# Hi **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [August 25, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/31858 "2009-08-25T03:25:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TragerW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/45deac/32.png) [@TragerW](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TragerW)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/31858/1 "2009-08-25T03:25:15Z")
Hi there. My name is Will but I go by Billy and I’m in the age range of 18/under. I live in South Texas around the Bryan/Collage Station Area. **Why I’m Here** Well, there’s this girl I’ve been trying to get attention from for a long time. I’m in love with her and there’s nothing I can do about it. After swarming Google with millions of questions, I eventually ended up at a yahoo page talking about Pheromones. It seemed interesting so I started looking around for information on it. I’ve been to tons of sites charging tons of money for bottles and that I’m afraid is just something I simply don’t have. I’m not gonna lie. I’m here posting this for the $25. I think If I could just test out a product and see if it has an effect, then I could get her to at least notice me more. Even if its just a little. But I certainly wouldn’t mind learning about this research a little more while I’m here. **Questions** Are there any side effects to using [Pheromone sprays](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/)? If any, how serious are they? Are there any types of Pheromone applications that are under $25 and work? ---
**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/31858/2 "2009-08-25T03:49:09Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum!! Well you are under the age of 18 so from there I can say the only thing I will say is some instant shine. Most likely though, you will need other help outside of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to change anything. You too young and some might just be maturity Best of luck! ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/31858/3 "2009-08-25T04:05:13Z")
Welcome to the forums Billy. Side effects: well, if you overdose on some pheromones, you’ll get a “ghosting” effect where some people will ignore you. Some pheros like Instant Jerk can cause people to react negatively to you. Most of the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) like the Instant range are hard to OD on. Phero apps under $25: Well, I won’t kid you: Androtics’ products ain’t that cheap. Although I think that they’re bloody excellent value for money. The reason is, they use the best materials to make their products. And because of that, the products _work,_ unlike some products which are simply scams and rip-offs. You can get going inexpensively by buying the smaller to-go sizes. As for this girl: your desperation and neediness is going to drive her away. I’m sorry if that sounds harsh. I think it needs to be said. The best way to get attention from girls is simply to have a good life. Have a vision in life, a vision _for_ your life, that you are passionate about and that you pursue strongly. Girls will be attracted to that drive and passion and want to be a part of it, and part of your life. You may or may not get this particular girl you want, but you _will_ find wonderful women who will contribute a lot to your happiness and success. ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/31858/4 "2009-08-25T04:24:09Z")
HI there, Welcome to the forum. Pheromones are not drug. It will not give you any health side effect. The side effect might be you can’t live without pheromones. lol For your age, I will recommend you use the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/). Try IO, IH and Shine. IO will make her want to talk to you. You will enjoy more conversation with her. IH will make her talk more serious, deeper and more personal with you. This can make her coser to you. Shine will lighten her mood as well as yours. It can also boost your confident. It is a feel good pheromone. Good luck ---
**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/31858/5 "2009-08-25T04:54:28Z")
Billy, again, we dont have the bad intentions, I can totally say that I think way different now at 23 than I did at under 18, and I still know now at 23 I am not always “thinking mature”. Its a process in which we learn from. Back track me months ago, I was having issues with a friend, and was asking for advice.. Although I got amazing advice, more or less it boils down to self maturity.. I am not even close to saying I can maintain my maturity, but it comes in time.. Therefore, I still suggest you realize that although you might get your gift cert and get a batch of whatever, that may help you work on your shyness/openess, what are you going to do a month from now when the issue becomes I can talk to her but I cant move anywhere else?? Just things to look out for.. Honestly, your still young, very young, take a deep breath, and talk to her.. If it doesnt work, dont waste your time.. I had that now and then when I was your age, dont let it waste your time, it wasted a lot of mine… ---
**Author:** ![AlexanderG](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexanderg/32/891_2.png) [@AlexanderG](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AlexanderG)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/31858/6 "2009-08-25T06:45:36Z")
Trager, go to the smartmones website and buy a selection of the small “to-go” bottles to test. This is very inexpensive especially after the gift certificate 🙂 Welcome to the community. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/31858/7 "2009-08-25T17:45:24Z")
Hello and welcome to PheroTalk. I am so happy you were able to discover this most amazing community. We consider each other like family here and are totally committed to helping each other out. There are so many great people here and now another too 🙂. Currently we are in the process of seeking out an additional forum moderator or two to help with the upkeep of the forum. With that in mind I will be issuing your GC in just a short while to your email. I would love to be able to personally respond to every new user signing on, but because I want to ensure you get the GC in time I can only reply with this message at this time. I’m sure you are anxious to get started, just like the rest of us were too 🙂. Its cool! Of course I am available to answer any question you might have regarding mones selection by calling me personally on the hotline. Please select extension one and I will be able to consult you one on one. Welcome to the forum. ---
**Author:** ![TragerW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/45deac/32.png) [@TragerW](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TragerW)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/31858/8 "2009-08-28T01:48:35Z")
hey thanks for your input but I have one last question. Say you’re wearing a [pheromone](https://a314.com/), and a girl is talking to another guy but takes in yours. Will the effect still take place but with the male she has her attention on? Or is it like a scent that is strictly identified as you? ---
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/31858/9 "2009-08-28T03:52:30Z")
Thats a good question trager and deserves a good answer! I’m not going to try, but as I read this thread, something came up to my mind over and over again that someone said up there, and I’m just going to repeat it again, because I really do believe, being 18, still in high school, and having had it both ways, that this is what makes or breaks a boy in his dating life. If it wouldn’t be considered flooding/spamming, I would paste it ten times, but maybe you should print it out and put it on your wall or in a personal place and read it at least once a day, because it is exactly what you need to know. As for this girl: your desperation and neediness is going to drive her away. I’m sorry if that sounds harsh. I think it needs to be said. The best way to get attention from girls is simply to have a good life. Have a vision in life, a vision _for_ your life, that you are passionate about and that you pursue strongly. Girls will be attracted to that drive and passion and want to be a part of it, and part of your life. You may or may not get this particular girl you want, but you _will_ find wonderful women who will contribute a lot to your happiness and success. ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 7:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/31858/10 "2009-08-28T07:11:43Z")
> [@](#): > > Will the effect still take place but with the male she has her attention on? Or is it like a scent that is strictly identified as you? No, she should be able to identify it as you. It’s attatched to you, and she should be able to pick up on whose smell it is fairly quickly. Like a loud fart, everyone knows where the smell is coming from.\* Sometimes guys can try to “steal” your pheromone signature IF you don’t follow up on it. So act congruently with your pheros. \*Sorry, I shouldn’t OD on [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) while posting. ---
**Author:** ![Jusah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jusah/32/894_2.png) [@Jusah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jusah)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/31858/11 "2009-08-30T05:09:31Z")
About the girl you’re wanting, I know how you feel, I was there tons of times, and if I’ve learned anything, is that you can’t put her on a pedestal, the neediness can drive her away, and if you really want any shot with her at all, you need to change your mindset COMPLETELY. You cannot think once, Hey, I like this girl, I wish I could be a part of her life. You need to think, Hey that girl is nice, if she’s smart, she might take a part of my life. A girl (I dunno how) can since that you want something, and its her natural response to put up shields and do everything she can to block you out. She HAS to think of you as a higher value than her to feel any attraction at all for you. You just have to drop hopes of having her, and think of yourself as being the alpha male that every woman wants, and when you really think of yourself that way, the girls will feel it, and start to chase you. I know it sounds silly, but this works, its called affermation, look it up if you want. Repeat to yourself many times a day, I am comfortable and confident, Any woman would be lucky to have me. While you say that to yourself, you need to imagine it, at first your mind’s BS shield will repel the idea, but after a few weeks or so, you will accept the idea, and become the man every girl would be lucky to have..