# How attractive are a person's looks? How much do they really matter? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 30, 2006, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629 "2006-08-30T03:37:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/41 "2006-09-01T13:33:24Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i’m willing to bet he obsesses over you. > when a guy thinks he got the recipe down and someone deep throws them for a loop, your all he can think about. i dumped a “hot” guy and he went to all my friends asking what my problem was. i said no problem here,lol. Yes, I think so…he calls me EVERY day…when I was in my last realtionship, he would repeatedly call and ask if my fiancee and I were still together…as soon as he found out that I am single again, he has been asking me out…he just can’t understand why I am not interested…😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 1:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/42 "2006-09-01T13:39:50Z")
> [@dolly](#): > > Yes, I think so…he calls me EVERY day…when I was in my last realtionship, he would repeatedly call and ask if my fiancee and I were still together…as soon as he found out that I am single again, he has been asking me out…he just can’t understand why I am not interested…😃 Some people who are used live by their looks and figures, are usually looking for validation. I did not generalise in my words above. When you did not give him that, it kept him wondering. Want to test it or end that chapter ?, give the validation for a week. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 1:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/43 "2006-09-01T13:45:45Z")
> [@Mak](#): > > Where is your adventerous self ?. > > I don’t back off, it is fun. i went ca-RAY-zee with the instant honesty yesterday at borders bookshop,lol. what cracked me up was the foyer… where i lingered for a few… must have had a cloud in it. as i was browzing the inside, everyone walking in and entering the foyer sneezed. it was hilarious. all i could think was, if this is indicative of them deeply inhaling IH, everyone around them that nite is going to be thinking WTH??? shut UP! …😮 i felt wonderful though… any other time,though, fun is the priority!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 1:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/44 "2006-09-01T13:51:53Z")
> [@Mak](#): > > Some people who are used live by their looks and figures, are usually looking for validation. I did not generalise in my words above. > > When you did not give him that, it kept him wondering. Want to test it or end that chapter ?, give the validation for a week. Oh, I know him well enough to KNOW what will happen if I give him any validation or encouragement…frankly I have “too many fish to fry” to worry about him and his petty insecurities… ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/45 "2006-09-01T13:55:14Z")
> [@Mak](#): > > Some people who are used live by their looks and figures, are usually looking for validation. I did not generalise in my words above. > > When you did not give him that, it kept him wondering. Want to test it or end that chapter ?, give the validation for a week. no doubt, mak. same with money. someone you know flashes/spreads it around, and you want to go out again, they think their money has you. it sucks but it actually turns me off of people with money,lol. spending it is fine,having it is fine, enjoying it is fine LOL **but the second you think it makes you more attractive** , your OUT. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/46 "2006-09-01T14:00:44Z")
Yes it is. I was trying this high quality product, nothing, so I up the sprays and later walk in this fashionable dept store .. 5 or so women at the cashier, some sneeze, some wave their hand infront of their faces, all turning to look at me, I look back and wink. I had a post before about sneezing when I put on any more pheros than normal. I believe the quality of product or carrier / scent did not do it, rather the active ingredient. The funnier thing ?, it never deterred the effect, as I’ve been followed by the sneezing party. Sneezing attraction ? ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/47 "2006-09-01T14:04:26Z")
> [@dolly](#): > > Oh, I know him well enough to KNOW what will happen if I give him any validation or encouragement…frankly I have “too many fish to fry” to worry about him and his petty insecurities… True. We know time is precious, ought to be used with precious people. ---
**Author:** ![Tommy\_Fever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Tommy\_Fever](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tommy_Fever)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/48 "2006-09-01T14:16:17Z")
i am an individual.i would not attempt to speak for the masses of my gender.what attracts me to a woman,hopefully is different than what attracts another male.even if it’s the same woman,we would more than likley have some of the same reasons and some different reasons for being attracted to her.what i judge as attractive may seem like charlie browns christmas tree to someone else.beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/49 "2006-09-01T15:56:32Z")
> [@Mak](#): > > Yes it is. > > I was trying this high quality product, nothing, so I up the sprays and later walk in this fashionable dept store .. 5 or so women at the cashier, some sneeze, some wave their hand infront of their faces, all turning to look at me, I look back and wink. > > I had a post before about sneezing when I put on any more pheros than normal. I believe the quality of product or carrier / scent did not do it, rather the active ingredient. > > The funnier thing ?, it never deterred the effect, as I’ve been followed by the sneezing party. Sneezing attraction ? i have to shop for bday toys. prolly target. im going to wear 2 sprays IO 2 sprays double strength IH 😃 ---
**Author:** ![thenoser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thenoser/32/2199_2.png) [@thenoser](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thenoser)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/50 "2006-09-01T16:14:19Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i have to shop for bday toys. > prolly target. > im going to wear 2 sprays Instant Openness > 2 sprays double strength Instant Honesty > 😃 lol, me too. i’ll call your ih, and raise you 2 drops of a314-mutant. i wish i had enough a314 to cover my car. i bet it would do wonders for parting today’s friday traffic before a 3 day weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/51 "2006-09-01T16:14:23Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i have to shop for bday toys. > prolly target. > im going to wear 2 sprays Instant Openness > 2 sprays double strength Instant Honesty > 😃 Courageous .. still Ail can do 6. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/52 "2006-09-01T23:06:14Z")
> [@thenoser](#): > > lol, me too. i’ll call your Instant Honesty, and raise you 2 drops of a314-mutant. > > i wish i had enough a314 to cover my car. i bet it would do wonders for parting today’s friday traffic before a 3 day weekend. hahahaha how did it go for YOU? i cannot even wait to have a female version of A314… anyway, target was interesting. better moods, including my own. dont feel especially gabby, think ive got a tolerance. everyone else was though. uh, even to eachother. next time, i need to get forceful with something. ha maybe i’ll just walk around wearing TUTH 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2006, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/53 "2006-09-01T23:09:24Z")
> [@Mak](#): > > Courageous .. still Ail can do 6. well, we pretty much walk around speaking as if we’re on IH ANYWAY…24/7. why would we care? lol 😉 😃 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2006, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/54 "2006-09-02T05:41:25Z")
I was not trying to put down older women by what I said. Older women can be very cool too! I was just stating what I see - looks do matter to people initially (some more some less) and that is pretty much universal. Sorry if that is generalising but that is the reality in the world around me. I myself am not the shallowest person and if a person meets a certain standard in looks and has a cool personality then why not. What’s wrong with being a little picky? And dont bash the messenger!!!😃 Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/55 "2006-09-02T15:54:34Z")
Some more random quick thoughts: I have heard from/read in a number of misc. sources that people, male and female, go through at least two “stages.” One is what might be called a “breeding” stage, where nature tries it’s beat to insure the continuation of the species (eg making babies). The second is the “raising” stage where the woman need support from others (eg other women and men) while tending to bringing the children to adulthood. It’s possible that during these stages, the way one person judges another is at least partially on an appearance basis. You look for the “physically healthy breeder/stud” in stage one. The you look for the more “emotional than physical supporter” in stage two. A bit of “what” someone is vs “who” someone is. As we don’t wear clear readable signs on our bodies that say “this is ‘who’ this person is” we have to go on the “readable” observable (physical etc, or at least based on the “standard” senses) signs, ie eg appearances/looks. It would be a relatively fast way to do a “go/no go” type judgement of the internal character of another person. Someone who looks like they crawled out of a garbage heap or fails to take care of themselves physically may communicate that they are less likely to support and care for you (emotianally), or take care of you (and your young) physically (as in protection, providing food, etc). Someone who keeps themselves in “perfect” shape may communicate that they are too tied up in themselves to care about someone else. Another “bad” choice. Of course it also comes down to how all parties interpret what they do and see. Breast size may be a big trigger for some, do little or nothing for another (this on could also be “stage” dependent). A perfectly trimmed beard may sway one, turn another off… And as for the “stages” themselves. Physical age and maturity may only be one factor of many that determines what stage you are in. I suspect mental maturity and just plain old life experiences play a part as well. Each relationship not only takes up time (age) but adds to the knowledge and insight pool you have. Experience counts. Today’s rant is over… ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/56 "2006-09-02T16:16:07Z")
.. Then I usually apply the Xray vision, to see what else is there behind the stunning look and healthy form. And it is done regardless of the reason, a life long relation, a day long one, or a 20 mins talk over drinks. It is a learning I acquired overtime, started by the repeated disappointment in how looks did not always lead to better things, so, I needed to look more. The other trick was, if I do not just Xray the stunners, but the (normal’s) as well, I end up with a much larger opportunities to choose from. That is what few comments above alluded to. None was in disagreement with yours, only that there is more to want. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2006, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/57 "2006-09-02T18:43:30Z")
I notice that I have certain particular traits that I am magnetically attracted to, and even to the point that I’ll “put up with” less than optimum personality if she has these particular traits. The traits I speak of are rare at best, so I don’t often have much to choose from when I find such a woman. However, being burned time and again has forced me to see that even these traits are not the end-all, be all of desirability. Since I allowed myself to experience women based on other factors, life has been much easier. Naturally, I want to find that one woman who has it all, but until she shows up, if she does, I have no problem enjoying women who do not have those particular physical traits, because they are not what makes the whole thing happiest. I also work with very attractive women a lot more than the average guy, and I have come to accept that looks are often a way to determine the shallow and egotistical types. It’s most impressive when I come across a stunner who is neither full of herself, nor insecure about herself. Calm self confidence on a stunner seems to be rare indeed, and it is like chumming the water to me. I can’t resist it. That said, the same self confidence will catch my attention and interest from an average looking woman, as well. I suppose for me, there are features I cannot stand, both physical and personality wise, but I’m pretty open minded about the rest. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2006, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/58 "2006-09-02T22:34:32Z")
i think attraction is _intent_ oriented. i see what it is i look for. pheromone related, i wear X hoping to see whatever… now you are hyper-sensitive to whatever. that doesnt negate the pheromone experience, but i really believe even a bad or nuetral experience with pheromones improves your love life/interaction with others because it forces you to notice how subtle things you do affect your company. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2006, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/59 "2006-09-02T22:36:36Z")
> [@](#): > > I suppose for me, there are features I cannot stand, both physical and personality wise, but I’m pretty open minded about the rest. :Phewww!:: ☹ i got worried… ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2006, 11:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629/60 "2006-09-02T23:40:20Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > :Phewww!:: ☹ > i got worried… Worried? About what? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-attractive-are-a-persons-looks-how-much-do-they-really-matter/629.md?page=2)