# How do I get away from this stuff!?!? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 3, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691 "2009-03-03T06:12:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BFTE2005](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@BFTE2005](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BFTE2005)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/1 "2009-03-03T06:12:24Z")
Long story short, I’ve had awful experiences with pheros. All I want to do is get away from the stuff, however, it sticks like a plague to anything and everything. My bed, furniture, office, carpet, etc. all has remnants of the stuff. What can I do to wash it off and be rid of it? I’ve tried soap, household detergents, and nothing seems to work. This is creating such an awful effect in every facet of my life that I’ve thought of extreme measures such as moving to a new apartment and getting all new furniture. Any help is appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![future777](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/future777/32/2258_2.png) [@future777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/future777)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/2 "2009-03-03T06:13:36Z")
Whoa slow down there.. what happened? ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/3 "2009-03-03T06:21:27Z")
Hm, strange… ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/4 "2009-03-03T06:37:10Z")
Paranoia??? 😃 [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/8/8e304b3a2d2b3860257c6114f3122d5e3ab2c20a.jpeg "Twilight Zone intro.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y) ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/5 "2009-03-03T06:47:01Z")
_Turns to look behind._ Creepy… > [@castlerock](#): > > Paranoia??? 😃 > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y) ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/6 "2009-03-03T07:25:07Z")
First things first…get rid of all your pheros. You can mail them to me at: ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/7 "2009-03-03T08:45:29Z")
If you’re serious, one thing you can do is apply hydrogen peroxide. I’m having a hard time believing you are, though. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/8 "2009-03-03T11:35:36Z")
Hi BFTE Sorry to hear you’ve had problems, I presume we are still talking about your previous issues with A314. Now, unless you’ve left the lid off and it’s all evaporated or you’ve spilt the entire bottle on the carpet, it’s unlikely to be your clothes or furniture that are causing the problem. To be on the safe side, you can try washing the fabrics with Oxiclean, that should do the trick. Now, I don’t get none rage with A314, what I do find is that it can make me overconfident and, to a degree, less tolerant of other people in an arrogant, I’m better than you, way. I find this when it is combined with enhancers such as [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). Since becoming aware of the effect and realising that I am not superman, I have had no further problems. I would speculate that you are a little like me, more confident in yourself than you give yourself credit for and the A314 is tipping you ‘over the top’ Drop your A314 down to one drop and increase your socials a little, I think you will be pleasantly surprised by the results.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/9 "2009-03-03T13:12:42Z")
> [@diamond](#): > > …you can try washing the fabrics with Oxiclean, that should do the trick… Yes, Oxyclean works and is not as hard on the fabrics as bleach. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 2:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/10 "2009-03-03T14:08:44Z")
OK, first up you aren’t the first person to go through something like this. It actually happened to a really great guy on here named Smoothplayer. Here is a link to a thread that pretty much involved the whole forum going nuts trying to help him. > [@Problems with getting rid of Androstenone - help!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/problems-with-getting-rid-of-androstenone-help/1492): > > Okay, this really sucks. I got androstenone on some article of clothing, but I don’t know what it is. I’ve concluded that I’m unbelievably sensitive to androstenone. Trouble is I can’t smell it that well. It’s weird, sometimes I can smell it, sometimes I can’t. What’s more weird is when you walk around thinking you OD’d because people farther away are holding/rubbing their noses but people closer to you have no issues. Yesterday I did this\_ I put on 4 sprays of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) x2 all to … In the end, he decided it was more of a sort of panic attack than any sort of pheromone build up. I’ll try to find the thread where he talks about that and post it up. In the mean time just try to realize that these products just aren’t going to over run your environment like that. Yes, pack your [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) up in a rubbermaid container, yes wash your clothes in oxiclean, yes scrub your living space, yes get an ozonator to purify your air **if doing these things make you feel better**. In the end though it’s going to be your knowlege that these products are just tools, they can’t rule your life. Good luck and please feel free to post on how it’s going. We may tease a little like the “twilite zone” thing that was posted but we do care, and we do want to help. Hopefully just knowing that it’s happened before and everything worked out fine will help. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/11 "2009-03-03T14:41:32Z")
OK here is a very serious discussion Smoothplayer had after he went through the OD experience. There are some great posts in this thread and it deserves a read from everybody. > **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/its-all-your-head-1803.html)** > > Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life In his last post in the thread he give a link to another thread that sort of updates his situation and how he felt about pheromones after going through all that. > [@Life without mones, not that great as with...a rant..](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/life-without-mones-not-that-great-as-with-a-rant/2422): > > okay, this might be a little long but I figured I’d share. I’m wondering if anyone feels the same. I’ve been using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) for almost a year now. not all the time, but most of the time. This past week, I barely used any. I usually use androstenone in most of my uses, so basically I didn’t use any androstenone this past week. Anyway, I know some people say the differences with vs. without pheromones are slight. I used to think that way too, but I don’t really any more. I noticed a huge… I noticed while going through these that smooth’s rep points haven’t quite kept up with the contribution he makes here so guys n gals if the spirit moves you hit him with a few. Long story short BFTE, don’t panic, what seems to be happening to you happened to one of the best guys on here and if you are wondering yes he still posts every few weeks. I for one always look forward to what he has to say. ---
**Author:** ![BFTE2005](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@BFTE2005](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BFTE2005)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 8:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/12 "2009-03-04T08:17:24Z")
Any special techniques to get it out of my mattress/pillows besides buying new? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 8:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/13 "2009-03-04T08:18:44Z")
> [@BFTE2005](#): > > Any special techniques to get it out of my mattress/pillows besides buying new? I’m confused? Did you pour the bottle on the bed or something? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 11:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/14 "2009-03-04T11:45:06Z")
I am confused as well because mones do not hang around that long unless you spraying them right on the fabric. How did they get on the mattress ? You mentioned you had a bad experience with them can you elaborate on this ? What mones are you using ? How much did you use ? Where did you apply them ? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tansri_dato_awesome/32/320_2.png) [@TanSri\_Dato\_aweSOME](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TanSri_Dato_aweSOME)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/15 "2009-03-04T19:18:03Z")
hmmm.. real confusing. ---
**Author:** ![overlord](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/overlord/32/2387_2.png) [@overlord](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/overlord)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/16 "2009-03-04T20:41:54Z")
Hi BFTE2005, how are you doing now? Has your situation gotten any better? We’re all a bit confused from your situation right now since we haven’t had such a reaction from anyone before. Please bear in mind that pheromones are chemicals, they don’t spread on their own and they don’t reproduce or become more in any way. In fact they usually wear of in about 4-7 hours, so at this time (after whatever happened) they are already gone. Maybe you are still smelling something but that’s only the cologne that’s in the mix, just a scent, no pheromones. Also, pheromones are just a small part of someone’s perception of the world. They can make things a bit more interesting but they cannot really radically change a life or take control of your life. They generally make things you already could do just a bit easier (asking a girl out, have a nice conversation with a stranger) And finally, even if they are still present in your environment and you can’t get rid of them (hypothetically) your body automatically adjusts to continues (or near continues) pheromone signals after a few days. It effectively cancels out any effect from the pheromones. That’s why we don’t feel the self effects from pheromones we use daily anymore after a while. I hope this assures you and please let us hear from you, we are all concerned and we’d like to help you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/17 "2009-03-04T23:01:55Z")
I don’t like to say that I think the poster is lying here, or whatnot. However, I think that maybe he’s just having _general_ problems in his life and is using his knowledge of what the bad sides of -none/pheromones can do to blame his problems on. In other words, he might be using this as an escape goat, but I may be wrong and it’ll be not right of me to not believe him BUT I highly doubt pheromones can be as harsh as how he’s trying to make them look like. Something is up, but I DOUBT that it’s the pheromones causing hell on earth. ---
**Author:** ![overlord](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/overlord/32/2387_2.png) [@overlord](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/overlord)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/18 "2009-03-04T23:17:53Z")
Hmm I think the original poster was in panic or had a bit of chaos in his mind at the time he was posting yes. But it could be that he was misinformed, I don’t want to judge. I’d like to be supportive, so if he’s reading this: please let us hear from you, tell us how you are doing now ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/19 "2009-03-05T00:27:20Z")
Yes, give us more information. We _care_ about the users on here, as I’m one my self so if you post back with a detailed message regarding what happened that would REALLY be helpful for us in order to help you back. > [@overlord](#): > > Hmm I think the original poster was in panic or had a bit of chaos in his mind at the time he was posting yes. But it could be that he was misinformed, I don’t want to judge. > I’d like to be supportive, so if he’s reading this: please let us hear from you, tell us how you are doing now ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691/20 "2009-03-05T01:25:32Z")
Ok I am home from work. I didn’t have time this morning to address this fully. I am not even sure if the mones your using are from here. If they are then you need to understand a few things… Unless you sprayed your mones on the mattress or bed they should not be on there. They only last 4 to 6 hours and anone build up takes months of daily use to get a significant amount of residue to transfer on anything else. Now I am not saying your paranoid or lying or anything like that. I will list some information for you to read so you have a better understanding of why you may be having this reaction. > [@Super Smellers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/super-smellers/28): > > Doesn’t amaze you when your wearing a mix one day, and it doesn’t seem to be affecting anyone, and then one person picks up on it? I wonder about these super smellers; what they’re like as people and what they’re most likely to be occuptation wise, personality wise, etc in our society. Are they sensitive, etc, because their smell allows them to pick up on fear, sorrow, happiness, or general senses about a person? Does this mean they are more likely to be a social worker than the corporate boss… Pay close attention to the posts by MHarris he is the maker of mixes and is brilliant with mones as well as all things scientific … (dont let it go to your head Michael 😛 ) LOL > [@](#): > > **BY MHarris** The brain & scent are really weird. > > Scent is one of the primary senses we develop. It’s a “chemical sense”. Every one of our has a sense of smell & taste, in a way. Your cells never would’ve bootstrapped themselves from a zygote into the full 40+ trillion gestalt called you without their individual chemical senses. > > So they’re strong. Smell is an intricate part of every single one of us. > > At the same time, there’s so much that’s no understood about our chemical senses. For instance, there’s this way that two chemicals each smell differently on their own, but when combined, **they make a phantom “third scent” that appears only in our minds.** Sort of like the equivalent of binaural beats in audio. Now if you are using Androtics mones its not likely they are lingering this long. The neroli scent prevents it from fixing to your skin for long. > [@](#): > > **By Mharris** The worst thing on earth is having a pheromone linger on the skin. That’s not why you’re wearing them, after all. You want those little molecules to get out there and project. > [@](#): > > **By MHarris** Also be aware that people around will they’ll quickly become anosmic / insensitive (what some call “nose blind”) to some components of the light Neroli scent. You should truly offend no one with it. > > In fact, the scent of some pheromones themselves would is far more unpleasant to most people than our light Neroli scent. **That’s what one of the many issues our light scent package was designed to correct.** Now lets cover some factors as to why this may be occurring to you… Everyone has natural bacteria on there skin all the time. Its called coryneform bacteria. Its what converts sweat and mones into BO. To be sure you dont have a over abundance of this use anti bacterial soap in the shower everyday. It could be a conversion issue. Next to remove any mones from your skin that have built up over time you can use witch hazel or peroxide on a cotton ball. Wash cloths in oxyclean or any oxidizing detergent For carpets or mattresses which you really should not be having a problem with unless you had a spill use [Nature’s Miracle - Product Template](http://www.naturemakesitwork.com/catalog/prod_detail.php?id=60) Its sold in most pet stores like petco and its awesome for removing stains and scents. From skunk to mildew it gets the job done. I have spilled a bottle of mones on the carpet in my room and this took the smell out over night. There are enzymes in it which break down the molecules and destroy them leaving behind a fresh natural scent. That should do it… The questions I asked in my above post will help us, help you determine if its a phantom scent which can occur to those overly worried about the scent or if you are indeed a super smeller like MH has suggested some can be. Hope this helps Tisha [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-get-away-from-this-stuff/26691.md?page=2)