# Hits, a couple Q's, and more HITS!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 17, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816 "2010-09-17T04:32:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816/1 "2010-09-17T04:32:27Z")
**HIT 1-** Went to the bank to get a loan to buy a car had on on my work mix minus the IH… everything went good and this one particular cashier seemed to take a liking to me…fast-forward to the next day there was a problem with the deposit of the banks own money into my account so before I went out to eat stopped in to see what the deal was and this same cashier totally avoided me, never even noticing me until I talked to her. I had on A314 2 drops, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 3 sprays,1 spray TUTH, IO 2x 1 spray, and Shine2x 1 spray. Pretty sure the more sexual vibe I was putting off made her react differently. This was not my intention, but was going out after so thought what the hell. She was/is feeling me and would guess she’s 35-40… **That brings me to a question if your around the same group of people in the same setting on two separate occasions with two different phero sigs does that matter?** I mean one day I come in all lets get me some money and the next day was putting off the sexual vibe does that mess with people since it was back to back days? **Hit 2,3,and 4-** Was at a bar with maybe 10 people in it wearing listed above mix. Cute bartender, mean old crabby ass lady, and some guys I know to varying degrees. The mean lady just bitches and bitches about everything from whats on the tv, to the music, to men. Just about whatever she can. I started off sitting about 30 ft from this lady and went outside to smoke, but when I got back my seat was taken(even though my beer/cell/wallet were sitting there) because nobody can stand sitting by this lady for too long. Once I sat down it was like a cat got her tongue. She was trying to rip on me and bitch and complain, but was having a hard time not being nice. I eventually started helping her out with her crabbiness and everyone in the bar was laughing there asses off… The cute bartender is very flirty with me, but gives me what I call a “motherly vibe” always asking me if I’m ok like she wants to hug me or something brought my stuff right to my new seat before I even sat down. I have a feeling she doesn’t like to be asked out at work…she likes the flirting and attention, but like most good looking bartenders are always getting hit on and it bores them. Wasn’t trying to hook up with her was just testing the waters and the gates went up, but she seemed to be constantly watching me or around asking where I was going and stuff like that…Basically not her pre mone behavior twords me at all… so I continued to drink… Awhile goes by and this bar has ac vents that blow right down on you from the ceiling and tell her how my extremely small nipples are gonna poke through my shirt and shes like “wear more shirts” and I said “7 isn’t enough” and thats that or so I thought…later she comes back with a band-aid from her purse(only one) and says this is all I got to help you… So drunk me takes his shirt off to apply the band-aid and after I put it back on whisper out loud to her " you know what they say about guys with extremely small nipples don’t you?" “NO” she replies. “they have really small penises!”… she turned red, smiled, and squinted at me. **That brings me to my 2nd question to all you PUAs out there… I really rip on myself A LOT and usually about the important stuff like car, money,job, and nipple/penis size .** **IYO is this a no-no and if so,WHY???** The guys were less receptive of me … got the respect, but seemed to aggravate them unless I was talking to them directly and ignoring the 2 ladies. Getting all the attention from the only 2 women in the bar wasn’t going over well so I walked my drunk ass home! **Hit 5, 6,7, and 8** - 2 drops a314, SHINE2x 1 spray, IO 2x 1 spray… So I met my son and his crazy mom at a doctors appointment and I crept up behind him in the waiting room and scared the crap out of him. He laughed and called me sneaky-daddy the whole time at the doctors laughing histerically. Something was different with him and have been noticing this little look in his eyes when I got pheros on around him. Can’t explain it though, but when I see this look happiness fills my whole body. It’s like he’s looking into my soul with the kindest most innocent happy gaze and alls I know is this look makes me feel spectacular… Hit 6 is that all of sudden out of the blue he offers me a breathe mint(bad breathe???) and he goes into his moms purse grabs them out opens them and gives me 2. It was just out of the ordinary not odd, but there is a lot more to this story which makes it a big HIT under the circumstances…Hit 7 happened after the appointment I met up with a girl(21) for a lunch date and added two sprays ammo and 1 tuth to my existing mix. So we order or should I say I order. One thing about A314 is your expected to make decisions and if your not ready be ready for problems, because with this girl she is trying to please me so badly always sorry sorry sorry. If I ask her what she wants she looks at me blankly and I am talking on the lines of what to eat/do where to eat/go type decisions. Anyways the HOTT server comes up after we are done eating and asks if we want desert and I say “yes” and she opens the menu to the dessert portion while saying “here let me make it easier for you!” 😉 We order and are done so she brings me the bill and I push it across to my date and she looks at me puzzled. It was a look of why is she paying for him and then I smirked at her and some sort of light bulb went off and she smiled back and walked away. Then my date asks me what she should leave as a tip and I said “my number” without skipping a beat. She didn’t get angry/annoyed or anything just looked at me and then I told her “if you were her would you want my number as a tip?” and she said “yes” and I said I wouldn’t it’s her job to be nice to get MONEY tips not hit on. Then I made a stripper reference and we left… there were more hits when I met her roomate(21/f) but am bored with typing 😃 ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816/2 "2010-09-17T05:51:34Z")
Great post, very interesting reaction with the bank teller. In regards to your question about differing phero sigs IMO it would depend upon what your overall plan is and whether or not we’re talking people you see occasionally, or people you see every day. Like your work mix for example. If you are bucking for a promotion then you would create a mix for a particular signature there. You would not want to mess with that because it would logically make you seem a bit unpredictable, unreliable if you went from A314 one day to a real beta sig the next with may be too much social. The respect wouldn’t sink in. This is why I do all of my special testing, like solo testing a certain product when my ex is not around. I am trying to create a consistent phero sig that is congruent with who I am and working on being. Since I want her to trust me, then my sig needs to remain consistent. I won’t throw in IJ tomorrow for shits and giggles. Once the level of depth in bonding I want to achieve is achieved, I will ramp things up sexually again, but for now, its consistent. Now with the bank teller she may have felt comfort with you the first day and that gave her a bit of slight attraction. But the reaction to the come on baby sex vibe the next day would be similar to sitting in a bar laughing it up with a woman you met 1/2 hour ago and then all of a sudden leaning in and trying to kiss her and her screaming…woe, way too fast buddy. But she for all intents and purposes is just a passerby in life, so no harm no foul. You go in with a more comforting phero sig tomorrow. I think if you use the M3 model from Mystery Method when creating your mixes you can see the results you desire. I for one am working a similar model style with my EX. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 6:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816/3 "2010-09-17T06:02:27Z")
> [@](#): > > **That brings me to my 2nd question to all you PUAs out there… I really rip on myself A LOT and usually about the important stuff like car, money,job, and nipple/penis size .** **IYO is this a no-no and if so,WHY???** When you say rip, do you mean you put yourself down? Or you talk about this stuff a lot? Either way it’s bad and here’s why. If you are ripping on yourself, its one thing to make a joke ONCE because you’re comfortable with (fill in the blank). However, to continuously make belittling comments about whatever it is, or yourself shows that you truly are NOT comfortable with the situation, or yourself. Sean Stephenson who is a dwarf with some serious bone issues and pretty much lives in a wheel chair discussed this in an interview with David D. He will make a joke about his size or the chair, but to sort of talk about the elephant in the room, but he drops it from then on…because after that it becomes “pathetic.” #2 If you’re mentioning status stuff like having money, great car, big penis etc. This is approval seeking. Wealthy people don’t walk around talking about how wealthy they are etc. I recall a famous photographer getting tossed out on his ear in a fancy camera shop on Wilshire Blvd in LA because of the clothes he was wearing. They thought he was some tore up bum / hippy who couldn’t afford to shop there, when in fact he was mega rich. I used to hang with the son of a famous millionaire T. Cullen Davis back in the 80’s. This guy wore tennis shoes even my dad wouldn’t let me wear to do yard work with. People who are comfortable with themselves don’t mention the positives or the negatives, they just show up and be themselves. ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816/4 "2010-09-17T13:19:22Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > When you say rip, do you mean you put yourself down? Or you talk about this stuff a lot? **I just make jokes and I don’t sit there and ONLY talk about these things.Just when asked… For example, I didn’t have a car for the longest time(my choice) so when I was asked I wouldn’t lie but make fun of myself riding a bike in the rain**. > > Either way it’s bad and here’s why. > > If you are ripping on yourself, its one thing to make a joke ONCE because you’re comfortable with (fill in the blank). However, to continuously make belittling comments about whatever it is, or yourself shows that you truly are NOT comfortable with the situation, or yourself. > > People who are comfortable with themselves don’t mention the positives or the negatives, they just show up and be themselves. WHAT about comedians they make fun of themselves on and off stage it’s who they are??? To me as long as your jokes don’t flop or you don’t overdo it NO matter what you say ACTIONS speak louder than words. ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816/5 "2010-09-17T13:31:20Z")
> [@GorMas2020](#): > > WHAT about comedians they make fun of themselves on and off stage it’s who they are??? To me as long as your jokes don’t flop or you don’t overdo it NO matter what you say ACTIONS speak louder than words. True but the comedians are just trying to make people laugh. If they were just dissing themselves to people around them at a bar it might be different. that and they’re professionals of comedy… well some of them.. and they know how to interlace their jokes. Again I’d say if you did it comically and at the right moment it would be ok but I wouldn’t go overboard with it. And even if girls laugh that’s not ALWAYS the best thing if you’re trying to attract them sexually. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816/6 "2010-09-17T14:48:18Z")
A comedian is doing his job and is the center of attention (DHV) when they do that. A little self deprecating humor is fine once in a while if you sense the other person seems intimidated by you or if you feel you’re coming off as arrogant. It can de-asshole you and humanize your image. Otherwise it betrays your own negativity, insecurity and issues. Keep in mind some of the funniest comedians that joke about negative aspects of their lives have actually been very troubled and sad people in reality. ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816/7 "2010-09-17T14:52:07Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > A comedian is doing his job and is the center of attention (DHV) when they do that. A little self deprecating humor is fine once in a while if you sense the other person seems intimidated by you or if you feel you’re coming off as arrogant. It can de-asshole you and humanize your image. Otherwise it betrays your own negativity, insecurity and issues. Keep in mind some of the funniest comedians that joke about negative aspects of their lives have actually been very troubled and sad people in reality. agreed! and comedians are also doing it on stage, with all eyes on him, when people have already been laughing and are in the ‘laugh zone’… if i can coin a new term. You also have to remember that these comedians that do this are probably making fun of every other type of person, race and everything else… so often they have to make fun of themselves too. ---
**Author:** ![iSmellNice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ismellnice/32/1188_2.png) [@iSmellNice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iSmellNice)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816/8 "2010-09-17T15:20:42Z")
Regarding self-castigation: Conan O’Brien is probably one of the funniest guys on the planet because he’s always making fun of himself. BUT… it’s all within context. He’s a comedian and expected to make people laugh. If you do the same, then you’ll be seen as a comedian, an entertainer - and not much else. It does NOT get you laid (I presume this is your goal?). Making a self-deprecating joke is good when used ONE time, or only once in a while. I do this and it works pretty well, especially if the person seems closed off, reticent or confrontational. Do it casually and don’t really “mean” it, as if totally comfortable with it. When you appear confident (unbothered) by your perceived faults, it can be very attractive. It balances things out and creates more dimension to you. And don’t linger on the fault. Make the joke and go on to the next topic immediately. If you keep making self-deprecating comments, people will start to get the “oh no this guy is insecure” vibe. Kind of like telling a joke over and over again. It’s funny the first time, not so much the second time. By the third, people fidgety. Fourth time, you are history. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816/9 "2010-09-17T21:06:41Z")
> [@iSmellNice](#): > > Regarding self-castigation: > > Conan O’Brien is probably one of the funniest guys on the planet because he’s always making fun of himself. BUT… it’s all within context. He’s a comedian and expected to make people laugh. > > If you do the same, then you’ll be seen as a comedian, an entertainer - and not much else. It does NOT get you laid (I presume this is your goal?). > > Making a self-deprecating joke is good when used ONE time, or only once in a while. I do this and it works pretty well, especially if the person seems closed off, reticent or confrontational. > > Do it casually and don’t really “mean” it, as if totally comfortable with it. When you appear confident (unbothered) by your perceived faults, it can be very attractive. It balances things out and creates more dimension to you. And don’t linger on the fault. Make the joke and go on to the next topic immediately. > > If you keep making self-deprecating comments, people will start to get the “oh no this guy is insecure” vibe. Kind of like telling a joke over and over again. It’s funny the first time, not so much the second time. By the third, people fidgety. Fourth time, you are history. Very true…to sum it up. It’s okay to be humorous, but not a clown. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816/10 "2010-09-18T21:24:15Z")
I really just like to hear peoples ideas/opinions. Different perspectives help me in creating my own perspective. I had a feeling I would get these exact responses. The whole comedian thing was brought on by the fact that I just watched “Funny People” and wanted to keep the discussion going. I just wanna point out that PEOPLE don’t come with instruction manuals and it’s a numbers game that most PUA Masters will tell you. The more women/people you talk to the more dates/friends you will have no matter what strategy you implement. If I can’t be myself then do I really need to try and IMPRESS a certain person by being someone else or do I move on and find someone who likes me for my self deprecating humor???LMAO (which I usually do when I’m being very aggressive to balance things out). I don’t look at human interaction as something where if you do this then this is your result or don’t do this and make sure you do that. NOT EVERYONE is gonna like me and I’m ok with that. **I have enjoyed reading everyones opinion so far and do agree with you all. Playing devils advocate here a bit 😃 LMAO** ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816/11 "2010-09-18T21:34:18Z")
> [@thegentleman](#): > > Very true…to sum it up. It’s okay to be humorous, but not a clown. 😃 should probably cancel my clown costume and face paint order and stick with the mones then…LMAO ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-a-couple-qs-and-more-hits/41816/12 "2010-09-18T21:47:14Z")
I dunno, some women might have a circus fetish.