# How do self effects work? **URL:** \ **Category:** A314 Insider's Club\ **Created:** [September 3, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-self-effects-work/41320 "2010-09-03T00:24:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-self-effects-work/41320/1 "2010-09-03T00:24:35Z")
It doesn’t make sense to me yet why do you get different effects from the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) then the people close to you? Please explain ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-self-effects-work/41320/2 "2010-09-03T02:05:27Z")
Because they’re used to your signature. That’s why. Its akin to you being a sweetheart, then overnight, acting like a jerkoff, your parents/friends/family would know something is off with you. But if you go from that to the jerkoff in a matter of a year or 6 months, then it seems more believable. Get it? Good. ---
**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-self-effects-work/41320/3 "2010-09-03T02:15:34Z")
huh? I meant ppl in proximity not getting the self effects 😕 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-self-effects-work/41320/4 "2010-09-03T03:30:22Z")
I think what he means is why do people respond to YOU wearing A314 as though an alpha male is present and you don’t even though it’s not REALLY your signal. I put on A314 and I feel a little more confident (possibly placebo, possibly self effect) and a little less tolerant of BS. But I don’t naturally produce pheromones in the quanity and ratio of A314 so you would think logically my brain would accept it as a foreign signal and respond not as if I was an alpha male, but that an alpha male was nearby and I just can’t see him. At least that’s how I read the post. Here’s my theory and bear in mind it’s only that, more experienced people like Tish or serious behind the scenes science guys like MHarris could either confirm this or tell you my head is directly up my ass. Anyway here goes I think it has to do with an interaction of sorts between the conscious and subconscious. My conscious mind KNOWS I’m applying pheromones, so when the mones are inhaled by me, my instinctive subconsious says “hey I smell an alpha male nearby” but my conscious mind says to the subconscious “hey bro, it’s me giving off that vibe so chill” So then my subconscious says “ohhhhh…cool, let’s go get some action then” Now other people get exposed to my cloud when I come around, but they were not recieving those chemical signals until I came by sporting my phero’s (which they do not know about" since they (in all likelihood) have not applied pheromones, they know it’s not them so no conscious/subconscious dialogue like that…they haven’t been sensing that vibe all day no matter who they’re around or where they are so they KNOW it’s not themselves. I think conscious knowledge is really the key to self effect…or even other effects. It’s like that choad that made a video on youtube spraying himself with just straight TuTH (a bad choice anyway) then went around TELLING women he was wearing pheromones and asking them if they were getting turned on. First off straight unbuffered TuTH would be a bad choice for cold approach pickup anyway, but the point of phero’s is to communicate something about yourself to other people on an instinctive and subconscious level. By TELLING them that whatever feelings they might be experiencing regarding him are artificial he’s killing the vibe and the conscious tells the subconscious “ohhhh he’s not really a sexual monster, he’s just a choad trying to smell like one…vagina dry now” ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-self-effects-work/41320/5 "2010-09-03T13:33:23Z")
Radman, I like your self conversation. That’s pretty cool. Ok I want to add something. There is a post on here by a lady that uses A314. Guess what, when she puts it on her neck she ends up looking behind her for the alpha male that senses. She does get some self effects also. I have a female coworker that wears a314. She gets some self effects, but not to the degree that I get. Something about it is telling her that it’s not really her. However I do believe that A314 is also absorbed by your skin and your brain may receive some communication from it that way as well. Ok so here is my answer to your question. Why do people get different effects from your natural pheromones then you do? Why can people smell a cologne on you hours later when you can’t smell it anymore? The brain is an amazing tool capable of picking up on the slightest changes. Most of these details are filtered by the old brain. If there is a scent of any kind on your skin, then you know it’s emanating from you and other people know that it’s coming from you too. It’s the same with pheromones. Your body can tell by the proximity and strength where the mones are coming from. That’s my theory anyway. I also agree with Radman in the sense that I always put mones on when I am by myself. I know the mones are coming from anywhere else. ---
**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-self-effects-work/41320/6 "2010-09-03T19:03:18Z")
Thats exactly wat I wanted 2 know thx guys ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 5:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-self-effects-work/41320/7 "2010-09-06T05:11:29Z")
What I always wondered was if A314 make other men respect you, then smelling it on yourself… I guess the self effect is you respecting yourself. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-self-effects-work/41320/8 "2010-09-07T01:01:03Z")
What I always wondered is the fact that Rone is produced in the liver and excreted through the urine. Which I suppose is understandable when you consider that as men age they not only produce more rone but quite possible…leak more. Hence the signal indicating age. But how much can you respect a man that wets himself? ---
**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-self-effects-work/41320/9 "2010-09-07T01:02:24Z")
u have an intresting way of thinking lmao