# hopeless newbie in NC **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [October 26, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008 "2008-10-26T15:27:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![olderdude57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@olderdude57](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/olderdude57)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/1 "2008-10-26T15:27:10Z")
I am new to this and I ordered last week Alpha A314 and IH, which has not shown up yet. I am hopelessly attracted to a married woman, I told her of my desires for her and she was flattered but wanted her marriage to work. Her comment was that her husband and my wife might not like that. Things were awkward for about a week and now things are back to normal with us taking coffee breaks together again. She always leans up against a railing next to me looking sooo sexy and when she smiles at me, I just melt. Am I miss reading her body language or am I so attracted to her that I see things? She is driving me crazy and I wonder if what I ordered will help her to maybe change her mind? ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/2 "2008-10-26T16:22:00Z")
> [@olderdude57](#): > > I am new to this and I ordered last week Alpha A314 and IH, which has not shown up yet. Hi there. 🙂 I just checked into your order. You placed it on Thursday after DHL picked up, so DHL picked it up Friday. It’s in your local DHL center to be delivered when they’re next open. They deliver on Monday through Friday only, so that’s why you didn’t get it yet. In case you didn’t get your email (make sure you “white list” [androticsdirect.com](http://androticsdirect.com)), I’ll copy and paste the tracking data below. Current status for 32051552713… Tracking history… Date and time Status Location Service Area 10/25/2008 8:30 am Arrived at DHL facility. Greensboro, NC 8:29 am Depart Facility Greensboro, NC 8:27 am Transit through DHL facility Greensboro, NC 6:14 am Depart Facility Wilmington, OH 3:24 am Processed at DHL Location. Wilmington, OH 3:17 am In transit. Wilmington, OH 3:00 am Transit through DHL facility Wilmington, OH 10/24/2008 8:04 pm Depart Facility Westchester, CA 7:52 pm Transit through DHL facility Westchester, CA 7:34 pm Depart Facility Santa Monica, CA 6:16 pm Processed at DHL Location. Santa Monica, CA 4:35 pm Shipment picked up Santa Monica, CA Shipment details… Help From To Shipment information Santa Monica, CA United States Ship date: 10/24/2008 Pieces: 1 ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/3 "2008-10-26T17:02:35Z")
Hello olderdude, welcome 🙂 From this thread i see that you are gonna receive the a314 and ih very soon! [hopeless newbie in NC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008) [Pheromones](https://a314.com/) probably won’t make here change her mind, since she has strong ethics values. But ih might help the connection and bring some good communication. Just remember that there are many more women for you out there, and that pheromones can help you 😉 Good luck and let us know how it goes! ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/4 "2008-10-26T17:10:08Z")
Welcome to the forum! Read the thread about what pheros can and cannot do over at the men’s forums. If this woman wants to respect her marriage, she will. Any other things you may want to accomplish with pheros, like work goals or social things? ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/5 "2008-10-26T19:36:09Z")
Hi, welcome to the forum. Considering that the woman has already made it clear that she’s not going down that road, you need to understand that pheromones will not make a person do something they’re unwilling to do. You could spray yourself with TUTH and she may get horny around you, but instead of jumping you, she will go home and take her feelings out on her husband. As Butterfly asks, do you have any goals other than that one? What is your personality type? Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Axxel1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/axxel1/32/1486_2.png) [@Axxel1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Axxel1)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/6 "2008-10-26T19:46:08Z")
You probably shouldn’t try to covet someone else’s wife. ---
**Author:** ![olderdude57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@olderdude57](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/olderdude57)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/7 "2008-10-26T20:40:23Z")
I get what ya’ll are saying but she makes a point of coming to me and getting besides me close enough to touch? She has touched me numerous times while we are talking? I guess I am just nuts or something. Thanks for all the comments ---
**Author:** ![Butterfly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/butterfly/32/1942_2.png) [@Butterfly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Butterfly)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/8 "2008-10-26T21:10:25Z")
Maybe she does not mean it the way you think.Maybe she likes you as a friend or colleague. Maybe she feels attracted but still does not want to betray her husband. What Robbie says is right, even if you make her horny, that does not mean she will sleep with you. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/9 "2008-10-26T21:39:34Z")
Pheromones (and your own desires) may be able to get you into trouble more easily than they can get you out. ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/10 "2008-10-26T22:18:51Z")
Some people are very “touchy/feely,” that doesn’t mean she is interested _in a sexual way_. If you asked her and she rebuffed you, that should say more than her putting her hand on your arm. I am curious, does she continue to touch you after you made your advance? ---
**Author:** ![olderdude57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@olderdude57](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/olderdude57)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/11 "2008-10-27T00:41:02Z")
Well like I said things were awkward for about a week and that was because of me, I guess my feelings were hurt. No, she has not touched me but still comes very close at breaks and smiles and melts me away. As for my personality, I am out going, strong willed and I am a proud LEO. I get along with almost anyone. This is so weird to me as I am married going on 26 years and have never ever done anything like this. I am a vendor at her work place and when I first saw her 10 months ago it was like the cartoon of cupid shooting an arrow, My heart pounds and I feel like I have butterflies in my stomach. I cherish every moment that I can spend with her, even if only coffee breaks. I guess I will take what I can get. ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/12 "2008-10-27T00:55:37Z")
Hello All I can say is she happy with her man? If not try [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). There are alot of (fish in the sea) and with some help of some Pheromones can help you get a better fish without the married thing going on. ---
**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/13 "2008-10-27T02:40:50Z")
Are you sure you want to do this? Putting pheros in the mix may enhance feelings she has for you, and may even break down her resistance, but it’s not a good long term solution. (IMO) You could end up fucking up her life and marriage for selfish reasons. If I were in your shoes, I’d be telling myself that if I truly cared for her, I would want her making a decision that big clear headed instead of a decision based on emotions enhanced chemically. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/14 "2008-10-27T03:06:35Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 Please read "what mones can do and what they cant do " the link is in my signature below. There is also a body language link to help you understand body language. I would have to say no mones wont make her change her mind or cheat on her husband unless she has that intention in the first place. Mones do not overcome a persons free will or ability to make rational decisions. Women especially out going ones tend to touch more and some of us are natural flirts. We are social creatures. If she is picking up on the fact that your into her she may be just getting a ego boost from it. Not that she is trying to do this to you, its just human nature. She has consciously made a decision to make her marriage work and unless something go’s wrong in that area she wont change her thinking just because you have mones on. The A314 may make her take you more seriously. IH will have her opening up about how she really feels and telling you personal info. She may even feel close to you but she will put you in the friends box because she has made up her ming about her husband. TUTH while it may make her aroused wont make her forget her morals or decision. Her husband may thank you for it though because by the time she gets home she will be worked up. Im sorry I wish I could give you better news but mones just dont work that way. However I do think you can benefit from them. If things dont work out with her hubby you will already have a edge. You can also use them to increase your social network and perhaps meet someone else you really are into. I suggest to go along with your A314 and IH some Ishine and AMMO for a sexy warm attractive vibe. Then get out there and meet some unattached people. Remember your having fun and if things dont end up working with her husband you can revisit that then if you want. Now lets get your qualified for your GC. How did you find Pherotalk ? Tell us about your personality and how your interact with others. Looking forward to your reply. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![olderdude57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@olderdude57](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/olderdude57)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 9:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/15 "2008-10-27T09:42:36Z")
Ok I really don’t want to break up hers or my marriage and this is what I told her. I believe that some time in ones life a person will come along and if you are lucky enough to cross paths, that person will strike you like a lightning bolt. The feelings that you have when you meet this person will defy all rhyme or reason, even if you love someone else. I believe this is that one woman in my lifetime, most people will not be lucky enough to cross paths. I told her that I so much desired to hold her in my arms, to kiss her , if only for a moment …or an evening. It took her a while to answer and if we are only to be friends then I will settle for that. ---
**Author:** ![Axxel1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/axxel1/32/1486_2.png) [@Axxel1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Axxel1)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/16 "2008-10-27T21:11:59Z")
sounds like you need pheromones for your own marriage. ---
**Author:** ![olderdude57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@olderdude57](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/olderdude57)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/17 "2008-11-11T03:24:56Z")
Ok, Here is a two week report. I have heard everyones advice and decided that we are friends, but it is very hard. After recieving my A314 and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) , I have been wearing it everyday. Here is what I have noticed from my friend; at first she was a little distant but by the 2nd day she was coming closer to talk. When we are talking to each other our eyes never leave one another. Last Thursday we talked during lunch and I know we talked for a solid 15 minutes and we never took our eyes off of each other! This is very hard on me as she has the most beautiful eyes. To me this is amazing and I want to try this somwhere else but do not get out very much. As for my wife in two weeks I do not notice any difference in the way she acts at all? The only comment she made was one day that the my deodorant was kinda strong? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/18 "2008-11-12T00:10:14Z")
Hmm Interesting report, I think she is feeling the effects but is still unsure what to do about it. If its meant to be that you should be together then you will just let it happen in its own time. Keep testing your mones out on her and developing that connection. As for your wife, she knows your natural mone signature, it takes longer to reprogram how they feel but her mentioning your deoderant is the first indication she is start to notice a new feeling or emotion being evoked in her by you. At first they try to place whats different or causing it. They never think its mones so dont worry about that. Then suddenly they except the new signals and react. **Your GC is on its way.** 😃 Still would like the anwser to those above questions I asked though, 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![olderdude57](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@olderdude57](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/olderdude57)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hopeless-newbie-in-nc/22008/19 "2008-11-18T02:52:22Z")
I have a question for Tisha, I am a vendor at the company where she works and they had some layoffs, bummer. She did not know if she might get axed so I went to her office and told her that I did not want ot lose contact with her if she was gone. She gave me her personal e-mail & cell number but would not give me a hug good by?? What does that mean?? Geez I realy wanted to hug her, anyway she did not get axed. But I am baffled at what she gave me, but no hug?