then enough. I do suggest you get 2X in the social you pick so you cut back on sprays but not in TUTH. So then you could use 1 spray of the social to every one spray of TUTH to buffer. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![azazel249](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/azazel249/32/1585_2.png) [@azazel249](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/azazel249)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/5 "2010-12-20T01:03:35Z")
> [@biggie90210](#): > > Thank you, that was very helpful! > > One questions though: > > I want sexual attraction. In fact, sexual attraction is very important because I instantly hug and touch the girl when I meet her and try to kiss her as soon as possible. > > Thats why I wanted to switch IO with IShine. Or is there a better way? > > Again, please help!!? Now that was funny it really made my day ---
**Author:** ![biggie90210](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@biggie90210](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/biggie90210)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/6 "2010-12-20T06:19:56Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Ah OK, well AMMO will cause mild sexual attraction as well as interest. This one is good for all environments > > However you mentioned clubbing. > > For clubs, parties, dates, one on one encounters and social type environments I would suggest TUTH buffered by by either IO Ishine or IH > > Pick the one that fits your needs the most to go with the TUTH. > > IO for a more sexy fun vibe. > > IH for a more sexy intimate connection > > Ishine for a more sexy charismatic warmth and comfort. This one can also be fun. > > You want a higher ratio of the socials then the TUTH so when you layer your would use something like 1 spray of TUTH to 2 or 3 sprays of one of the above three. Of course you have to mess around with the dosage to find what works best for you since we are all different but your 23 so 1 to 3 sprays of TUTH is more then enough. I do suggest you get 2X in the social you pick so you cut back on sprays but not in TUTH. So then you could use 1 spray of the social to every one spray of TUTH to buffer. > > Tisha Thanks a lot Tisha this was VERY helpful. And thanks a bunch for taking the time and really helping me out, its been very helpful for me like I said. I just have ONE MORE question. Hopefully you get to see this: So Iā€™m going with IO2x and AMMO, hopefully Iā€™ll get TUTH as a gift. But I saw ā€œCome talk to meā€ which is out of stock. Can you shed a little light on Come talk to me? It sounds kinda similar to IO. Any info on that will definitely be appreciated šŸ™‚ Thanks again! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 6:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/7 "2010-12-20T06:38:43Z")
> [@biggie90210](#): > > Thanks a lot Tisha this was VERY helpful. And thanks a bunch for taking the time and really helping me out, its been very helpful for me like I said. > > I just have ONE MORE question. Hopefully you get to see this: > > So Iā€™m going with IO2x and AMMO, hopefully Iā€™ll get TUTH as a gift. > > But I saw ā€œCome talk to meā€ which is out of stock. Can you shed a little light on Come talk to me? It sounds kinda similar to IO. Any info on that will definitely be appreciated šŸ™‚ > > Thanks again! You can ask as many questions as you like. I love questions LOL I know Iā€™m weird. šŸ˜› There is a note section on the order form. You could ask that if they do decide to send a sample could they please send TUTH. Cant say they will definitely do it but its worth a shot and worked for some other members. CTTM is a 50/50 mix of anol and bnol. So its very similar to IO and IH minus the added [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) that push these two mixes toward sexy fun (IO) and intimate connection (IH) CTTM is more raw. Its just plain chatty without all the other vibes and emotions that come with IO and IH. In my opinion I find IO and IH to be much more deep and effective. Its good to get people talking to you though but it just ends up being mindless chatter. Frankly sometimes when I use it I feel like telling people to shut up LOL Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/8 "2010-12-20T20:56:38Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Biggie! I am glad you came to us for assistance. I work here so you probably wonā€™t believe me but we do have quality products and offer a lot of deals especially when it comes to your first purchase. In addition to the $25 gc donā€™t forget the 500 reward points for registering for the store. Tisha took care of all your questions and her advice excellent. I hope that when you made your purchase and have started testing that you will come back and share your experiences with us. Your gc was issued! ---
**Author:** ![biggie90210](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@biggie90210](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/biggie90210)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/9 "2010-12-21T05:02:01Z")
Okay I just made my order! Let me first thank [tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23) for being being so helpful. She clearly took the time and really truly helped me out. People like that are rare- donā€™t ever change šŸ™‚ Additionally, I want to thank Steve for being such as bad ass, and helping me on the phone and schooling me on different pheromones. I decided to go with IO (regular strength) and AMMO (regular strength). I will use them and write a review here. In my future review I will do my best to review the pheromones itself and distinguish between the pheromones, my game, and my looks to see how the pheromones themselves are working and their value. Comments to this post are welcomed and encouraged šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/10 "2010-12-21T18:58:58Z")
> [@biggie90210](#): > > Okay I just made my order! > > Let me first thank [tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23) for being being so helpful. She clearly took the time and really truly helped me out. People like that are rare- donā€™t ever change šŸ™‚ > > Additionally, I want to thank Steve for being such as bad ass, and helping me on the phone and schooling me on different pheromones. > > I decided to go with IO (regular strength) and AMMO (regular strength). > > I will use them and write a review here. > > In my future review I will do my best to review the pheromones itself and distinguish between the pheromones, my game, and my looks to see how the pheromones themselves are working and their value. > > Comments to this post are welcomed and encouraged šŸ™‚ Hey biggie! Tisha is AWESOME in her supportā€¦ a bit on the verbose side, but thatā€™s just another reason why we all love her input! Sweet choice of AMMO and IO! For your reviews, I suggest you open up a new journal in the Menā€™s Section so that other users can post and comment and provide general good humoured banter!!! šŸ˜ƒ Welcome to the forum! ---
**Author:** ![biggie90210](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@biggie90210](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/biggie90210)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/11 "2010-12-22T01:47:36Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > Hey biggie! Tisha is AWESOME in her supportā€¦ a bit on the verbose side, but thatā€™s just another reason why we all love her input! > > Sweet choice of AMMO and IO! For your reviews, I suggest you open up a new journal in the Menā€™s Section so that other users can post and comment and provide general good humoured banter!!! šŸ˜ƒ > > Welcome to the forum! YOOOO! Thanks for the warm welcome. I have read some of your field reports (or shall I say pheromone reports šŸ˜ƒ) and theyre great! Let me ask you something, From reading your stuff it seems like the IO and AMMO work the best. Along with A314. Is there another pheromone that you think works noticeably? Do you think overall pheromones make a difference with girls or is it simply mind over matter? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/12 "2010-12-22T02:24:08Z")
šŸ˜® ā€œverbose sideā€ šŸ˜® Are you saying I talk to much ? I would be insulted but its true. LOL, I blame it on the pheromones but the truth is I talked non stop from the minute I learned my first word. I was the little kid always asking why LOL Ok I will shut up for a while its gonna be hard though LOL šŸ˜‰ Tisha ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 5:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/13 "2010-12-22T05:07:11Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > šŸ˜® ā€œverbose sideā€ šŸ˜® > > Are you saying I talk to much ? I would be insulted but its true. LOL, I blame it on the pheromones but the truth is I talked non stop from the minute I learned my first word. I was the little kid always asking why LOL > > Ok I will shut up for a while its gonna be hard though LOL šŸ˜‰ > > Tisha Come on, Tisha! YOU giving the silent treatment?!?! It just wouldnā€™t be the same around here without your constant communicationsā€¦ šŸ˜ƒ Always lovely to read your well thought and wonderfully ā€˜verboseā€™ posts!!! Feel like my favorite class is in session and the mone Professor is passionately discoursing when you post!!! For biggie, Mones WORKā€¦ Nowā€¦ some have guesstemated that itā€™s about 10% mones and 90% about your ā€˜gameā€™ or social skills. Any way you slice it, YOU are the primary part of the equationā€¦ If YOU are the weakest link in the equation, it will all suffer!!! With that in mind, the cool thing about mones is that they also will likely produce some awesome self effects. Like the A314 in meā€¦ when I recently wore A314, oil based, with A314a and some IS, I felt like a power house, confident and VERY Alpha male here, with a crook of a smileā€¦ THIS welling feeling HELPED me become congruent with the mone signals, though, Iā€™ve been perceived as an alpha male prior to mones BECAUSE Iā€™ve been working on it. Does that make mones irrelevant then? No, I have my trouble in maintaining that alpha male position without the mones. With them, I feel unstoppable. Now, the funny thing is, that on my dry days without any mones, this Alphaness is still congruent in me and others around me still perceive me as such even WITHOUT the monesā€¦ I have been ā€˜trainingā€™ my personality to be the top dawg and LIVE it and mones have helped tremendously to quiet down the self doubt and uncertainty that will creep into my brain!!! This is just an example of how mones will effect your person and then, you will be in congruence with the mone vibe you want to project. People WILL, including gals, unconsciously, perceive this signal with your mones. Will they all fall for that signal? NOā€¦ If youā€™re hungry, and you get a whiff of grilled steak, man, you start salivating and you look for the source to see if you can grab a bite. If your not as hungry, you may get a whiff of that same grilled steak, and NOTICE it, but not act on it. What if your hungry, get a whiff of that grilled steak, and YOUR a vegetarian??? Then, likely, you wonā€™t have the same anxiety of eating the steakā€¦ Just a simplified comparison to give you an idea of why mones WONā€™T provide an Axe-like response in EVERY GAL you meetā€¦ For those that are attracted to your signalā€¦ YOU need to bring 'em in with your wit, charm and personalityā€¦ DAMN!!! Now, who is being verbose?!?šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![kairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4da419/32.png) [@kairn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kairn)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2010, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-please-take-time-to-read-trust-me/44062/14 "2010-12-22T21:39:59Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > This is just an example of how mones will effect your person and then, you will be in congruence with the mone vibe you want to project. People WILL, including gals, unconsciously, perceive this signal with your mones. Will they all fall for that signal? > > NOā€¦ If youā€™re hungry, and you get a whiff of grilled steak, man, you start salivating and you look for the source to see if you can grab a bite. If your not as hungry, you may get a whiff of that same grilled steak, and NOTICE it, but not act on it. What if your hungry, get a whiff of that grilled steak, and YOUR a vegetarian??? Then, likely, you wonā€™t have the same anxiety of eating the steakā€¦ > Just a simplified comparison to give you an idea of why mones WONā€™T provide an Axe-like response in EVERY GAL you meetā€¦ > > For those that are attracted to your signalā€¦ YOU need to bring 'em in with your wit, charm and personalityā€¦ DAMN!!! Bingo! Depending on pheromones entirely would be like living on vitamin pills aloneā€¦ and then we would be having lustful relationships with our pheromone bottles [cut the wearer out of the equation :D] Besides thereā€™s no one-size-fits-all solution, it has to be meticulously customized for YOU (the so called sweet spot)ā€¦