# Hi. Wow! This is overwhelming!!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-wow-this-is-overwhelming/60354>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [October 29, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-wow-this-is-overwhelming/60354 "2013-10-29T20:28:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hello\_Kitty\_RN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19adc/32.png) [@Hello\_Kitty\_RN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hello_Kitty_RN)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-wow-this-is-overwhelming/60354/1 "2013-10-29T20:28:00Z")

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Good evening all,  
Sooooooo… I am a registered nurse, I run a cancer clinic in Texas. A new doctor started working there about 4 months ago. He is my age. He has 1 year experience outside of med school. I’ve been an Oncology RN for 8 years. We get along, but he is finicky, stubborn, overly confident, and disorganized, and has major ADD. We are quite opposites, and he is driving me crazy!! Long story short, I need a [pheromone scent](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/) that will make him more receptive to my suggestions and persuasion. It’s safe to say we do have good chemistry, although I am not trying to sleep with him or anything. Just need him to relate good feelings with my being present. Make sense?  
So I’m TOTALLY lost reading through some of these forums. Didn’t realize I would need a whole pheromone lingo translator for all of the ‘mones abbreviations and such.  
I bought a rollerball tube of Pure Instinct some years ago (which I realize now is very low in pheromones) but it worked amazingly well for me. So, today I remembered that, stopped by a perfume store and bought REALM for women at the tune of $35. Afterward reading up on this stuff, that stuff is pretty weak, too. (Although it did give me quite a lift, personally, and the Young Doctor was hanging around me a lot more than usual. And getting closer than usual, too. Hmmm…  
So I Wikipedia’d pheromones, and learned about a study which suggests that people choose scents for themselves to wear which actually enhances their own underlying body chemistry, and are attracted to people with opposing body chemistries, all based on our immune systems and having to do with breeding with a mate that would yield offspring of a stronger genetic makeup due to heterogeneity of the opposing traits being combined.  
Needless to say, this is all a bit more complex than I first surmised.  
So, bottom line - what is the best way to find out which pheromones work best for me in altering others’ behaviors around me (positively) and which pheromones should I avid wasting my money on?  
All help greatly appreciated. 🙂

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**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-wow-this-is-overwhelming/60354/2 "2013-10-29T21:57:06Z")

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Hi Hello Kitty RN, welcome to pherotalk!

That’s a lot of information! That’s good. What type of suggestion and persuasion are you talking about? Do you find that his disorganization and ADD make his decision making in his profession a bit off? Is that being the type of persuasion that you need so you can make him see more clearly the more reasonable choice to take? Sorry if that was worded strangely.

That being said, I have always heard that a314 which is a male [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) is great for business, although your line is definitely different than just business. It might be something you can look into before making an educated purchase or maybe someone else can chime in on how a314 works when applied on women.

Other than that, IH is a product which does make people seem to trust you more easily. That may be something that you can consider looking into.

If you are looking for suggestions outside of the instant line (instant line is great for phero newbies BTW) check out this thread.

> [@Womens Pheromone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-pheromone-guide/4258):
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> Revised for 2010/11 Ok ladies here is the start of my pheromone guide you asked for. I will be adding to it but I wanted to post something to get it started. (Mens guide located in the “Pheromone theory” sticky section) When posting about your pheromone experiences please try to add the dose on the bottle. How much you used and where you sprayed it on your body. This makes it easier for Jas and others to figure out what works and what doesnt and why. Due to Androtics no longer being able to …

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> **MX134: Now sold as MX300 This mix is for women and is similar to the men’s product MX314. One masculine pheromone was removed and replaced with TAL. Contain the tiniest trace of cops.**  
> **This mix is great for work. It gives off a respect vibe, Jasmin reported it was “Goddess like, Alpha Female” People tend to be very accommodating and helpful when they are exposed to this mix.**  
> [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bring-your-mx134-to-work-week/3429](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bring-your-mx134-to-work-week/3429)

Anyway, if you have any more questions please feel free to ask us.

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Kitty\_RN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19adc/32.png) [@Hello\_Kitty\_RN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hello_Kitty_RN)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-wow-this-is-overwhelming/60354/3 "2013-10-29T22:50:15Z")

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Hi Roland, thanks so much for your reply!  
How funny because I just finished reading Jasmin’s Women’s [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) guide as well as her compilation of female user comments for each product, before I came back here and saw your post.  
So you are right on about my goal with the doc. Need him to be more focused, yes, but more so need him to allow me to help him stay on task/offer suggestions/correct him gently, without threatening his ego/masculinity. He is the type who always has to be right, and never apologizes when he is wrong but rather justifies it or finds an excuse for the mistake.  
I’m thinking you are right about the IH. Can’t hurt. Also want to try IS to brighten his (and my) mood and outlook - seems it would be a helpful tool for the office, seeing that we are facing terminal cancer patients and that makes either of us gloomy from time to time.  
I can’t thank you enough for taking the time to answer me. I’ve never participated in a forum before. I’m afraid it is instantly addicting. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-wow-this-is-overwhelming/60354/4 "2013-10-30T01:32:55Z")

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Hello and welcome!

For pheromones to make women more persuasive/men more receptive to their opinions I’m really stumped, if you were male I could make a few recommendations. As far as the [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) might work, he might also just tell you “shut your trap I’m a Doctor” if that’s what he’s thinking but it’s worth a try, I’d pair it along with Instant Shine as well to maybe make him a bit more pleasant.

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Kitty\_RN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19adc/32.png) [@Hello\_Kitty\_RN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hello_Kitty_RN)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 8:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-wow-this-is-overwhelming/60354/5 "2013-10-30T08:35:37Z")

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Hi Ryan, so pleased to make your acquaintance, and thank you for your response!  
Gotta say, you are all over these forums and I have loved reading your thoughts. I feel so special that you have paid a visit to my thread 🙂  
I have to comment on your insight about there not being as much variety by the way of female products as exists for men. What’s up with that? Anyway, I totally agree with trying IH and IS in my situation. Seems it would be the best recipe available, to get me started.  
As far as the doc I work with, I’m quite certain he has wanted to say to me - how did you so eloquently put it? - oh yeah, “Shut your trap, I’m a doctor” on many occasions. I can totally see it in his eyes! Lol! Hoping for not quite that much honesty, let’s hope the shine is a good counterbalance.  
Thanks so much for your thoughts! I can tell you have a quick wit - I like that. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ryanmercer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ryanmercer/32/1569_2.png) [@ryanmercer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ryanmercer)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 8:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi-wow-this-is-overwhelming/60354/6 "2013-10-30T08:39:33Z")

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Haha as far as wit, I try.

As far as the lack of the female line of products, eh I suppose I just need to go to the female-specific section and read a few pages of threads haha, I just don’t like commenting on things I haven’t tried. I’ve got a decent online presence and don’t like vouching for a product I’ve not tried so I’ve not made it a priority.

I do find that generally grumpy people cheer up a bit from Instant Shine but I’ve never had someone that disagreeable to try it on, it’s worth a shot. You could even use the [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) to just go “Hey, look I think you don’t like me but we have to work together so what can we both do to achieve a more friendly dialogue” it’s worth a shot but I’d wait till you get a feel for the IH first.
