# Hi there!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-there/22273>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [October 30, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-there/22273 "2008-10-30T16:21:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Pukshiva539](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2bfe46/32.png) [@Pukshiva539](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pukshiva539)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-there/22273/1 "2008-10-30T16:21:38Z")

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Hi  
My name’s Grant, I’m male, 39 going on 40 living in Tunbridge Wells, South-East England and I’m very interested in pheromones and sexual osphresiology in general.  
I’m in an unusual position in that I have a fairly severe disability (Spinal Muscular Atrophy) which sort of puts the mockers on sexual relationships, especially when combined with the associated depression from being in such a position, so my interests are mainly centered on the more social aspects of pheromone usage. Nevertheless I have had an interest in pheromones since I was about 14 when I got some (probably “none” based) stuff called PheromoneX, which had the remarkable effect of surrounding me with every woman at the party. Nowadays, thanks to thinking people like these great and generous (thanks for the freebies Alice!) folks at Andriotics the pheromone scene is becoming more and more interesting and scientific.  
I am currently using [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) the most as I found that it has an excellent effect on my mind, alleviating the worst of my depression in seconds. This stuff should be available on prescription! First I got the ToGo 1x version and I LIKE! Unfortunately I have almost run out of that now so I will be ordering some more, probably 4x, as soon as I get my voucher - $30 postage to the U.K makes small orders uneconomical, so the $25 will mean I can make my order really count.  
Recommended books on sexual osphresiology are:

1. Odoratus Sexualis by Iwan Bloch. It’s old but a fascinating read, and it’s in English, not Latin.
2. The Scented Ape by D Michael Stoddart, much more scientific in it’s approach, with a really interestin diagram of the scent gland distribution on the human male and female bodies (The glands are in some surprising places like between the eyebrows, and either side of the nostrils). Well worth getting.  
Any further recommendations by fellow PheroTalkers will be warmly welcomed.

P.S  
Does anyone know how the human body can make lots more pheromones than normal? I ask because about 3 or 4 years ago I noticed that occasionally my urine would REEK of the very distinctive smell of Androstenone. Having had that spray many years ago, coupled with a decent sense and memory of scents I immediately recognised it, unless there is another smell very much like it.  
I probably should have bottled the stuff. If anyone can shed further light on that particularly wierd episode in my life I would love to hear it.

Take care fellow PheroFreaks!

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**Author:** ![disciple.of.socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@disciple.of.socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/disciple.of.socrates)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-there/22273/2 "2008-10-30T17:59:32Z")

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welcome Grant!

hows the UK? have a buddy from out there.

that is an interesting episode you had in the bathroom. i have no scientific credibility for what you experienced. i’d actually like to know why as well.

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**Author:** ![Tenant](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tenant/32/1668_2.png) [@Tenant](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tenant)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-there/22273/3 "2008-10-30T18:04:30Z")

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Hey Grant 😃

Welcome to pherotalk.  
It sounds like you already have some experience with [pheromones](https://a314.com/), so I do not need to reassure you that they work 😃

Instant shine is definitely awesome. I am warming up to the communication pheromones myself, IO and IH. They produce subtle, yet profound effects.

Not sure about the pheromone production question you asked. But, from the was things like steroids work, we know if you supplement something like testosterone in your body with other similar substances that your body will think, “Hey, we’ve already got a lot of this stuff, lets cut back on production.” (Hence the ball-shrinking problem with steroids)–don’t worry I don’t take steroids, my friend who does was telling me about it yesterday, and the example just popped to mind–so, instead, if you can somehow suppress recognition of substances in your body, your body might think, “hey, we’re not producing enough, lets ramp up production.”

No idea how to achieve that though, and if you would want to. Sounds particularly dangerous.

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**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 6:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-there/22273/4 "2008-10-30T18:08:32Z")

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Hi Grant, welcome to the forum.

There are experts on here, like Tisha, she issues the GCs. I can tell you that as we age, we produce less natural pheromones. Why this happens, I cannot say. Glad you like the Ishine, it’s one of my favorite’s as well. Have you tried [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)? A;so, you might want to consider Come Talk To Me, which is half Instant Openness and half Instant Honesty, like getting 2 for 1!

Hope this helps!

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**Author:** ![Pukshiva539](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/2bfe46/32.png) [@Pukshiva539](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pukshiva539)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-there/22273/5 "2008-10-30T19:15:21Z")

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Many thanks for the comments. I noticed that there is a medical doctor’s discussion group here, perhaps they might know why my water smelled so “noney” and whether I would make a profitable PheroMine! It happened several times for a few days at a time. I don’t remember any unusual drug taking at the time or, for that matter, anything different about my diet. This strangeness was also symptomless, apart from the odour of course. I do remember female visitors being more friendly than usual though I can’t be sure that that wasn’t psychological on my part.  
The other great pheromone, in my opinion, is Instant Female magic. It’s great for cranky women from mums (that’s Moms for Americans) to sisters to physiotherapists, even if it’s not you their annoyed at. Bloody marvellous stuff! It definitely works! I shall have to be very careful about this OD thing, though.  
I’m still awaiting the chance to try [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty, but I look forward to the day I do.  
And I’ll save the Ammo for the lap dancers at JJ’s…

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-there/22273/6 "2008-10-31T03:00:06Z")

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

Looks like your a little familiar with mones already which is great, this will make things easier for you.

I love Ishine its great. I do suggest you get 4X.

So your looking for some socials. I suggest CTTM which is a 50/50 mix of anol (IO) and Bnol (IH). IFM is also good for causing comfort and a feeling of well being in females around you. You would use this to the back of the neck so it would effect you. It can cause a down feeling in men and you have had issues with this already.

Diet is possibly the culprit for the increase in anone smell in your urine. Some food increase the amount in our waste. Certain drugs can also cause this to happen. Its hard to say without testing. The smell of anone is not caused by the anone itself but by Corynebacterium. There is a possibility that you were exposed to alot of the bacteria for some reason which increased the smell of anone. Its not really the scent that attracts but the molecule behind the scent which diffuses off the body, travels to the neurotransmitters in the brain triggering a signal. The scent is secondary meaning if the same molecule smelled like roses it would do the same thing.

**Your GC is on its way.** 😉  
If you have any questions just ask.

Tisha
