# Holidaying In The Philippines!!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 20, 2007, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627 "2007-12-20T20:37:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/21 "2007-12-31T17:53:14Z")

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The IG can give a protective vibration that some people find very comforting and attractive. Apparently your cousin is one such person.

You might have a talk with her when she’s sober. What you say will depend on what you know of her personality. I would suggest starting with something that emphasises the family relationship, like how glad you are to have a cousin like her. Perhaps a little mention of her good qualities, and a statement like - “If you weren’t such a close family member, I’d be tempted to …”

Hopefully, an approach like that will reassure her and inform her of your own inhibitions without coming off as a heartless rejection. I would take care to let her know you like her, and if any discussion of mistaken signals comes up I would suggest apologising and taking full responsibility for the misunderstanding so she doesn’t feel guilty or uncomfortable.

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**Author:** ![LizzieM](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lizziem/32/218_2.png) [@LizzieM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LizzieM)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/22 "2007-12-31T17:56:07Z")

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You look like an attractive guy, and while your behaviour will always play a role in what people reacts to you, if her reaction is out of character, it could very well be the [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/).

I’m female, and I can understand the attraction towards guys who appear unaffected, which makes me just want to chase them more. It could be that, and your Instant Gentleman may just enhance your attitude and character.

The pheromones may be at work, but since you mentioned about alcohol, that could have induced her to move towards something. If you think it is wrong, definitely tell her about it.

Good luck.

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**Author:** ![big\_filo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/big_filo/32/1137_2.png) [@big\_filo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/big_filo)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/23 "2008-01-01T15:42:36Z")

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Ok ppl… I talked to her and everything is cool now. She told me that she didn’t know why she felt that way about me, that she was very confused. This is giving me the idea that the phero’s caused this wreckage. My advice to you guys is that if you don’t want to end up like this… don’t use the phero’s around your family!!!

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**Author:** ![big\_filo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/big_filo/32/1137_2.png) [@big\_filo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/big_filo)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/24 "2008-01-01T15:45:02Z")

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Also I’d like to add that I’ll still be posting results of my endeavours in the Philippines with the instant gentleman…

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/25 "2008-01-01T17:47:31Z")

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Glad things worked out ok.

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**Author:** ![The\_GQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@The\_GQ](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_GQ)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2008, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/26 "2008-01-02T03:33:39Z")

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Thanks for posting such specific and detailed posts Big Filo, reps to you. I must say I think alcohol plays a factor in the actions of your cousin although I can see Instant Gentlemen playing in its part as well. I’m glad things worked out and cleared up. Thanks again for testing and reporting thoroughly on a product that not many tried out.

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2008, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/27 "2008-01-02T04:21:04Z")

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havent read the rest of the thread, but while i was out there, i ran thru CTTM very very fast.

You may want to go with oil based products like A314…I noticed you are built, so I dont think you want to wear -none, esp since they are very conservative and shy there. (compared to the west)

I wore CTTM- which I finished in 1 week (it would literally wear off in an hour) and TAA oil. and every so often I wore A314, but they didnt like it much as I already had authority (which is big there) over my class. It just made them even more timid.

my advice. TAA oil…it should work wonders.

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2008, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/28 "2008-01-02T04:24:33Z")

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Btw. where about are you? I stayed in Makati (green belt district)

I had soooo much fun. I hope you’ve hit up The Fort. cause if you haven’t oh boy are you missing out. 😃

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2008, 4:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/29 "2008-01-02T04:33:08Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> It’s pretty easy to get married in the Philippines. Here on Oahu there’s a thriving business in arranged marriages with Filipino women. Many of them will marry almost anyone to get to the states. I see lots of old White guys with really young Filipino women.r.

aw man, it is ULTRA common in the philippines, esp in Makati (business district). I saw it every day.

But if you go to The Fort (its like their version of sunset blvd) You’ll meet a lot of rich young people (per their standards), models, actresses, tourists.

I met a Half Filipina, Half Brazilian girl there. We must have hung out for 3 days straight. We even hit up her jacuzzi while it was pouring tropical warm rain.

aw the memories. :o

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2008, 7:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/30 "2008-01-02T07:39:26Z")

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> [@](#):
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> This is giving me the idea that the phero’s caused this wreckage. My advice to you guys is that if you don’t want to end up like this… don’t use the phero’s around your family!!!

A similar thing happened to me. I wore The Edge to a family wedding and a younger cousin I barely knew got drunk and was all over me. Pretty embarrassing especially since she did it in front of God and everyone at the reception. I’m guessing if I had grown up with her she probably wouldn’t have acted that way. I was basically a stranger to her. Next day she acted like nothing had happened. My GF was really pissed about the whole thing and blamed me.

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**Author:** ![big\_filo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/big_filo/32/1137_2.png) [@big\_filo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/big_filo)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/31 "2008-01-02T13:02:51Z")

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> [@examine](#):
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> Btw. where about are you? I stayed in Makati (green belt district)
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> I had soooo much fun. I hope you’ve hit up The Fort. cause if you haven’t oh boy are you missing out. 😃

Nah dude, I’m staying in Iligan right now… Although I stayed in Pasay City for a few days. I tried to explore the Mall of Asia while I was there… It is impossible to check out the whole place (its 19.5 hectares)… But I’m going to Manila fow a few days before I fly back to Oz, I’ll go check it out (I’ve heard so much about the Fort from family and friends!)

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2008, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/32 "2008-01-02T19:55:01Z")

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> [@big\_filo](#):
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> Nah dude, I’m staying in Iligan right now… Although I stayed in Pasay City for a few days. I tried to explore the Mall of Asia while I was there… It is impossible to check out the whole place (its 19.5 hectares)… But I’m going to Manila fow a few days before I fly back to Oz, I’ll go check it out (I’ve heard so much about the Fort from family and friends!)

Yea the mall of asia is HUGE. but it was too westernized for me. It was like shopping in the States.

Pasay is a cool city. Theres a shopping center there, and on the second floor theres a billiard spot called “The Elbow Room”

There were only 2 clubs at The Fort that I enjoyed. Prince Jaipuer (hiphop) and a HUGE techno spot to the left of it. I think it’s called The Fort actually. That’s the main club, every thing else are ‘side’ clubs.

Have fun dude, let us know how it goes.

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**Author:** ![big\_filo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/big_filo/32/1137_2.png) [@big\_filo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/big_filo)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/33 "2008-01-07T12:32:21Z")

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Ok guys…

I caught a ferry from Cagayan De Oro to Cebu. Lots of possible hits on this one so i thought i might try out some gentleman, because there were lots of girls and it was an 8.5hr trip (I wanted to kill the boredom, lol).  
Ferry departed at 9:00pm last night, at 9:30pm i sprayed my optimal dosage (2 sprays to the neck). I sat on my bed for about 15 minutes to let it dry down. After that, i decided to go to the bar (to listen to the live music). sitting down, this group of girls start looking at me and and talking to each other (about me, i assume). I didn’t think much of it at the time so i didn’t act upon it (I was too into the live music!). Noticed that there was a group of foreigners sitting at the table next to me. They started talking to me. I found out that they were from Canada and that they were in the Philippines for business. I got along really well with these guys although i was clearly a lot younger than they were (youngest guy was 35, the oldest was 43). I spent the rest of the night getting wasted on Red Horse beer with these men(note to self: lots of alcohol plus to motion of the waves is never a good combination).

What is your feedback on this report?

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/34 "2008-01-07T14:57:23Z")

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Filo, I think this may be an example of the “great for young men who want to seem older”. It is also likely that since they were there on business they were glad to meet someone who could bridge the culture gap as you so obviously have a good understanding of both Phillipines and the Commonwealth. Never count your own talents and personality for less than the pheros. IG may have given them a subconcious cue that you were “dependable” or “mature beyond your years”, but I would imagine that they were simply happy to meet a smart young man with ties to both east and west.  
Hey you get my 200th post! reps again and thank you for your great posts.

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**Author:** ![big\_filo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/big_filo/32/1137_2.png) [@big\_filo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/big_filo)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2008, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/35 "2008-01-11T17:48:44Z")

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Ok guys…

I think that the instant gentleman is working way too well for me in the Philippines than i can handle. I mean the girls coming left and right (three girls confessed the inner feelings they have towards me, they even wanted to take it to the next level 😉 😉 😉 , but i refused… I’m waiting until I’m married), one the Canadian businessmen i mentioned in my previous post, invited me to his daughter’s wedding!! not to mention the great sense of elation I have while wearing them.  
It is making this whole vacation here seem like some wonderful, six week long dream. Loving it? I was in the beginning, but I’m starting to get annoyed by the reactions I’m getting, kinda like a celebrity getting asked by a fan to sign an autograph for the 100 millionth time. i acknowledge the attention that im getting, but its starting to get a little too much for me.

I’m still going to use the phero’s for the remainder of my holiday (for scientific purposes, not many opportunities for testing scenarios like this… I’m doing it for the good of the forums!), but once i get home, I’m going to lay off the stuff for a while… to try to get my head back together.

Good luck you guys with your [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) endeavours. And I will be posting soon with more results!

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/36 "2008-01-12T02:43:32Z")

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Ok, if you’re up for a change try adding in the ammo, at one spray - no more. It will be buffered by the IG.

Tell us what happens and contrast it to the reactions you initially got with the ammo alone.

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**Author:** ![HERMINIO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@HERMINIO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HERMINIO)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/37 "2008-01-12T15:31:44Z")

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Hi Big Filo, you should used your confident looks. Going to a night spot you don’t have to wear any or all phero you have. What is needed is your bucks.  
Size up your self first and the enviroment where you are. Don’t end an ant with a sledge hammer.

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**Author:** ![big\_filo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/big_filo/32/1137_2.png) [@big\_filo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/big_filo)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/38 "2008-01-17T03:27:57Z")

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Ok guys…

I was with another girl last night (I’m with a different girl every night here in the Philippines). we were lying down on my bed (just talking ok!). Wearing the Gentleman as usual (this bottle lasts really long!!), we were chatting about stuff (“stuff”, so cliche… lol), when she motioned over to me and smelled my neck… I thought that i was busted or something, but she told me that i smelled like her father!😮  
I was like “Are you serious!?”, and she told that i seemed like her father, she didn’t know why, but i was giving of this fatherly aura (she didn’t say it exactly like that, it’s kinda a rough translation into English from Visayan).

Do you thnk that the Gentleman was put into play with this one? Or is this girl a freak?

Also, does Gentleman contain any androstenone? Because a couple of times, I would get no hits wearing the Gentleman (I’d then stop wearing it for a few days, then return to getting big hits again). Just wanted to know…

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 9:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/39 "2008-01-17T09:06:21Z")

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Androsterone tends to impart a mature fatherly air, sorta a peaceful alpha vibe. It’s great for work but I find it a bit stuffy for social and dating situations. Of course, it’s great for attracting young women with “daddy complexes.” Some guys dig it when their lover calls them “papa,” but I find it unnerving. I haven’t used instant gentleman, but isn’t it heavy with Androsterone?

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holidaying-in-the-philippines/7627/40 "2008-01-19T18:41:25Z")

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> [@big\_filo](#):
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> Ok guys…
> 
> I was with another girl last night (I’m with a different girl every night here in the Philippines). we were lying down on my bed (just talking ok!). Wearing the Gentleman as usual (this bottle lasts really long!!), we were chatting about stuff (“stuff”, so cliche… lol), when she motioned over to me and smelled my neck… I thought that i was busted or something, but she told me that i smelled like her father!😮  
> I was like “Are you serious!?”, and she told that i seemed like her father, she didn’t know why, but i was giving of this fatherly aura (she didn’t say it exactly like that, it’s kinda a rough translation into English from Visayan).
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> Do you thnk that the Gentleman was put into play with this one? Or is this girl a freak?
> 
> Also, does Gentleman contain any androstenone? Because a couple of times, I would get no hits wearing the Gentleman (I’d then stop wearing it for a few days, then return to getting big hits again). Just wanted to know…

Filo, I agree with gegogi’s point but let me add another or two. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) comes with the light neroli scent. Neroli and smells like it are common ingredients in many deodorants and fragrances (and balms, salves, and ointments). It reminds me of a shampoo marketed to teens back when I was one called “Gee…Your Hair Smells Terrific”. LOL. Everybody in my highschool smelled like Instant Marketing Hype. You could have literally smelled like her father without pheromones playing any role at all.

Instant Gentleman does not have -none. Of course androsterone could build up just as -none does and alter the effects you get. Would you recommend taking 2 days off from it a week or more?

Lastly, did you try GwtW’s suggestion to use a spray of ammo with your IG?

Your reports have been very informative and I think are giving us all a new look at IG, both the good and the bad. Thanks Again!!!

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