# Hi **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [July 15, 2012, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/56141 "2012-07-15T12:27:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Phero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3be4f8/32.png) [@Phero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phero)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/56141/1 "2012-07-15T12:27:31Z")
Hello, I’m a 18 year old guy from a little country in Europe called Estonia. I’m a tall, guess a bit funny guy who goes regulary to the gym and plays guitar in his spare time. My music taste has always been different from my friends, I mostly listen to metal and lately I’ve started listening to metalcore too 😕 Well, the reason how I ended up here is that, about a year ago I found, kind of randomly, a product that promised to get all the women and so on.. First I was really sceptical, I hadn’t heard anything of [pheromones](https://a314.com/).. so I started searching and reading about those stuff and luckily I found that this product was some sh\*t that some guy wanted to sell me. But I found a website where a dude tried different mones giving some good information about his test results and so on. So after that I was more interested in pheromones. I read really a bunch of articles about pheromones, watched some videos on youtube that said that this is a myth and got a bit sceptical again. And now I found this place here, where lots of people see changes with mones and I really believe that this stuff really works. So I want to try it myself. I haven’t had a really good lovelife to be honest.. I don’t have problems chatting with girls or anything, but my problem is that I’m just a nice guy. I mean, I always have nice conversations with those girls that I’m interested in and normally I’m instantly friendzoned. And another problem, that I found lately, is that.. I had a crush on girl that I knew for like 2 years.. Yes.. we we’re like friends for 2 years and then I thought that I might try something new.. so I tried to get a date with her for several months till she said yes.. we wen’t out on dinner, everything was fine cause we we’re friends, till she had to leave and I didn’t tell my feelings to her. So the next day I couldn’t stay at home, I just took my car and drove to her home. I told her everything I had to say, she needed some time to think about that situation cause, yeah, we’ve known each other for 2 years. She told my that I could’ve done that a year ago, then it would be better or something.. Well.. the next day we were both on a friend’s birthday party, we talked for a long time, hugged each other.. she was just starting the conversation that she wants to be friends etc.. but I kept telling her about my thoughts and I felt like there’s a little part of her that wants to make it happen, cause yeah, I’m not gonna write the whole conversation we had cause my introduction is already too long 😃 At the end, she wanted more time, the next day she sended me a sms saying that I know what she wants and we don’t have to discuss this topic again.. well.. now I haven’t spoken to her for like 2 weeks. The point of this story was that I’m felling in love with someone that I know for too long.. and that’s bullshit. Anyways.. one reason why I want to try the pheromones, is that I don’t want to stay as the kind of nice guy, I want to be more. I still want to be around that girl, but for me it feels like she needs a little spark, a little something to make it happen. And I don’t want that those guys who kind of are chasing her right now get a chance cause I, and my friends just know that these guys just want to fuck her. So.. I thought I might use some pheromones to make things better, or if not, I’ll stay as a friend, and try the pheromones for other girls 🙄 I found here that there are a lot of good results about TUTH and Ammo , so I thought I might try these but I just wanted to ask you guys if you would give me some better advice. I found the 2 pheromones also being not too expensive as I don’t want to spend 100s of euros for pheromones. And I know, some might read this and tell me, that this is absolute bullshit what I’m in and I should move on or whatever, but I find that it would be a kind of nice revenge making her wanting me and I could “play a game” even if I’m not really this kind of person. We’ll this post is really long. Oh and, does anyone know how much the shipping would cost to Estonia? ---
**Author:** ![Marihino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marihino/32/1286_2.png) [@Marihino](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marihino)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/56141/2 "2012-07-15T14:29:59Z")
Hi, I’ll start from the end - shipping will be about 20$. It sounds like a lot, but you’ll probably get the package in about two days, which is pretty amazing (from Los Angeles to Europe). Some companies charge less, but you wait weeks… As for that girl - it’s really hard to get out of friendzone. Not entirely impossible (and pheromones can certainly help, but it’s one of those situations where nothing can be guarenteed) but very difficult. Be cool, become a bit unavailable for her, have other life, other girls in it. She may want you one day, but not before you are a challenge for her. Until then, she will fuck with your mind. For the pheromone choice - please read the sticky threads here in the Introductions section as well as in the Men’s subforum. All questions you can possibly have at this stage, have been answered very well there. I wouldn’t recommend TUTH for sure. Maybe when you have your established girlfriend, then you can use in the bedroom. Other than that, not at your age. You’ll stumble upon some answer why. Single shot of Ammo might be alright. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) for sure, and socials - Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, Instant Shine. IG and IS should be a powerful combo for a guy like you. Welcome to the Pheromone Talk 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![FightOn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@FightOn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FightOn)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/56141/3 "2012-07-15T15:58:01Z")
Welcome Phero! I’m also an 18 year old guy that is very new to pheromones. For an 18 year old, a product like TUTH is generally going to be too strong and cause you to OD quite easily. Even more than a spray of AMMO may be too much. I’d suggest trying out Ammo to see if it suits you and then combining it with a [social pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) such as instant openness, shine, or honesty to give you a social appeal in addition to the vibe provided by ammo. Happy testing =) ---
**Author:** ![Phero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3be4f8/32.png) [@Phero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phero)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/56141/4 "2012-07-16T10:44:00Z")
Well thank you guys.. and a good friend of mine also advises me to live my own life for some time, talk to other chicks etc till she will call me first.. and in about 2 weeks I will probably see her on a party, so we’ll see how it will end up 😛 ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/56141/5 "2012-07-16T11:01:42Z")
Hiya Phero! Yes, I thought you have a good intro post. Welcome to the mone forum. I would have to steer you, from my experience, to IG and IShine or possibly, IO as a combo that would be of benefit to you. AMMO is a good one as well, with a sexy undercurrent to it that you can pop out with your actions. THOUGH, I would strongly recommend the single strength AND ONLY using 1 spray or less. Good times away for your testing. 😉 Do start up a journal in the men’s section and let us all know how your mones worked out for you! ---
**Author:** ![Phero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3be4f8/32.png) [@Phero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phero)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 11:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/56141/6 "2012-07-16T11:37:28Z")
I also wanted to ask how long does a 0.16 lbs bottle and a 0.02 bottle last? I’m not sure if I would want to use mones regulary every day. I just read alot here that IS, IG would be a good choice and with ammo it would be a nice combo. But just the price of the 0.16 lbs bottle of ammo reaches my budget that I would want to spend on pheromones cause I would also have to pay a bit more for the shipping 😛 I would buy the to-go bottles of ammo and IG but I’m not sure how long they would last.. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/56141/7 "2012-07-16T12:49:33Z")
5 ml - @ 40 sprays 30 ml - @ 200 sprays Roughly… ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hi/56141/8 "2012-07-17T13:02:38Z")
Welcome Phero, The shipping cost to Estonia is actually $39.95 but thank Marihino for taking up that estimation on his own. All orders take a 24-48 hours processing time and all international orders delivery time is 3-5 business days. Some arrive sooner but that depends on the country and customs. Being a nice or kind person is never the problem. The friend zone is a hard place to get out of and stay out of. What the term means is that you let girls treat you how they want and take advantage and for that reason and many others they see you as a friend and a non sexual partner. The men in the men section will guide you how to maintain your individuality by being a nice guy but making sure you know what to do when it comes to women. _ **Your gc wa** __ **s issued!** _