# Himeros's Place **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [June 10, 2013, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266 "2013-06-10T15:56:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/81 "2014-02-10T20:52:28Z")
> [@Himeros](#): > > Couple more things I wanna add to the previous post: > > - After adding the P83, literaly everything I did was an insult to her. When I looked in the direction of other girls, she told me I should stop checking them out. I wasn’t checking out other girls at all; I was just observing and reacting to the things that were happening around me in - IMHO - a very normal way. Once I looked to the left over my shoulder and the girl behind the bar was looking in my direction - I caught her eye. Indian gril told me ‘Why is she looking at you that way? Do you know her?’. Looking back on it, it seems like P83 triggered some jealous reactions in her. Reminds me of some reports written recently by lwatkins in his journal. P83 made his wife feel insecure; as in she started to think he was cheating on her. For me the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) self effects are horrible, if I don’t feel confident and am wearing P83 I feel like an emotional mess. Also now I only use P83 when I want to ramp up attraction when it is already present. > [@Himeros](#): > > - I think P75 could be the reason other people were checking me out, adding to her jealous feelings. Why? P75 always gets me noticed. When I wear it solo to the supermarket, I can see the security guy checking me out. In bars, people notice when I enter the room. This putative adds presence to every mix. > - Not only do other people notice me, I also notice other people more easily. I feel like P75 puts you in this hunter-gatherer mindset; always observing what is happening around you. This makes sense, cause previously I observed it changes the way my face looks. Facial muscles seem to relax, nose starts twitching, and my eye contact with people becomes intense (too intense when I go higher than 2,5 mcg). In other words: my face starts looking like the face of a predator. P75 = killer instinct. Other people also reported that the people around them said their face looked more masculine and aggressive. > - Because P75 makes such a big impact on your body language - not only your face changes but also your overall body language - other people will perceive you as aloof and uncaring. In the attraction phase this is good. Usually, to get decent rapport with people, you need to mirror body language (not only the bigger gestures, but when you’re really in the zone with someone also your breathing and talking pattern start to synchronise). With P75 on this becomes nearly impossible, unless you constantly try so steer your body language. But I feel P75 gets under your skin, and makes you alpha without even trying. Subtle body language like your facial muscles is very hard to steer conciously. This probably resulted in Indian girl perceiving me as a coldhearted bastard. The alpha body language makes decent rapport harder to achieve. Everything you wrote, can totally relate to it, gets you noticed, facial changes, the best realistic description of P75 so far. IMO the best buffer for it is P96. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/82 "2014-02-10T23:17:34Z")
> [@still18](#): > > For me the P83 self effects are horrible, if I don’t feel confident and am wearing P83 I feel like an emotional mess. Also now I only use P83 when I want to ramp up attraction when it is already present. > > Everything you wrote, can totally relate to it, gets you noticed, facial changes, the best realistic description of P75 so far. IMO the best buffer for it is P96. Personally haven’t experienced those self effects from P83 yet. I’ve only used it to ramp up attraction mixes while going out so far. In fact I haven’t felt any self-effects from this one. Not solo, not in mixes. I’ve seen it working on others, but it doesn’t seem to effect my mood/emotional state at all. My inner game is pretty solid right now, not a lot can throw me off balance. P96 a buffer for [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), yeah I can see what you mean. At least body language wise. I actually put the word ‘baby’ in my P96 notes today. Maybe it’s a mone newborns secrete. P96 is adorable, vulnerable, something you wanna protect. It’s pure, it’s genuine - hence the crushy vibes. P75 is the exact opposite - the predator you wanna run away from. Think I’ll do a test run upcoming weeks to see if I can buffer the P75 with P96. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2014, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/83 "2014-02-12T18:45:59Z")
**Mix:** 2 sprays Ammo SE 25 mcg P96 Location: the office Yep, any kind of light balanced product with some -none in it plus the P96 makes you mysteriously attractive to early 20s girls. Two blondies at work today (let’s call them Elle and Esse) were asking a lot of personal questions. They’ve been exposed to multiple of my phero experiments. Don’t get much from them when I wear A314, besides respect and intimidation if I don’t initiate. They’re much more responsive to light Ammo mixes or a bit of P75. Elle has been exposed to Ammo + P96 a couple of times now. The first time it hit her like a freight train. The attraction was making her so nervous she couldn’t hide it. Face flush, acting all girly and asking stupid questions to get my attention. She also always goes to the toilet and comes back with her hair changed when she sits next to me. Also saw the ‘baby eyes’ again today (P96). We had 5+ seconds eye contact without saying a word, and it didn’t feel awkward at all. Good stuff 🙂 Shit everybody’s eyes look so damn beautiful! I see the most dramatic effects in grils with lighter eye colours. Normally I’m a bigger fan of dark eyes, as I find light eyes slightly cold and distant. With P96 I really dig blue/grey eyed girls. Esse seems allergic to A314. She avoids me like the plague and doesn’t say a thing. With Ammo or P75 she becomes a motormouth and wants to know all about me. Asked her if she was interviewing me today, she smiled all embarrassed 😃 **Mix:** ~ residu from previous mix, 6 hours after application A314 1 drop P96 25 mcg P74 12,5 mcg IS 2 sprays Coffee date with the ex. Good combo to wear around her. No bitchiness, no shit tests. Easy rapport. Really comforting. She wasn’t afraid to be vulnerable around me. Told me about some stuff she is struggling with. Also said I looked good and healthy. Probably the P96 and the IS. She was mirroring my body language like she always did back in the days. Preening, putting her chin on the top of her fist to display her pretty face. Inviting me to join her to parties. If I didn’t know any better I’d say she’s still into me. Wanted to add some TUTH but didn’t get the chance as she had to leave, 2 hours went by so fast. She always gets pissed when I wear androstenone around her. Think this mix would’ve moderated it all nicely. She invited herself to crash at my place next month because she’s attending this event in my city. Could be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2014, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/84 "2014-02-15T15:29:02Z")
**Mix:** Ammo 2 sprays IShine 2 sprays P75 2,5 mcg P74 25 mcg Later added: 50 mcg P83 over time Location: bar with live music, around friends Good mix. Have been wondering how P75 would perform around longtime friends. This mix was alpha but not too intimidating like A314. Next time I’ll use less P74 and see what reactions I get. Guys gave me space. No buddy buddy touching. Some of them had difficulties with maintaining eye contract; saw a bit of fear in their eyes, but nothing too serious. Respect hits, apologetic behaviour, buying me drinks and not wanting me to pay them back. No competitive behaviour or shit testing from alpha guys. When I talked to some of their gf’s they left the conversation and left me with their girl. Same girl that responded well to the P83 a couple of weeks ago was hit hard again by my mone cloud. She is super sensitive to all mones I have been wearing around her. She has ADD, not sure if that has anything to do with it. Very extroverted, not very capable of hiding what she is feeling. She’s becoming one of my favourite test subjects for new mixes hehe. Not too much obvious flirting this time - her bf was around - but she was very interested in me and I spent a good deal of the night talking to her. At some point I was sitting on a three person couch with her in the middle, her boyfriend on the other side next to her. The conversation and her bodylanguage was entirely focused on me, almost started to feel guilty. P83 makes her a motor-mouth, telling me stories she would probably not tell too many other people. A lot of sex in the conversation. For example she told how she would sleep around a lot when she was single, and also used to cheat a lot on her exes 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/85 "2014-02-18T17:47:21Z")
**Short updates:** - Ex has been texting me and sending me private messages on Facebook after our meet up with A314 and P96. She obviously enjoyed our little bonding moment. She’s been inviting me to join her to parties and drinks, and being eager to help me with some job related things. Think she still sees some potential in me - we ended on good terms. She’s mad cute but I don’t have any emotional feelings towards her anymore. I intend to keep it that way - but shit she’s been taking care of her body tremendously lately. She wants to crash at my place next month and I think I’m gonna try some TAC + TUTH + P83 on her and see where it takes me muhahaha 😃 - Wore P75 + IShine a couple of times at work. Got a lot of bro-hits. Guys being super respectful and treating me like a stud. They all wanted to talk about girls haha. This combo also works well on sorrority girls. One girl (21, HB6) was exposed to it for 4 straight hours. I was playing it cool and friendly and she was super flirty with me. A lot of hairplay, asking where I live, what parties I attend, fishing for compliments, making sexual innuendo’s while trying to keep up appearences as a good girl, winks, talking in her sexy voice… you get the picture, she was qualifying herself to me and trying to figure me out. I initiated kino because that’s what I do with P75, even at work. She responded well kinoed me back and gave me some horny up and down looks. While in the elevator with some other people on the way out she told me she really enjoyed my company. - Think another girl (HB7, 24, blonde) at work that has been exposed to A314 + P96 + P74 has a little crush on me. She has the nerdy secretary look going on. Her face is not that pretty, but I can tell she works out a lot; her body is tight. Glasses, high heels, nail polish… I like. She’s been staring a lot at me. Today I was wearing A314 + IShine at work, and this 19 year old girl with double Ds (HB8,5) was treating me like I was her older brother. Talking about her relationship, asking me for advice… had a nice personal conversation with her and I told her some intimate stuff about myself. All the while nerdy girl and sorrority girl were overhearing our conversation. Unusual amounts of hairplay from all the girls around me today. A314 does this sometimes. - A senior manager (mid 40s) that wants to hire the company I work for came to the office with his team. My project manager (late 20s) asked me to join him to the meeting. Purpose was to get to know each other, and to discuss the details of our cooperation. The manager was suited up, big, bald - you get it. An intimidating status vibe, although he was quite friendly. I was wearing A314 + IS plus a nice shirt that day. During the meeting he was constantly directing his story and attention towards me instead of my PM. After the meeting he wanted to know more about me, asked me what I studied etc. Respect hits from senior people while wearing A314 are awesome. - 2 sprays [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) + 2,5 mcg P75 around friends while going out. Instant Popularity. My female friends were taken aback by my high energy presence. I was dominating the conversations. Female friends were digging it, ex gf included; beta friend of mine looked castrated and was throwing respect hits in my direction. Alpha friends were super respectful and in awe too. Only my best alpha buddy - a guy I consider my equal - was touchy. A lot of looks from the barmaids and the girls sitting around us. DIHL galore. Later in the club I was opening big groups of girls without approach anxiety and entertaining them with success. These were late teens/early 20s girls mostly. Alpha guys wanted to bond and didn’t want me to leave early. ---
**Author:** ![Jonas\_finn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jonas_finn/32/1298_2.png) [@Jonas\_finn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonas_finn)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/86 "2014-02-18T18:48:43Z")
> [@Himeros](#): > > **Short updates:** I think I’m gonna try some TAC + TUTH + P83 on her and see where it takes muhahaha 😃 What i have read about that mix you going to have some animalistic fun 😃 Don’t forget to report how it went 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/87 "2014-02-26T19:30:51Z")
**Mix:** Mx297 2 sprays P75 2,5 mcg Later added: 2 sprays TUTH + 40 mcg P83 Location: house party The party was too low energy with a lot of seated down people to effectively vibe with [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/)’s qualities. Had to put in more effort to engage people than usual with MX297 in the mix. Still I found people were gravitating towards me; especially the guys. Example: when I started playing a card game at the head of the table, all the guys wanted to join in. Blonde target (24, HB8) was there too. She was without her wing girl this time and looked nervous. She tried to get my attention but I ignored her. Think I showed her my hand one too many times (as in: displaying interest in her) and she’s been enjoying the attention. At the same time she can also be very superficial and just use guys’ attention as en ego boost. Yes she’s the typical party girl. Confident from the outside, but insecure and looking for a real connection from the inside. Buddy of mine did me a great service without realizing himself. He asked me how things have been going with my Indian hook-up right in front of party girl. After adding 1 spray TUTH and 20 mcg P83 I noticed some guys accross the room were talking about me. Turns out one of them was gay, and they were talking about how he would totally do me… He explicitly told his buddies he would do me a couple of more times that evening. Not right in front of me, but he made sure it was loud enough for me to hear it. Kinda creepy, but I guess he was sexually frustrated. The host of the house party actually came to apologize to me for the rude behaviour of his guest. Well sometimes you get hits without wanting them I guess… part of the learning experience. Probably the TUTH + P83 put sex on the minds of the guys and made them want to talk about it. The dad of the party host showed up pretty late and tipsy and he wanted to know all about me. Where I was from, what I was doing, if he maybe knew my dad. MX297 effects probably. I never met this guy, but he told me a long story about how he used to project his own failed ambitions on his son and how he felt guilty for that sometimes. It was a nice conversation. After finishing the conversation he went straight to bed and didn’t talk to any other people. After adding the last spray of TUTH and 20 mcg P83 I got ‘OHH you smell **delicious** ’ from the gf of my best buddy (23, blonde). She was standing really close and almost burried her nose in my neck. Didn’t see any negative reactions - think the MX297 and P75 buffer the none quite effectively. Gf of the party host seemed annoyed as she threw a slightly mocking remark in my direction, but I didn’t think much of it. Probably just because I was in a corner outside the group having some serious talk with a buddy of mine. She’s the mother hen type; very protective of the group dynamics. Also: from previous testing I know she dislikes TUTH, so maybe that’s it. ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_Dillon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/roy_dillon/32/1380_2.png) [@Roy\_Dillon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Roy_Dillon)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/88 "2014-03-05T23:09:18Z")
You always have great observations, amazing details! Have u hosted your cute, hard bodied ex-gf overnight yet? Cant wait to hear how that lil visit goes 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/89 "2014-03-06T23:02:19Z")
> [@Roy\_Dillon](#): > > You always have great observations, amazing details! Have u hosted your cute, hard bodied ex-gf overnight yet? Cant wait to hear how that lil visit goes 😉 Not yet, but she has been texting me a lot and even called me a couple of times for my advice as she tought she didn’t have anyone to talk to that knows her so well. We hadn’t called since our break-up 1,5 years ago, so this definitely is special. She’s in trouble when she gets near my bed 😉 **Mix** 3 sprays Ammo Reapplied later: 1-2 shots TUTH + 20-50 mcg P83 Location: raunchy party environment with a lot of alcohol involved Last weekend I partied 3 days in a row at a local festival. First day I tried something more subtle with [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) and P75, but it didn’t work. Parties were mostly outside that day, so diffusion was probably not to good either. Also: beer throwing is not good for your mones 😉 So I decided to go with a basic Ammo mix the next day, and add TUTH and P83 when the parties would move inside. The mix hit like a handgrenade! 😮 Insane amount of stares, and older more experienced women (35 yrs +) weren’t hiding their horniness around me and grabbed my ass multiple times. These were unwanted hits - I like younger girls. If older men did this to younger girls they’d probably be considered perverts. It did provide me with some social proof though, and after some time the younger girls were starting to feel very comfortable around me too. A friend of a friend of mine - mid 20s brunette and pretty hot - was eye fucking me from a distance. I had a small chat with her and after 10 minutes or so I took her hand and started to dance with her. Minutes later I pulled her aside and went for the kiss. Very direct game is usually not my style, but it worked really well in this raunchy environment. Her kisses where animalistic and I started pulling her hair and basically undressing her right there in the bar. Took her outside to a park - logistics were a btich - and escalated as much as was sane in winter weather. She couldnt believe she never met me before, as we have some mutual friends. I could tell she was super turned on as she moaned like crazy when I touched her down there. Think her nails are still in my neck hehehe. Also got some good rapport in, but sexual tension was very high. We’re texting now and I plan to take her on a date upcoming weeks. This mix is probably totally inappropriate at most other parties - but my lesson learned: sometimes a basic mix with some androstenone and P83 is all you need. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/90 "2014-03-09T17:03:29Z")
**Mix:** P75 2,5 mcg - neck front IShine 2 sprays - left + right side of the neck Location: the office I found this to be a very simple but effective work mix. It gets me a lot of focus and energy - boosting my producivity - while at the same time being very attractive. And without androstenone in the mix - so no inappropriate horndog vibe. Usually I wear A314 at work. I get a lot of respect and appreciation from my superioirs, but the problem is my co-workers leave me be. They’re all in the 19-25 range mostly, and A314 is just too serious for them. Paired with some [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) and P96 it was better already, but still A314 is just not young and sexy enough for most girls there I think. I have to open them all the time and have no trouble keeping up the conversation after that. P75 + IShine is way different. Guys and girls are much more talkative and flirty. Girls I had seen a couple times but I didn’t know the name of called on me during breaks, asking intrigued questions and such - apparently they have their ways to find out about my name. As always with P75: looks, looks, looks! People were checking me out massively. IShine probably added some ‘look at me!’ effects aswell. When I caught girls looking they looked away - like ‘shit he caught me!’. Also: people respecting my space. When I get close, people always say sorry for being in my way - unnecessary apologetic behaviour. Yet girls do seem to WANT to be close, and feel comfortable being there. New with P75: spontaneous kino, like with P83. A bit contradictive to my previous point, but these are the results I’m getting. I was sitting in my chair still waking up a bit in the morning and this super hot darkhair darkeyed girl (think Balkan - Mediterranean mixed with Eastern-European blood; HB9 easily in my book) - approaches me from the side - I was looking in her direction by coincidence - and touches me on my shoulder. While flashing her eyebrows she asked me how I was doing and continued to walk to her desk. I only talked to her once before - like 3 months ago. She is super hot and very good at bantering and shit testing. Most guys are intimidated by her. Think she likes the strong masculine presence from P75. Next day I saw on the schedule this hot babe was sitting next to me that day - but shit I wasn’t wearing any P75! I wore A314 + IShine. She still liked it, and we had a really flirty conversation during the entire shift. She engaged me all the time - usually people don’t do this with A314. Strong eye contract too, invading my space, asking personal questions. Making innuendo’s about costumes she likes to wear. Ofcourse I bantered along and shit tested her too. I was thinking about asking her number right there on the spot - but that’s kind of inappropriate at work I think. Maybe next time. Still wanna see how she responds to P75 when I’m near her longer. This is a trend I have been observing: confident sexually aggressive ladies like P75. Strangely enough, Asian girls seem to like it too.. hmmm. P75 also has a ‘follow me’ leaderlike effect. But more follow me because I’m a cool guy, than follow me because I’m your know-it-all boss like with A314. A guy at work - he’s straight - was latching on to me and followed me with everything I was doing. During lunch break he followed me outside without me inviting him - I was just being friendly. Nerdy secretary girl from one of my previous posts was going out of her way to talk to me too with P75. Also I noticed some new self-effects: bloodflow to my legs and my crotch seem to increase - contrary to TAC. Made me sweat a bit - and made me crazy horny. I also love what P75 does to my face and voice. My young face looks more masculine and my voice sounds super smoooth and deep. I know I said some bad things about P75 in the past, but I really like this juice 🙂 I makes me feel very masculine and fertile. Together with androstenone while going out it sometimes seems a bit much for younger Western-European blonde girls. Have to test more. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/91 "2014-03-09T17:04:05Z")
**Mix:** P75 2,5 mcg Ammo 2 sprays IShine 2 sprays P74 12,5 mcg Later added 40 mcg P83. Joined my buddy and his gf for a casual drink in a bar. I was under the impression there were gonna be more girls around, but it was only the two of them. Had I known this, I woulve gone with something lighter. I had supreme confidence and masculine presence. I was being checked out by a lot of people. It was a pretty cosy place, great for diffusion. GF was awestruck by me. This is a great cocky funny mix, and I had to be careful not to act up too much. My buddy gave me massive respect hits and I was winning every discussion we had. After I told a little story, his GF even said ‘why can’t you be more like him (me!) sometimes’ to my bro! 😮 Not good… She continued to give him more shit. Helped my buddy out by siding with him and throwing some respect in his direction. He’s a shy guy and this is his first gf ever. I felt bad his gf was giving him shit because of my presence. Went to see some live music and got checked out by 3 hot cougars. Take note I never get hits from older women without mones, I look way to young. P75 + Ammo gave me some nice masculine presence. One of them was rubbing her but to my leg - constantly making physical contact. She did it on purpose, as she moved to stand right in front of me. I didn’t move an inch, but was enjoying the rub. P83? Hit. ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/92 "2014-03-10T15:29:14Z")
If she is rubbing her butt on your leg all by herself, you are in Bro..massive hit. Its a little less than being boobed or if she rubs her culie on you because to do those she has to be basically facing you. It cant really be passed off as an accident. To confirm the hit, gently lean in and increase the pressure between your leg and her. If she stays there you are good to go. Another way to confirm is to separate the contact but stay close. If she “re-engages” again, good to go. Then you gotta find a way to talk to her. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/93 "2014-03-10T15:52:59Z")
I think you’re right. It happened right after I applied the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). I didn’t move an inch, and she still kept doing it. It was crowded, but not so crowded for her to stand this close. If it was a dancefloor environment and with a younger girl I probably wouldn’t have hesitated and just started grinding her. This was just a bit odd - she was mid 40s I think, but looked very fit still. Like I said - I never get attention from older women without mones. Maybe next time I’ll try my luck 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/94 "2014-03-10T16:09:36Z")
Next time you go to Cougertown, Try [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) 5mcg or higher, P83 20mcg or higher, and Tuth or IJ . Then hold on for dear life…😮 ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/95 "2014-03-12T15:44:30Z")
**Short updates:** - A suit + 2 drops A314 + 2 more applied later during the day + some IShine = mature women (late 20s and older) calling on me telling me how good and fancy I look today, even before I see them. Also got a couple of backwards - over the shoulder looks as I passed them by - checking out my ass. I caught them looking 🆒 A pregnant girl in her early 30s at work was DIHL -ing me like crazy. She looked so zoned out hahaha. Younger girls where hairflipping a lot and intimidated. Also got a DIHL from a guy in the men’s room - weird. At 4 drops I felt like the smoothest dude on the planet - I usually don’t wear this much A314. Think I even intimidated myself a bit in the beginning - I was feeling pretty warm. - Decided to go with an attraction mix to work today, so I went with 2,5 mcg P75 and 2 sprays op Ammo SE. I was sitting in a rather isolated part of the office with 3 girls in a row on my right. The computer of the girl right next to me (chubby and unattractive) wasn’t working so I fixed it for her. She said ‘ohh it’s so great to have a man around who can fix things. Real men can fix things’ and smiled at me. During the entire shift she kept trying to get my attention. She was working on a puzzle and she kept asking me to help her. ‘You’re so smart Himeros, you should help me’. She did this twice. I responded a bit cool - P75 and I was focusing on my work - but was willing to help anyway. She noticed I was a bit aloof and said ‘hey I’m giving you a compliment!’. Also she all of a sudden she started to ask me what my horoscope was, and read a couple of my ‘personalized’ horoscopes for me. When a girl startes going the spiritual route I know what time it is… - The second girl in the row (HB6, brunette) responded very well to P75 a couple weeks ago too, this day was no exception. Eye browflashes everytime I looked at her. The third girl (HB8, blonde) I had never spoken to, but she was staring and DIHL -ing all the time. Also constantly stretching herself in her chair (lordosis) while looking at me. Eye browflashes and long eye contact too. I guess the fan above us helped with diffusion, but it wasn’t that warm. - All of a sudden out of nowhere the three of them started to talk about dicks (the actual gentleman’s equipment) and about - I don’t know how to translate this properly - ‘being ripped apart by a guy’. ‘Ahh girls we shouldn’t bother Himeros with this. Yeah sometimes we like to talk about this Himeros’. Wink wink. Whut? Since when is it appropriate to talk about animalistic sex at work? P75? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/96 "2014-03-17T21:41:45Z")
**Mix:** A314 1 drop (applied 3 hours before the rest) IH 2 sprays IS 2 sprays TUTH 1 spray [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) 12,5 mcg Later added: more TUTH and P83 Location: 1-on-1 date in (coffee)-bars mostly Went on a date with a girl I hooked up with 2 weeks ago - wearing a basic TUTH + P83 mix in a raunchy disinhibited environment. My goal was to re-establish attraction and display a wider variety of qualities. Also I just wanted to get to know the girl a little better and see if I could get some nice rapport in. Still need to digest the date a bit. We met up in the late afternoon for some coffee. She showed up wearing leather dominatrix style heels and a cute black top - exposing her neck and arms nicely. Apparently she was a gothic in her teenage years - kinky. Conversation went really smooth - no awkward silences. Stayed in the coffee bar for 2 hours till it closed, after that we both were still enjoying eachother’s company and ended up talking for another 4 hours over drinks and dinner and while walking through the park. Things that went well: a lot of comfort and deep rapport. Drawback was that things were sometimes a bit too serious imho. Not a very playful or flirty vibe, even though I tried to steer it in that direction. Wanted to top up the IShine but I didn’t have it in a to-go and randomly pulling out a big blue bottle from my bag would’ve been a bit suspicious.. Reminder to myself: pour some IShine in one of my empty to-go’s. I tried to sex up the mix over the night with 2 extra sprays of TUTH and up to 60 mcg P83 (topped up with 20 mcg 3 times). While I saw the attraction in her eyes (dilated pupils) she didn’t become flirty or touchy. Two weeks ago she was super horny and flirty around me, I think now was her period. She sometimes steered the conversation too much towards some issues she’s having (college drop-out, trying to get her life together etc.) - usually not too good for attraction. Zero kino from her side (I initiated playful kino a couple of times but she didn’t respond, not even after the introduction of P83); also sometimes she had trouble looking me in the eye. Maybe she was a bit shy or nervous, maybe my signature was too intimidating. She told me she hadn’t been on a date in a looooong time, so maybe that’s why she was nervous. Tried to find a moment where I could escalate into kissing, but I didn’t find the right moment. Her body language was too closed most of the time. Didn’t want to push it. Mones were definitely working. The two girls behind the counter were openly flirting with me (unfortunately my date was not standing next to me at that moment). Random people were engaging me in conversation a couple of times in a bar while my date was standing/sitting right next to me, so I managed to show my social side. Got a lot of looks from people in general. Definitely felt the high status vibe. Good thing was she laughed a lot about my silly jokes. Managed to DHV, qualification didn’t succeed 100%, but decent enough. I definitely succeeded in displaying a wider, more reliable side of me (A314) - but I’m not sure if I re-established attraction. Took the evening train and she walked me to the station. I hate kissing at the end of the date -too forced and awkward - so I didn’t go for it. Gave her a hug and told her I’d be around town next weekend. While on the train I received a text from her saying she enjoyed our date, and that she wanted to kiss me at the station - but that she felt a bit ‘in the open’ (not a fan of PDA apparently). So she definitely was attracted, but was hiding it the entire date.. Hmmmz. Don’t know what to think. Didn’t feel a spark, but she has potential. We have a lot of things in common - personality and hobby wise. Also some mutual friends. Will probably take her on another date and see if I can escalate more. Thoughts on the mix I used: really good for bonding and comfort, but lacking in sexual pull. A314 sometimes makes me too relaxed and satisfied with the situation. I lose my playfulness and sex drive a bit. On the other hand: this is my first try with a fallout mix around a specific target. I know repeated exposure is key, so I will go with a similar mix next time and see where it takes me. Just ordered some more fallout mones: P74, IH, P96 and also A314 spray (hits harder). ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/97 "2014-03-21T19:33:27Z")
**Mix:** A314 1 drop P96 ~35 mcg Something unusual happened today. I managed to buffer A314 for the first time ever. Usually even at 1 drop I can always feel A314’s presence in the mix. Today not so much. My finger slipped and I applied a bit too much P96. I intended to go with 25 mcg. Result was I felt very… vulnerable and compassionate. I didn’t feel the usual drill sergeant A314 effects at all. Confidence was lacking, alpha posturing was not present. I felt a bit beta. My voice was still authorative though, but my usual drive to perform at work was lacking. If people gave me shit on the phone, I was way to understanding. Hmm maybe my mind was already celebrating the weekend.. Today a very beta guy was sitting next to me. He was engaing and was chatting me up and even giving me advice and correcting my work. He meant well, but it felt weird, not used to it anymore. I genuinly appreciate feedback, and the things he said were actually useful, but I felt a bit weird being corrected by this guy. Maybe I’m overthing stuff… Next time I’m gonna try wearing higher A314 and see how I can balance this mix a bit more. I want the A314 selfies, and the P96 effects on others. Beautifying effects and manga eyes were clearly visible again today (P96). ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/98 "2014-03-23T23:26:28Z")
I think the gentle nature of P96 favors simplicity: one drop 314 or 1-2 sprays IG. Still masculine. Any tiny pinch of -eNone is possible. This is a man’s mix for women. I loathe and avoid social contact with men on this one. It has some [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) tendencies. I keep guys out of my mone cloud on the stuff. I make a concerted effort to physically move away from men in public and toward the girls. It bonds to anything like crazy glue. Too many heavy mones hurt the tender romantic vibe. Treat it like P74 or 83; dose wise, combo wise. I think that paradigm fits. Supercharged P74 I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/99 "2014-03-24T17:52:17Z")
**Mix:** A314 1 drop (applied 3 hours before the rest) P96 25 mcg P74 12,5 mcg TUTH 2 sprays (1 under a loose shirt; 1 on front of the neck) IShine 2 sprays Later added: [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 20 mcg Location: chilling at my date’s place Very succesful night overall! A bit early to say, but I think fallout is starting to kick in. Still more exposures needed ofcourse. Decided to switch IH for P96 this time in my fallout mix, as suggested by THE GHOST over [here](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/advice-needed-on-signature-switch/61339). I think I like this mix better. IH has more deep conversation qualities - made my date talk a bit too much about serious topics the previous time. P96 is more romantic bonding in a non-verbal way. I also added an extra spray of TUTH under my shirt to increase sexual tension. Worked very well. A314 + TUTH isn’t a young man’s mix. When wearing this at work young people avoid me like the plague and 30+ women DIHL me. P96 and P74 buffered it perfectly - no negative reactions whatsoever, while getting the great selfies from A314 (confidence) and TUTH (sex drive). P96 is romance juice, no doubt. When I arrived at her place (her suggestion) she lighted up and was very cheery - very cute. Laughing at my jokes (A314 compliance) all the time. Still a bit shy to make eye contact (A314 + TUTH intimidation) - but whenever she looked me in the eyes I could see massive attraction - pupils like marbles. We started drinking some wine and watching a series I had brought with me. She snuggled up to me without me putting in any effort. We were sitting on a classic french sofa in red velvet - very sexy couch I should say. At one point she felt I wasn’t escalating enough apparently - she grabbed my arm and put it around her. From there on it was easy to escalate further. A very romantic kissing session ensued. Sexual tension was very high, but still her kisses were very tender and sweet this time. Not pure lust as the previous time. P96 + P74 at work I think. Don’t get me wrong - she was very turned on by the 2 sprays TUTH in the mix - but getting D wasn’t the first thing on her agenda. We were just gently exploring eachother’s bodies. Felt very natural and yes - romantic. In between kisses she was looking down all the time (massive sign of attraction) and had a cheesy lovey dovey grinn on her face. This wasn’t about sex, this was about physical romantic bonding. Ofcourse me being a man tried to escalate things further. If a woman wants you to stop she’ll tell you is my motto when it comes to situations like this. Grabbed her hand and led her to her bedroom. Ended up with LMR when I wanted to take off her pants. She just said ‘no’ but continued to kiss and cuddle intensely. Maybe I overstimulated her with the TUTH on the high end plus the P83. She climbed on top of me and started to dry fuck me, her face burried in my neck were all the mones were. She licked it all up. I could feel she was wet through her stockings. Bonded more in between our make-out sessions. Just hanging around eachother half-naked and feeling very comfortable. Lots of intimate gazing (P96). She also steered a lot of the conversation towards things we had in common (P74?). She wanted me to stay the night as I was about to miss the last train (plausible deniability, something women need - ‘it just happened’). Ended up sleeping in her tiny bed together. I scrubbed off my mix before going to bed, because I was worried it was gonna get smelly. Applied 10 mcg TAC before joining her in her bed. We dozed off nicely. Next morning we woke up in a spooning position. She started rubbing her behind to my equipment. I had to get the early train so there was no time for more. My theory: she just didn’t want to give it away this early. Fair enough. I’ll get her next time 😃 😛 After a short breakfast I wanted to give her a hug + peck on the cheeks and leave, but she pulled me in for a short make-out session followed by a very lovey dovey smile. PS one more thing I shouldn’t fail to mention: her cat was obsessed with me! Staring at me, walking all over me, sniffing my wrists (A314 residu) and other apllication points. Coming very close to my face. My date told me she usually doesn’t act like this. ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266/100 "2014-03-24T17:59:32Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > I think the gentle nature of P96 favors simplicity: one drop 314 or 1-2 sprays IG. Still masculine. Any tiny pinch of -eNone is possible. This is a man’s mix for women. I loathe and avoid social contact with men on this one. It has some P74 tendencies. I keep guys out of my mone cloud on the stuff. I make a concerted effort to physically move away from men in public and toward the girls. It bonds to anything like crazy glue. Too many heavy mones hurt the tender romantic vibe. Treat it like P74 or 83; dose wise, combo wise. I think that paradigm fits. Supercharged P74 I’d say. A314 + eNone + P96 and P74 was very good - tried it this weekend. I even added IShine and [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) - maybe my mix was too complicated; can always simplify it later. Agree with the P74 similarities. THE GHOST called it betanol on steroids in another topic. Today my big bottles of P74 and P96 arrived (7,5 mcg both) - so I’ll be able to test and compare them more upcoming weeks. Should be fun, especially now that I have a specific target to test these crushy mones on. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266.md?page=4) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/himeross-place/59266.md?page=6)