# High Doses of A1 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 18, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100 "2010-03-18T00:14:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/1 "2010-03-18T00:14:27Z")
Did a quick search, but came up empty. I have a 25mcg/spray dilution of A1 and out of pure curiosity I’m wondering what something like 10 sprays might do (other than make me smell like an orange field exploded 😃). Has anyone tried this or read about someone else doing this? Thanks. Oh, and I haven’t noticed post-A1 depression that some people get and I’ve used up to ~60-70mcg at once, so I’m not worried about possible negative self effects. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/2 "2010-03-18T01:30:35Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > Did a quick search, but came up empty. I have a 25mcg/spray dilution of A1 and out of pure curiosity I’m wondering what something like 10 sprays might do (other than make me smell like an orange field exploded 😃). Has anyone tried this or read about someone else doing this? Thanks. > > Oh, and I haven’t noticed post-A1 depression that some people get and I’ve used up to ~60-70mcg at once, so I’m not worried about possible negative self effects. I’ve read that IFM only increased in affectiveness with more sprays but the catch with IFM was the stink. With that in mind, I’ve yet to see ANYONE try a mega dose of A1. If you want I can test this out myself just so we can compare results!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/3 "2010-03-18T01:34:30Z")
Count me in too. I think I’ll stay with around 125-150 though 😃 ---
**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 2:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/4 "2010-03-18T02:16:43Z")
Geeeeeezzzzzz that seems like a lot … hope you don’t OD and get depressed, but I guess someone has to try it. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/5 "2010-03-18T02:28:19Z")
> [@reddog](#): > > Geeeeeezzzzzz that seems like a lot … hope you don’t OD and get depressed, but I guess someone has to try it. I’m probably gonna wear a good helping of something else with it. I have to say the idea seems kinda scary in a way but then again so does a lot of [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) ideas. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/6 "2010-03-18T02:44:51Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > I’m probably gonna wear a good helping of something else with it. I have to say the idea seems kinda scary in a way but then again so does a lot of pheromone ideas. As the old saying goes “nothing ventured, nothing gain!”😃 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/7 "2010-03-18T02:47:29Z")
I was reading the IFM page and it said that while it normally has a calming effect, higher doses created excitement (I assume in the good way) can anyone verify this from personal experience? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/8 "2010-03-18T06:21:17Z")
I used high doses of A1 many times and it didn’t do much but enhance female mood, if down, and defeat PMS. If you work up a sweat A1 will breakdown to alpha androstenol in 20 minutes or so, so you might get an ear full. If you want excitement, that’s totally up to you. It helps to keep an iPhone in jean pocket and scratch and reposition it from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 1:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/9 "2010-03-18T13:14:53Z")
I’m usually just sitting in the library and studying, so working up a sweat shouldn’t be an issue, thanks for the warning though gegogi. I’m happy to see I got a couple people to be crazy with me 🙂. I guess we can do 150mcg and see what effects we get from people. Before we do this though, K-train and Olfact, have you both tried it before at 50+? I just want to make sure you guys don’t get depressed from it at those doses because I wouldn’t want anything bad to happen at higher doses. ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 2:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/10 "2010-03-18T14:18:36Z")
In case of depressions… negative effects using A1 work your way up from low doses to higher ones… this has helped for me not to be affected by A1… Getting depressions from A1 is not that thing you really want … but i found out when i use it regularly and upp the dose from week to week you can minimize the unwanted effects or get none … I used A1 from 10mcg up to 1mg (jep no joke) 😮 and over a dosage of 150mcg i see no improvement … A1 is really magical stuff … especially when pared with other socials like TAK or TAC or the marvellous Meo-Est … I usually use A1 in dosages around 40 to 60mcg and it works just nice … heheh … love this stuff … Pago ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/11 "2010-03-18T14:44:55Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > I’m usually just sitting in the library and studying, so working up a sweat shouldn’t be an issue, thanks for the warning though gegogi. I’m happy to see I got a couple people to be crazy with me 🙂. I guess we can do 150mcg and see what effects we get from people. Before we do this though, K-train and Olfact, have you both tried it before at 50+? I just want to make sure you guys don’t get depressed from it at those doses because I wouldn’t want anything bad to happen at higher doses. I’ve worn 50mcgs of A1 on 2-3 occassions and the most it did was mellow me out, kinda like what Meo-EST does to me. Thankfully I’ve played sports almost all my life and I guess over the years I’ve built up an immunity to A1.😃 So I think 100mcgs + shouldn’t hurt me…but I’ll be wearing some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) just to be safe.😛 Also, thanks Pagodeiro for the advice. I have a question for you though, what effects from A1 do you see? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/12 "2010-03-18T14:45:28Z")
> [@reddog](#): > > Geeeeeezzzzzz that seems like a lot … hope you don’t OD and get depressed, but I guess someone has to try it. > [@scotties123](#): > > I’m usually just sitting in the library and studying, so working up a sweat shouldn’t be an issue, thanks for the warning though gegogi. I’m happy to see I got a couple people to be crazy with me 🙂. I guess we can do 150mcg and see what effects we get from people. Before we do this though, K-train and Olfact, have you both tried it before at 50+? I just want to make sure you guys don’t get depressed from it at those doses because I wouldn’t want anything bad to happen at higher doses. I’ve used 60 mcgs several times without any ill effects. I’ve never gone higher because I haven’t seen any reason to so far but lets see how this goes. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/13 "2010-03-18T15:06:01Z")
Sweet. I’ll give it a go tomorrow and see how it works out. I’ll do 150mcg. Hopefully I’ll be around enough people for it to be worth it. Fridays at the library tend to be kinda empty. ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/14 "2010-03-18T15:26:00Z")
Effects of A1 on me … uhh i felt really sad and thought everything in my life is bad .. and i have no options… and so on .. Fight those feelings immediately with strong coffee… it helps .. other effects on me … nada EFFECTS on women… you know all the thing when women are pms -ing .. they are sooo boring at this time of their month … but …but .. hey there is a magical cure for it …take a bit A1 and they are coming back to normal behaviour .. the even tend to hang around you much more because of the good feelings you give them .. in normal situations (no pms) it works like a charm and has some very attractive qualities here i recitate Gegogi.. it´s the friggin bees knees of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) … it helps you in nearly every social mix with women … Women really want to cuddle with you (i speak for several LTR´s i´ve been with) put it on after you´ve left the house going out .. or you will end up at the couch with your girl sticking on you like glue … puuuhhh in usual mixes i dont put on more than 40-60mcg that will be enough … as i´m wearing it mostly with other socials .. like P74 or P86 or P83 … or Meo Est .. thats for seduction … on work i combine it with TAK and TAC … Making it the main ingredient of a social mix i´d upp it to 100mcg or maybe if there´s smoking or other problematic circumstances 150mcg … Pago ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/15 "2010-03-18T19:10:03Z")
> [@Pagodeiro](#): > > Effects of A1 on me … uhh i felt really sad and thought everything in my life is bad .. and i have no options… and so on .. > Fight those feelings immediately with strong coffee… it helps .. > other effects on me … nada > > EFFECTS on women… > you know all the thing when women are pms -ing .. they are sooo boring at this time of their month … > but …but .. hey there is a magical cure for it …take a bit A1 and they are coming back to normal behaviour .. the even tend to hang around you much more because of the good feelings you give them .. > in normal situations (no pms) it works like a charm and has some very attractive qualities > here i recitate Gegogi.. it´s the friggin bees knees of pheromones … > it helps you in nearly every social mix with women … > Women really want to cuddle with you (i speak for several LTR´s i´ve been with) > put it on after you´ve left the house going out .. or you will end up at the couch with your girl sticking on you like glue … puuuhhh > > in usual mixes i dont put on more than 40-60mcg that will be enough … as i´m wearing it mostly with other socials .. like P74 or P86 or P83 … or Meo Est .. > thats for seduction … on work i combine it with TAK and TAC … > > Making it the main ingredient of a social mix i´d upp it to 100mcg or maybe if there´s smoking or other problematic circumstances 150mcg … > > Pago Thanks for the enlightment Pago! I remember on the IFM page it said that IFM was nicknamed “The Relationship Enhancer”. I’d say that’s about right.😃 Also, to the rest of the guys, are we going to report the testing in this thread? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/16 "2010-03-18T19:34:37Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Thanks for the enlightment Pago! > > I remember on the IFM page it said that IFM was nicknamed “The Relationship Enhancer”. I’d say that’s about right.😃 > > Also, to the rest of the guys, are we going to report the testing in this thread? Sounds good to me. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/17 "2010-03-18T20:02:58Z")
The optimal dosage of A1 is 15mcg to 50 mcgs anything more then that and your risking causing depression in you and other males around you. Now it may not seem like your classic depression in the sense that we all think about it. Sometimes it just shows itself as you becomeing withdrawn or distancing. Some people do get the classic type of depression. It doesnt happen to everyone and you can avoid it more by using A1 to the back of the neck or head so your not inhaling it constantly. It will convert slower in these application points as well. Just remember you are using pheromones to effect those around you. More is not better its just more. Once someone is effected and their neurotransmitters start firing more is not going to make them respond faster or more frequantly. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/18 "2010-03-18T20:34:40Z")
I’d be up for testing it like this. On my next order I’ll have to get some empty togos with the scent package in it and try to create the dilution for myself. I know that a single drop is approximately 40-45 mcg and that’s about what I use on the regular. I’ve done 2 with good response still. No noticeable depression aspects, but I’ve been wearing it a lot lately with strongly attractive putatives and products that seem to give me positive self effects. I’d definitely be up for testing in the 150-200 range tho. No negative effects noted at 2 drops (80-90mcg) but I do drop to my wrist and spread between wrists and throat, so the in my face content isn’t very high. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/19 "2010-03-18T20:45:45Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > The optimal dosage of A1 is 15mcg to 50 mcgs anything more then that and your risking causing depression in you and other males around you. > > Now it may not seem like your classic depression in the sense that we all think about it. Sometimes it just shows itself as you becomeing withdrawn or distancing. Some people do get the classic type of depression. It doesnt happen to everyone and you can avoid it more by using A1 to the back of the neck or head so your not inhaling it constantly. It will convert slower in these application points as well. > > Just remember you are using pheromones to effect those around you. More is not better its just more. Once someone is effected and their neurotransmitters start firing more is not going to make them respond faster or more frequantly. > > Tisha Thanks Tisha, I’ll keep this in mind. I’ll bring some to-go IS and throw it on if I notice negative reactions in guys around me, or in myself. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100/20 "2010-03-18T23:42:28Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > The optimal dosage of A1 is 15mcg to 50 mcgs anything more then that and your risking causing depression in you and other males around you. > > Now it may not seem like your classic depression in the sense that we all think about it. Sometimes it just shows itself as you becomeing **withdrawn or distancing**. Some people do get the classic type of depression. It doesnt happen to everyone and you can avoid it more by using A1 to the back of the neck or head so your not inhaling it constantly. It will convert slower in these application points as well. > > Just remember you are using pheromones to effect those around you. More is not better its just more. Once someone is effected and their neurotransmitters start firing more is not going to make them respond faster or more frequantly. > > Tisha I’ve actually felt that! I was on a date with this girl with whom I’d talked to for some time but for some reason on that date I felt withdrawn and a little anit-social. I actually had to _force_ myself to talk more which was strange because I was also wearing MX336 which makes me the king of convos.😛 At the time I didn’t really attribute it to A1 because when I think depression I think “aww shit my life fucking sucks, make it stop”. But looking back I had applied 2 sprays of A1 (50mcgs total) so I guess I do get mellowed out. Strangely, I’ve worn 50mcgs recently and it didn’t do anything to me.😕 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/high-doses-of-a1/37100.md?page=2)