# Holy Moly Batman, to much instant openness **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 21, 2008, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holy-moly-batman-to-much-instant-openness/11638 "2008-04-21T22:50:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ponderu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ponderu/32/465_2.png) [@ponderu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ponderu)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holy-moly-batman-to-much-instant-openness/11638/1 "2008-04-21T22:50:20Z")
Ok I have been working my way up using instant openness and I was just not seeing results. I decided to dose myself up pretty heavy and wait to get clubbed up side the head so I could see it. 10 sprays instant openness regular strength and off to the store. I go to best buy all the time for one thing or another and I am friendly with just about everyone in the store. I went to the computer section and started asking for help on several issues. Pretty soon I had five people around me all talking over themselves trying to help me. Then the conversation changed to different games that were out and what was good.. skip forward 45 minutes everyone is still talking about just about anything, parties, games, boyfriends, girlfriends, just about anything to keep talking. I finally said I think I got what I need and three of them followed me to the register still talking. Well that was pretty direct.. I think I got a hit. Now off the the local bar to meet a friend from work. He is split from his wife and needed someone to talk to so I figured this would help him get things started. When I got there he had several people already with him. I sat down and just listened for a while, the mood brightened a little about thirty minutes after I got there with lots of jokes about EX wives. I know a few for some reason. Anyway, everyone was just talking away for about an hour after that. I said I needed to head out and get home. I would say it was a hit again because I did not know anyone other than my friend and everyone was talking to me. Now… for the HOLY MOLY BATMAN part. I went home and went to my computer cubby to go post this. On the way in I could see that my ex was on the phone and very manic, she told me her mom was on the phone and was also manic (her mom is also bi polar). I sat down, started up my laptop and in comes the ex. My cubby is quite small and only one way out… through the ex. She started talking 90 to nothing and just sped up. I had not showered and the instant openness started her engine and this woman can talk. I had no where to go. I finally managed to get out of the cubby about 45 minutes later, I told her I had to go to the bathroom and I took a shower while I was in there. Note to self: Never wear a lot of instant openness around a manic. Self effects unfortunately were none. Not sure why but all I felt like doing was listening? Ponderu ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holy-moly-batman-to-much-instant-openness/11638/2 "2008-04-21T23:12:05Z")
nice report ponderu… now try up the same thing but with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 🙂 You got the quantity of speech not try to see what will be the “quality” 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jayzee327](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc79bd/32.png) [@jayzee327](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayzee327)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holy-moly-batman-to-much-instant-openness/11638/3 "2008-04-21T23:13:31Z")
LOL. That’s a funny story. It sound like you should get IO in double strength next time so its easier on your wallet. I have yet to try IO. What’s your opinion of IH? ---
**Author:** ![ponderu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ponderu/32/465_2.png) [@ponderu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ponderu)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holy-moly-batman-to-much-instant-openness/11638/4 "2008-04-21T23:50:37Z")
> [@jayzee327](#): > > LOL. That’s a funny story. It sound like you should get Instant Openness in double strength next time so its easier on your wallet. I have yet to try IO. What’s your opinion of Instant Honesty? I have not tested that one yet, I am trying to be careful and keep them away from the EX so I do not cause her problems. I can only test on my days off and try to get home after she goes to bed. Ponderu ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holy-moly-batman-to-much-instant-openness/11638/5 "2008-04-22T00:08:12Z")
Great report 🙂 It seems that a lot more instant openness is needed for better results with older people. I get very good results at 2 to 3 sprays with friends or strangers around 20 year old. And anything more wont be too well, goofyness, longer response time, slower reactions etc ---
**Author:** ![ponderu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ponderu/32/465_2.png) [@ponderu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ponderu)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holy-moly-batman-to-much-instant-openness/11638/6 "2008-04-22T05:40:36Z")
> [@mockingbird](#): > > Great report 🙂 > > It seems that a lot more instant openness is needed for better results with older people. I get very good results at 2 to 3 sprays with friends or strangers around 20 year old. And anything more wont be too well, goofyness, longer response time, slower reactions etc I have been thinking about that since I made the post, all the areas I was in while wearing the mix were pretty bad for pheros. very open, with lots of ventilation until I got home. Wondering if I was just not wearing them to the right spot to see the reaction. Ponderu ---
**Author:** ![SoulCreator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soulcreator/32/236_2.png) [@SoulCreator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SoulCreator)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holy-moly-batman-to-much-instant-openness/11638/7 "2008-04-22T12:55:29Z")
10 sprays of instant openness! That could be really useful if that was the sort of effect you were looking for… I’m definitely going to have to try that one sometime. ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/holy-moly-batman-to-much-instant-openness/11638/8 "2008-04-22T14:45:35Z")
funny thing is i find when i use too much it seems to have less effect then when i use only 2-3 sprays, old saying less is more for myself, i sometimes try to OD and it does not work to effect i want