# Hits in a strip club were totally unbalanced. Why? (MX353 + MX297 + P131) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 24, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-in-a-strip-club-were-totally-unbalanced-why-mx353-mx297-p131/64716 "2015-07-24T15:44:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 3:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-in-a-strip-club-were-totally-unbalanced-why-mx353-mx297-p131/64716/1 "2015-07-24T15:44:04Z")
This Wednesday, I went to a strip club. Well, more like got dragged there by two of my friends. I broke a 16-month dry spell recently, and I’m still at the tail end of the high. So a strip club felt laughably redundant. Not to mention I hate the notion of paying to be teased. (Of course, paying to _not_ be teased is illegal in the US, and that’s whole other discussion topic.) But the strip club had free bar food and cheap drinks, so I said “eh, screw it!” and agreed to come along. Like any other red-blooded pheromone user, I saw it as a perfect opportunity to phero-bomb the girls working there and see how they react. I picked the application points strategically. Since most dancers press guys’ heads into their cleavage, or stand directly in front, my [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) should hit them right in their nose. I used the following: MX353 - 3 sprays on front of neck MX297 - 2 sprays on sides of neck, 1 each P131 - 2 sprays on temples, 1 each The resulting hits were… interesting. I got highly unbalanced reactions from different types of employees in the strip club, even though their jobs weren’t dramatically different. So here are my findings. **Self** Nothing I really noticed. **Friends** _Demographics: early 30’s, Caucasian (both of them)_ I think the -none in MX353 caused mild aggression in them, and MX297 didn’t buffer it at all. They started poking fun at me, and making stupid jokes, followed by laughing in unison. I did my best to treat their actions as a harmless nuisance, and react accordingly. That was mostly in the car. Inside they club, they were too focused on the dancers to worry about challenging my -none vibe. **Bouncer** _Demographics: early 30’s, African American_ He broke into a smile the second he saw me, and acted very friendly and even complimentary with me. In my experience, it’s quite uncommon to see a strip club bouncer acting like that. He even suggested good seats. I joked back in a friendly way, handed him the cover charge, and went inside. **Dancers** _Demographics: early 20’s to late 20’s, all ethnicities_ Since I got dragged to the strip club against my will, and don’t even like the idea of lap dances (unless my girlfriend gives me one), I just sat at my seat, and enjoyed the beers and the free food. The dancers were totally ghosting me. A smile is the most I’d get. Don’t get me wrong. I smiled. I was polite to them, like saying “excuse me” when trying to get past them. But for the most part, I was reacting to them the way most adults react to pigeons on city streets. Pretty much, ghosting them back. Only one dancer approached me specifically, and she was onstage when I sat there to get closer look at her (and tipped, obviously). I ended up politely declining the private dance. She’s the one who asked me: “What’s that cologne?” I told her it was an experimental product I can’t disclose, that I got as part of a research study. My non-pheromone-wearing friends, by contrast, were getting jumped on constantly. Each of them bought at least one dance. They knew I broke my dry spell, and laughed slightly at my lack of reaction to the dancers. **Shots girls** _Demographics: early 20’s, mostly Caucasian_ They were the total opposite of the dancers. The shots girls were targeting me constantly, even noticeably more than my friends. While selling their shots, they’d get really physical with me, by rubbing my arms, touching my back, side-hugging me, etc. My friends just got a hand on the shoulder with most of them. The shots girls seemed to have sweeter, more bubbly personalities than the dancers. I’m well aware it all could have been an act, but hey. The only reason I gave them a mild ghost treatment (like not making eye contact when they walked by), is because those shots are always weak, and I didn’t want to keep turning down girl after girl. No, actually, I did buy a shot once, from a girl who was rubbing her hair against me, and side-hugged me nicely enough to suspend disbelief that it was just hustling on her part. Or hopefully, actual P131 hits. I think I liked the shots girls better than the dancers. I felt like I had more leeway to flirt with them, mostly verbally, but also physically to a small extent. Or maybe because I like shots but don’t like lap dances. **Questions** The divide between the dancers and the shots girls was quite interesting. I wonder what caused it. Feel free to comment on anything you wish, but I have the following questions in particular. 1. Why did my friends react somewhat aggressively to the androstenone on me, while the bouncer (a job requiring some aggression by default) was very respectful? What stopped him from acting like a stereotypical bouncer? 2. Did the dancers somehow tell from my body language that I got laid recently, and would therefore be really difficult to sell a dance to? Are they seeking out guys who have not been recently laid? 3. Were the shots girl more bubbly by nature of their job, or were they responding better to me because I was responding better to them? Were my pheromones having any influence on their actions? 4. Counting only job-related reasons, why were the shots girls more personable than the dancers? After all, they’re only selling drinks, while the dancers are supposed to sell an illusion of intimacy. 5. How come my non-pheromone-wearing friends were getting reactions opposite of mine: strong attention from dancers, and only low-level flirting from shots girls? One meets girls easily; the other does not. **Future suggestions** I’m still not too keen on the tease factor of strip clubs, but those shots girls were just adorable. So I’m no longer opposed to going back to this particular club just to joke around and flirt with them. (And the free food, of course.) I’ll buy a shot or two, as not to be a time-waster. What pheromones would you recommend getting for that purpose? ---
**Author:** ![ScentHound](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scenthound/32/1840_2.png) [@ScentHound](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ScentHound)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-in-a-strip-club-were-totally-unbalanced-why-mx353-mx297-p131/64716/2 "2015-07-24T17:01:28Z")
My thoughts: I really feel [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) is a standalone product.. It feels like mixing anything in ruins it’s vibe (except maybe for a bit of TUTH, 2 sprays max and then I’d cover it with at least 3 sprays 297). MX353 is also very tricky since it’s easy to OD on. My sweet spot is 2 sprays but that’s personal and depends on how much none you already produce naturally. I also prefer MX353 as a standalone but it can be mixed with either 1 spray IG or 1 spray A314b without ruining its vibe. (Or you can go 3 sprays 353 + 3 sprays 314 for a VERY wild time!) I think you just overdid it, really.. Next time try simply wearing 2 sprays MX353 OR 3 sprays 297 and see if you don’t get some more consistent results 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-in-a-strip-club-were-totally-unbalanced-why-mx353-mx297-p131/64716/3 "2015-07-24T19:37:11Z")
I’d agree that the [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/)/MX353 is probably what’s unbalancing you - Both are effective standalone mixes in their own right and as well as 15mcg Androstenone, the 353 would have added 15mcg to the 297 - which could have tipped it out of synch. I don’t know P131 well enough to comment. Also 3 sprays 353 is @15mcg of None - Which is a fair amoun for evne the 297 to moderate. Its the sort of dose I can wear but a younger guy might find more difficult. Also this exterme ghosting, then sudden acceptance is something I’ve had from 353 as well (usually with A314 though) - the shots girls are in the thick of it with you and maybe already more tuned to immediate masculine presence - and I don’t know about US joints but shots sellers in UK clubs tend to be free with the kino - and are often on the receving end too - so again in a better position to respond to full-on None. Your friends - again, this sounds like a response to a cnfusing signature as much as anything. ---
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-in-a-strip-club-were-totally-unbalanced-why-mx353-mx297-p131/64716/4 "2015-07-24T23:03:53Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Also this exterme ghosting, then sudden acceptance is something I’ve had from 353 as well (usually with A314 though) - the shots girls are in the thick of it with you and maybe already more tuned to immediate masculine presence - and I don’t know about US joints but shots sellers in UK clubs tend to be free with the kino - and are often on the receving end too - so again in a better position to respond to full-on None.. In most strip clubs in the US, touching the girls working there, regardless of their job title, is strictly prohibited. (They can touch you, though.) Touching them will get you anything from being asked to leave to getting thrown out on the sidewalk. This particular strip club _technically_ doesn’t allow touching the girls, but as long as the touches are of friendly/flirty nature, as opposed to sexual (i.e. touching their hands or upper back, not breasts or buttocks), and you’re not acting creepy while doing it, it’s almost never enforced. So the shots girls get very kino-heavy with the customers, and are good sports about having men do the same to them. I’m aware that it’s all an act and a fantasy, but I think I played my part pretty well. Come to think of it, the girls’ reactions to me might have had to do with my own attitudes. I know I really enjoyed the playful touches and the fantasy flirting with the shots girls, where I get to play an active role. Much more than the notion of a largely passive experience of receiving a lap dance, with me just sitting there. Also, I might have been—without realizing it—harboring low-level resentment toward the dancers for them being professional \_ockteases. While the shots girls were, in my mind, positively viewed as drink vendors with a personal touch, hustling be damned. Both of them picked up on my attitude from my body language or something, and responded in kind. Or am I just projecting? What do you think? P.S.: Perhaps [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) and/or MX353 weren’t a good idea after all. But my intention wasn’t to look cool, or worse, try to pick up one of the girls. I just wanted to do a phero-bomb without worry about its consequences. But perhaps Ammo Summer might be just the ticket. Given the age of the girls working in that club, it should fit them well. And its soft vibe won’t work against me with people who are paid to be nice to me. As for P131, it’s supposed to induce touchy-feely behavior in your targets. It happened to me before. And apparently, again. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 1:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-in-a-strip-club-were-totally-unbalanced-why-mx353-mx297-p131/64716/5 "2015-07-25T13:05:50Z")
If you have some IG or A314 - Try that with your 353 the next time the status makes for a much better balanced mix but still expect a degree of OD at least till stings start to get messy. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-in-a-strip-club-were-totally-unbalanced-why-mx353-mx297-p131/64716/6 "2015-07-26T03:27:26Z")
I already have a little bit IG, and I guess A314 is still out of stock. I just might try IG. In fact, I might have been already wearing it. I put on 2 sprays that morning, because I had a meeting with a job recruiter. So I know I still had a residual amount of IG on; it might have already broken down by nighttime, or it might not. Either way, I ended up having a really fun night, even though I was aiming for the dancers, and got the shots girls instead. A314 will work well at glitzy high-end strip clubs—I don’t like them because they’re too stuffy—but not the one I went to. It was gritty and as unpretentious as a strip club gets. (Heck, it’s located in an industrial area, and lets you wear shorts.) So A314 might make _me_ look too stuffy, although the ladies there might find the vibe somewhat appealing. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hits-in-a-strip-club-were-totally-unbalanced-why-mx353-mx297-p131/64716/7 "2015-08-14T19:25:56Z")
Slap on whatever you want before going in, their job is to get your attention so you give them money. You only make it easier for them lol 😃