# How can there be a Raw Power test pack spray when Raw Power was an oil? **URL:** \ **Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\ **Created:** [February 18, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201 "2009-02-18T03:23:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![douche](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/douche/32/1144_2.png) [@douche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/douche)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/1 "2009-02-18T03:23:47Z")
Just a quick question…jas, steve, tisha, how can there be a raw power spray. it sounds like it’d just be like an updated instant jerk or something… ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/2 "2009-02-18T03:30:48Z")
[Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) is None and Copulins, the oil based Raw Power was just None in an oil carrier. A spray based Raw Power sounds more like a very heavy TUTH to me. You never know though, till people start trying and reporting on it! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![douche](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/douche/32/1144_2.png) [@douche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/douche)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/3 "2009-02-18T03:37:34Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > Instant Jerk is None and Copulins, the oil based Raw Power was just None in an oil carrier. A spray based Raw Power sounds more like a very heavy TUTH to me. > > You never know though, till people start trying and reporting on it! 🙂 i would consider instant jerk to be a heavy turn up the heat…but with cops. so…yeah. what i’m asking is how can there be a raw power test pack of spray, seeing as the original raw power was oil based. shouldn’t it be “turn up the heat test pack” if it is just a heavier tuth? ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/4 "2009-02-18T03:38:54Z")
> [@douche](#): > > i would consider instant jerk to be a heavy turn up the heat…but with cops. so…yeah. what i’m asking is how can there be a raw power test pack of spray, seeing as the original raw power was oil based. shouldn’t it be “turn up the heat test pack” if it is just a heavier tuth? There’s a [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) test pack? Where??? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![douche](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/douche/32/1144_2.png) [@douche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/douche)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/5 "2009-02-18T03:40:23Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > There’s a Raw Power test pack? Where??? 😮 it’s MX305-MX310 in the store ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/6 "2009-02-18T03:41:43Z")
> [@douche](#): > > i would consider instant jerk to be a heavy turn up the heat…but with cops. so…yeah. what i’m asking is how can there be a raw power test pack of spray, seeing as the original raw power was oil based. shouldn’t it be “turn up the heat test pack” if it is just a heavier tuth? No telling until people start trying and reporting on it. Could be something totally different. > [@mikotorocks714](#): > > There’s a Raw Power test pack? Where??? 😮 Available in the store now in limited quanities, to a select few, and for a short time only! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![douche](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/douche/32/1144_2.png) [@douche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/douche)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/7 "2009-02-18T03:43:13Z")
well i definitely ordered a set so once i receive it, i’ll start using and reporting ---
**Author:** ![MikeMan22](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeman22/32/332_2.png) [@MikeMan22](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MikeMan22)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/8 "2009-02-18T03:44:08Z")
I wonder if they are scented? ---
**Author:** ![douche](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/douche/32/1144_2.png) [@douche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/douche)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/9 "2009-02-18T03:44:58Z")
> [@MikeMan22](#): > > I wonder if they are scented? game scented ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/10 "2009-02-18T03:51:53Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > No telling until people start trying and reporting on it. Could be something totally different. > > Available in the store now in limited quanities, to a select few, and for a short time only! 😛 Ack! Thanks guys! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/11 "2009-02-18T05:45:17Z")
Ooooh man, i want to order that soooo badly right now. But must wait for reward points! Must…remember…i’m a… broke student! GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! ---
**Author:** ![TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tansri_dato_awesome/32/320_2.png) [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TanSri_Dato_aweSOME)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 10:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/12 "2009-02-18T10:26:04Z")
Douche, u said spray on the 1st post ? so is it alchohol based or oil ? Mr.Feel Good, Yeah i bet ur points is abundant, i always see u hit the intro section and help new user. Great Job, Kudos… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/13 "2009-02-18T14:39:48Z")
Sounds interesting… my guess is something 'none based with carriers to extend diffusion over a longer period than standard alchohol Irregardless… I’d love to try this but I have 'mones to keep me busy testing stuff out until the summer (when my mastercard might actually be paid off and I can afford to order again anyways lol - damn car repairs) ---
**Author:** ![douche](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/douche/32/1144_2.png) [@douche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/douche)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/14 "2009-02-18T16:43:53Z")
> [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](#): > > Douche, > > u said spray on the 1st post ? so is it alchohol based or oil ? > > Mr.Feel Good, > > Yeah i bet ur points is abundant, i always see u hit the intro section and help new user. Great Job, Kudos… 🙂 um i really don’t know. it was/is in the experimental mix section and not the oil based section…and its game scented. this would lead me to believe it is indeed a spray, probably alcohol with dpg or something. i’ll let ya know when i get it on my doorstep ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/15 "2009-02-18T17:41:35Z")
> [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](#): > > Mr.Feel Good, > > Yeah i bet ur points is abundant, i always see u hit the intro section and help new user. Great Job, Kudos… 🙂 I agreed on that in fact he get the most points there, lucky guy 😛😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/16 "2009-02-18T19:15:57Z")
> [@douche](#): > > Just a quick question…jas, steve, tisha, how can there be a raw power spray. it sounds like it’d just be like an updated instant jerk or something… We’re testing the version of androstenone which won our “Great Androstenone Experiment” as the new [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) spray. The one that won was androstenone with added TAF. That was easily the crowd favorite out of the original experiment. That’s what I can say right now about the Raw Power test pack. The other versions in the test pack some of the newer molecules along with that base. As always, the exact formula in contained in each bottle will not be initially revealed (blind). However, we’re open to revealing what’s in each one after get enough feedback. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/17 "2009-02-18T19:20:56Z")
> [@douche](#): > > um i really don’t know. it was/is in the experimental mix section and not the oil based section…and its game scented. this would lead me to believe it is indeed a spray, probably alcohol with dpg or something. i’ll let ya know when i get it on my doorstep It wasn’t supposed to be game fragranced. It’s supposed to smell like a raw, sweaty locker room. The natural scent that androstenone has on it’s own. Since most of our mixes are fragranced, there was a little error in communication. The intended spec is androstenone + very simple accessory [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) that aren’t intended to distract from the “raw power” effect (taf, etc.) + alcohol + very small amount of musk based diffusion package (which smells sort of similar to androstenone, btw). The idea is to make only small improvements, so we can keep it _Raaaaw!_, or even make it more raw. Refinement of the effect or an added cover scent (even 5% game) conflicts with the design goal. The current pack will be fine. It’ll be usable. It just won’t smell as unruly as it should. ---
**Author:** ![douche](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/douche/32/1144_2.png) [@douche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/douche)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 7:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/18 "2011-06-07T07:38:02Z")
Thank you very much for the info. I think I got a batch that kind of smelled like rose water mixed with game scent. it is strange, but i’ll smell them again and see if they indeed smell like rawness lol. -douche ---
**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/19 "2011-06-11T04:00:57Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > The idea is to make only small improvements, so we can keep it _Raaaaw!_, or even make it more raw. Refinement of the effect or an added cover scent (even 5% game) conflicts with the design goal. Sounds to me like you have a product name in mind. 😉😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201/20 "2011-06-13T17:57:34Z")
> [@Boudicca](#): > > Sounds to me like you have a product name in mind. 😉😃 This thread is 2 years old and [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) never materialized. Too bad since it was such a great product, but like many other users here I’ve been forced to discover another source for products like this. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-can-there-be-a-raw-power-test-pack-spray-when-raw-power-was-an-oil/26201.md?page=2)